In a flash of inspiration i stumbled upon an idea that unifies quantum mechanics with gravity and also explains things like dark matter

This Realy could be it ! (greatly simplified )

1 Imagine a greater universe inhabited by membranes floating around
2 each membrane is inhabited by a particular type of stringlet
3 As with chemistry some some elements reacts some done (think lock and key)

this means each membrane has its own laws of physics that may or may not react with others

consider our universe as being constructed of 3 membranes each with different laws (of bonding)

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the green membrane represents quantum mechanics
the blue represents Einsteins gravity laws
the red membrane can talk to both allowing the green and blue to interact INDIRECTLY

we may not be seeing just one set of laws in our observable universe but several joined at the hip

if the ratios of stringlets on each membrane did not match the excess could be observed as dark energy & dark matter (as bonded stringlets bumped into unbonded stringlets on their home membrane )

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Thankyou for the advice. I will do my best to stick to forum rules.

I look forward to discussing this theory

Hi Teslacoil, welcome to BAUT!

One of the rules here is you are not allowed to substantially change your post later (revisionism). Fixing a typo is fine, but changing a post from essentially just containing a picture, to what it is now, might fall under that rule. Since you're new here, I hope you don't mind this explanation. Normally I would need to click the icon to bring this to moderators attention, and ask them to respond. But since nobody responded to the OP (original post[er]) yet, no harm done, I guess.

BTW, the picture that was there earlier now seems to be missing.

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ive added the missing picture

I apologize for any inconvenience Im not used to posts being modded in minutes.
I will make sure my future posts are up together and double checked before hitting the SEND button

First, welcome to BAUT.

Next comes standard question 1: What falsifiable predictions does your formulation make? From your description, it is not entirely obvious that there are any, but you have thought about this longer than I have. Are you able to make predictions that current models cannot, or is your viewpoint just that -- a way of thinking about how things work?

still don't see the picture or the thumbnail. I use the "preview" option in the advanced editor all the time. Now that slang put me on to LaTeX I might use it less but still...it will be used

This image?

http://www.bautforum.com/attachments...embranes3.jpeg

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No apology necessary! It was just a reminder, if I thought it was really bad I would have let a moderator know. It's not a problem to change a post, but if you need to, make sure you don't remove stuff, and add a note describing what you changed. (The [s] and [/s] tags can be useful )

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Welcome aboard, TESLACOIL.

I read this two or three times before I worked out that you probably meant to say:

"3 As with chemistry some elements react, some don't"

If so, you might want to change it in the OP. (As slang pointed out, small changes for clarity are generally acceptable.)

I have to say, this is one of the very few ATM ideas that I've found intriguing, perhaps because it sounds a bit like some mainstream theories! Even if it doesn't get much evidence to support it, it would make a nice scenario for a science fiction story. (I mean that in a good way!)

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First of all, hi TESLACOIL, and welcome to the BAUT. I hope you'll enjoy your stay.

I just want to say, even though this might sound very negative of me, that there have been several scientists in the past, some of them very skilled indeed, that have tried for a ToE. It's not an easy process, and I don't think we have enough data yet to be sure; so the evidence required will be rather high.

I'm just saying this so you don't get your hopes up. This is something big you're positing, and as such, a rigorous debate about your idea could stretch on for quite a while, even if you've actually got something. I encourage you to argue your points and be willing to accept other people's points, as you very well might learn something in the process, but just keep in mind that you won't be convincing anyone overnight.

I'd also like to add that there's a quote, which more of applies to Quantum Mechanics: If you aren't arguing with mathematics, you aren't arguing Quantum Mechanics. For a ToE to work, it would have to have mathematical justification, I'd think.

Just a heads up, so you don't immediately get frustrated or anything like some other ATMers have.

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I hope someone with greater knowledge takes an interest in my idea.

