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Old 08-July-2009, 05:40 AM
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keep in mind that size is relative and that by smaller i also mean bigger.
would it not stand to reason that our universe is but a singularity. That is, inside the event horizon of a black hole, that infinite singularity chains exist linking each universe to a corresponding location in another dimension of space time, a continuum of cascading space time relativities. Material example: A small bucket with holes draining into a larger bucket with holes draining into yet a larger bucket with holes with the size of the holes remaining constant. The holes representing a singularity both consuming matter in our universe and expelling it into another and the top of the bucket representing the infinite existing "smaller" unviverses, a spatial singularity incomprehensible from inside the bucket, which may be why we cannot measure nor truly comprehend the size of the universe because there is no size to measure just lack thereof. black holes are represented by the internal portion of the holes consuming (matter and energy) from the bucket(universe) we exist in but not being able to expell it, and a white hole represented by the external portion expelling water into the next bucket but not being able to consume it simultaniously.
time always passes forward, as would explain why matter cannot cross back across either event horizon.

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Old 08-July-2009, 07:41 AM
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Then a comment on your post. What exactly do you mean by singularity? What do you mean with "inside the event horizon of a black hole, that infinite singularity chains exist?

It has been proposed before on this board that the universe is a black hole, you might want to search for these discussions using the search tool at the top of this page.
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i think he means "i'm in high school or college and am questioning everything and taking it to absurd extremes because that's what i was taught to do in this one class this one time".
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would it not stand to reason that our universe is but a singularity. That is, inside the event horizon of a black hole, that infinite singularity chains exist linking each universe to a corresponding location in another dimension of space time
As tusenfem asked, what do you mean by the word singularity?

Also, what physical quantity is it that is singular?
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What is a space time relativity?
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Old 08-July-2009, 07:48 PM
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A singularity is a division by zero. The singularity in a black hole is when volume goes to zero.

What is getting divided by zero?
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keep in mind that size is relative and that by smaller i also mean bigger.
would it not stand to reason that our universe is but a singularity. That is, inside the event horizon of a black hole, that infinite singularity chains exist linking each universe to a corresponding location in another dimension of space time, a continuum of cascading space time relativities. Material example: A small bucket with holes draining into a larger bucket with holes draining into yet a larger bucket with holes with the size of the holes remaining constant. The holes representing a singularity both consuming matter in our universe and expelling it into another and the top of the bucket representing the infinite existing "smaller" unviverses, a spatial singularity incomprehensible from inside the bucket, which may be why we cannot measure nor truly comprehend the size of the universe because there is no size to measure just lack thereof. black holes are represented by the internal portion of the holes consuming (matter and energy) from the bucket(universe) we exist in but not being able to expell it, and a white hole represented by the external portion expelling water into the next bucket but not being able to consume it simultaniously.
time always passes forward, as would explain why matter cannot cross back across either event horizon.

I will submit more as feedback is taken into account
A singularity is a point in spacetime where the known laws of physics break down. A singularity is predicted to exist at the center of a black hole, where infinite gravitational forces compress the infalling mass of a collapsing star to infinite density. These are just mathematical singularities resulting from a division by zero most probably, and do not exist physically. According to the Big Bang model of the origin of the universe, the expansion of the universe began from a singularity. Singularity here means very small, yet not zero.

Our universe is not a singularity, it most probably originated from something closely resembling a singularity.

Wormholes are hypothetical, they need black hole - white hole pairs from the Schwarzschild solution. We have never detected a white hole.

Our universe has at least 1023 stars. There are many candidates for black holes among these.

Hawking radiation, however, postulates that black holes "leak", so that they will eventually evaporate.
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keep in mind that size is relative and that by smaller i also mean bigger.
would it not stand to reason that our universe is but a singularity. That is, inside the event horizon of a black hole, that infinite singularity chains exist linking each universe to a corresponding location in another dimension of space time, a continuum of cascading space time relativities. Material example: A small bucket with holes draining into a larger bucket with holes draining into yet a larger bucket with holes with the size of the holes remaining constant. The holes representing a singularity both consuming matter in our universe and expelling it into another and the top of the bucket representing the infinite existing "smaller" unviverses, a spatial singularity incomprehensible from inside the bucket, which may be why we cannot measure nor truly comprehend the size of the universe because there is no size to measure just lack thereof. black holes are represented by the internal portion of the holes consuming (matter and energy) from the bucket(universe) we exist in but not being able to expell it, and a white hole represented by the external portion expelling water into the next bucket but not being able to consume it simultaniously.
time always passes forward, as would explain why matter cannot cross back across either event horizon.

I will submit more as feedback is taken into account
Welcome to BAUT Joshua! Nice name, my son's name is Joshua.

As it has been pointed out the concept of "is our universe inside a black hole" has been address a number of times before.

I have a few questions for you to ponder over.

With your idea I would ask where the "white holes" exist within our universe?

What type of topology would you expect inside a black hole's event horizon and and does this match with what we see when we look at our universe?

What is your definition of a singularity?
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Old 10-July-2009, 10:33 AM
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I acknowlede that the universe being a inside a black hole has been addressed on this board. However this is not the point i am trying to make.
My specualtion is that beyond the event horizon of a black hole(s) are "infinite" linked Quasi-universes(with similar black holes), similar, but not identical to our own. Similar in the ways of all forces acting upon eachother much the same as our own, but different in the way that at least one of the dimensions is partially or fully different, such as time passing slower or faster(or not at all), or even that it exists in another time(past or future).(not limited to time it's just for example) which does not allow material in our universe to pass said horizon and return to existence in our universe.
I'm getting tired, and in short I am speculating that,
Black holes are temporal "tears"(it eats me to put it that way) in space and time allowing matter of all sorts to pass into an alternate space and time.
A bubble inside of a bubble inside of a bubble, in order to get the bubble from the middle you would have to oblviate the outer bubbles to allow it free movement in open air(our universe). You cannot create the bubbles around the middle bubble yet you can create the bubble in the pre-existing bubbles.
I hope this has given my point a little more clarity to those of you who did not comprehend my earlier wordings.
(i will address all that is asked about my theory)
And as for the statement that i am probably in highschool or college, I am not, I am however a highschool dropout 19 years of age with the intelligence quotient of 156 and belong to the 99th percentile for mathematical comprehension overall Canada. (I left school because i could not stand the ignorance of people who "knew" things even when faced with and equally plausable and supported theory as their own knowledge.)

Einstein once said "To maintain the creativity of a child is the secret of ingenious thinking"
"Before questioning someone else's knowledge always question ones own"
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