I was truly gobsmacked by its implications (felt i had to post it before i got run over by a bus) sorry for the rush job

what follows is greatly simplified....its more a philosophy than a set of equations

we know that equation A does not fit with equation B but as our universe does exist there must be an equation C that forms the triangle

it tells you to stop trying to get A to fit into B or vice versa

it tells you to start looking for C as that is where the answer lies !
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The key idea is that there is not ONE set of laws that govern our universe but Several distinct and separate ones !

Each set of laws is complete within itself ...but can only EVER describe part of what we observe in our universe

this explains why we cant ever unify quantum mechanics with gravity

the membrane that houses "quantum mechanics" cannot directly interact with the membrane housing "gravity" but a third membrane housing "gluey stringlets" can interact with both

if quantum mechanics and gravity cant be joined in some manner then our universe would not be able to exist

my theory explains why there appear to be two vastly different description of our one observable universe

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I put forward the idea of theory X which is responsible for creating membrane of different flavours (like a random number generator)

I propose that our universe is composed of s number of different flavour membranes that via there attractive properties have joined together like a sandwhich

I propose that we have decoded part of the theory for some of the membranes which make up our universe but haven't realized there seperate rule sets

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Dark matter and dark energy can be explained by unbonded stringlets interactin with bonded ones on there home membrane

The big bang was where the membranes collided and started zipping themselves together via mutual attraction

consider a drop of water falling on to the surface of a floating soap bubble..bang..and now the shockwaves spread like an ever growing ring...the expansion of the universe

the complications with 11dimensional string theory may be simplified under this regime

string theory may be a part explanation of X ...that is the effects not the causes of X

X creates the membranes A,B,C etc so it is no surprise that the string theory seems to be cohesive in part with what we observe in our (ABC) universe

I feel that my theory explains why we seem to have so many complications and contradictions we cant resolve.....that is the strength of my case

Rather than continuing to post more of your semi-stream-of-consciousness ideas, would you please answer the pending questions? By the rules of the forum, you are obligated to do so. Please answer my question from Post #6.

or to put it another way

there are 3 columns of figures to add up to describe our universe not just one

summing the 3 totals WILL NOT make any sense anymore more than adding up 3 prime numbers will give you a theory for creating an infinite sequence of primes

in other words we may GAIN a theory which describes everything in our universe

having done so we will be left with a handful of numbers with certain properties (like prime numbers do)

the greater task after this has been achieved will be to figure out what kind of master equation X was capable of generating this sequence...if all we can observe is 1,3,5 or 7,31,111 we could be on a sticky wicket as the sequence could be infinite

one can only hope that the rulesets for OUR membranes are in the lower registers and close together as this will make decoding a simpler task

in reply its is a way of thinking how things work

This is of great importance for without this we will run around looking for the wrong things in the wrong place

the reason for posting is that in all my studies i have never came across the idea of one universe actually made from separate laws. yet i read all the time about how we struggle to unify theories

my theory neatly explains why we cant, why we wont ever be able to , and how we should go looking for those distinct rules sets

it also explains how two totally incompatible rules sets can interact with a third

ref What falsifiable predictions does your formulation make?

I cannot see any way at present how my description of the universe is at odds with any generally excepted observation or theory...i would have posted comment saying where it falls down

It is a truly beautiful idea (perhaps much simpler than will actually be discovered..but the 3 membrane case demonstrates a key concept of how to unify the ununifiable)

there may actually be a dozen membranes involved and there discovery solving apparant discrepancies (revealing that the fly in the ointment actually exists and is an integral part of the whole !)

If your idea is in principle not falsifiable, it is in fact outside of the domain of science. It doesn't mean the idea is wrong, but it does mean that the issue can't be settled through experiment, and thus lies more in the domain of metaphysics or philosophy. It then is more of a way of thinking about things that "just makes sense" to you. If that's the case, then your ideas are not ATM in the strict sense -- you're just offering a different interpretation (say). It's analogous to the situation in QM -- there's the way to get numerical answers, and then there's the Copenhagen interpretation of how to think about things. But you can still get the right answers without using that particular interpretation.

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