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Old 26-February-2004, 07:59 PM
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this photo analyzed from space.com was too easy..

http://www.wiolawapress.com/martian.htm

just a beginning of what is actually there

the ptera came out splendidly.. well

so the reign of nasa and jpl.. is at an end.. they lie and know apparently now Y....

ah ho Wiolawa
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Old 26-February-2004, 08:16 PM
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Hey!! I can actually see the lil cocoon guy! That's the first time I've ever manged to make anything out in wiola's gobbledegook.

I also sucked at Seeing Eye books too



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Old 26-February-2004, 08:28 PM
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Re "MASKS.. of the HARLEQUINS", remember, Mardi Gras was the day before yesterday! \/
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Old 26-February-2004, 09:01 PM
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wiolawa, have you checked out this site? The BA shows how pareidola ( when something natural looks like a face or other common objects) is in fact a very common occurrence.

The things you are seeing are not really what they appear to be. They are in fact natural geological features that simply look like other things. The idea that human beings can somehow have DNA from lizards is completely incorrect as well.

I understand that you really believe these things to be true but haven't you noticed that most people with whom you discuss these things do not see them as you do? Please think about your beliefs and find someone that you trust to talk this over with. What you are seeing as "real" lifeforms are just your own perceptions. I'm telling you the truth, please consider re-thinking your beliefs.
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Old 26-February-2004, 09:19 PM
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It's very difficult to believe this person is serious.

I hope they are making some money off of this silliness, because that's the only sane reason I can come up with for attempting to present it to the public.
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Old 26-February-2004, 09:48 PM
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It's very difficult to believe this person is serious.

I hope they are making some money off of this silliness, because that's the only sane reason I can come up with for attempting to present it to the public.
Unfortunately, I think this person is serious and that their beliefs have little to do with making money. I think MAP from "Martain Chronicles" and his insistance that there are "little people" on Mars is much the same as wiolawa's. I'm not a psychologist but I highly suspect that this is the sort of thing that needs to be addressed by professionals in that field.
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:06 PM
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this photo analyzed from space.com was too easy..

http://www.wiolawapress.com/martian.htm

just a beginning of what is actually there

the ptera came out splendidly.. well

so the reign of nasa and jpl.. is at an end.. they lie and know apparently now Y....

ah ho Wiolawa
Ummm... are you serious? Really.

I mean, you filter this and solarize that and edge-enhance and whatnot, and you get shapes that are suggestive of something familiar. But that's a mighty big step towards claiming that NASA is covering up life on Mars because of missions largely intended to look for evidence of... drum roll, please... life on Mars.

Really, are you yanking our chain, wio? It can be hard to tell with some of the posters who visit BABB.
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:11 PM
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So what exactly am I supposed to be seeing in this picture? If I squint and tilt my head a bit I can see any number of things.
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:21 PM
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Sad. Very Sad.

You realise that these draco would only be an inch or so tall? Once again my point stands - you're going to find your little lizards in 100% of images you perform this processing idiocy on. That includes the above picture Starbuck posted. Wake up!
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:26 PM
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I KNEW I'd seen that car before. The car I'm talking about is this one:



And, THIS is where I've seen it before.



Notice that both vehicles have TWO WHEELS!! COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

Notary sojac! =D>
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:40 PM
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this photo analyzed from space.com was too easy..

http://www.wiolawapress.com/martian.htm

just a beginning of what is actually there

the ptera came out splendidly.. well

so the reign of nasa and jpl.. is at an end.. they lie and know apparently now Y....

ah ho Wiolawa
If this impresses you, you really should spend an afternoon watching the clouds go by. You can see all sorts of familiar shapes there, but ythat doesn't mean they're artificially created. Same is true for these photos, espescially where they've been so heavily edited.

Also a question for you. Why should we believe the photos you're providing when, by your own admission, they're so heavily processed? Wouldn't the photos be more useful *before* you took Photoshop to them?
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Old 26-February-2004, 10:49 PM
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All attempts to "explain" her images to Wio are a total waste of time. I have followed her on GLP for sometime now, and any attempt at a rational discussion is useless. She is more delusional than Nancy L.

She needs medication, not discussion.

That aside, it was great seeing Smokey Stover again! That strip was delightfully surreal, and well beyond a kid's ability to appreciate.

Notary Sojac to all!
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Also a question for you. Why should we believe the photos you're providing when, by your own admission, they're so heavily processed? Wouldn't the photos be more useful *before* you took Photoshop to them?
Not to her, because she believes that processing an image like this truly gives you the ability to zoom in infinitely and see through solid surfaces. I wish I was joking.
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Old 27-February-2004, 03:35 AM
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I think I have had enough of this. Considering these are the same claims that have been debunked in the other threads wiolawa started, I see no reason to let this continue. It will clearly never stop, with the same wrong claims repeated endlessly.
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signal:noise = improved.
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Old 27-February-2004, 04:12 AM
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anybody ever look into the sky and see faces, animals ect in the clouds above?

ya.
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Old 27-February-2004, 05:33 AM
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anybody ever look into the sky and see faces, animals ect in the clouds above?

ya.
It's never happened before in the history of the human race.


Hamlet, Act III, Scene II:

Hamlet: Do you see that cloud, that's almost in shape like a camel?
Polonius: By the mass, and 't is like a camel, indeed.
Hamlet: Methinks, it is like a weasel.
Polonius: It is backed like a weasel.
Hamlet: Or, like a whale?
Polonius: Very like a whale.


Nope, wio, she's the first of her kind. :roll:
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...Considering these are the same claims that have been debunked in the other threads wiolawa started, I see no reason to let this continue. It will clearly never stop, with the same wrong claims repeated endlessly.
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All attempts to "explain" her images to Wio are a total waste of time. I have followed her on GLP for sometime now, and any attempt at a rational discussion is useless...
Indeed. Never argue with a person who would not know if they had lost.
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I sure hope wio never runs photos of her room through her filters, she'd realize that aliens inhabit her couch.
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Old 27-February-2004, 01:35 PM
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Sssh! The couch lizards are ment to be a secret. You'll spoil our plan to steal every ones loose change!

I wonder if she's ever used this "Unmask the lizard" filter set on a photograph of herself!
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Wiolawa "analyzes" Phil
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Old 27-February-2004, 06:00 PM
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Da**it, Phil, she's on to something. For the sake of BABB and humanity in general, I insist you eat a live gerbil on national television and not enjoy it, in order to prove you're actually human.



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Old 27-February-2004, 06:47 PM
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My cousin suffers from schizophrenia. I see many common elements between his behavior (when he is not on the proper medication) and that of wiolawa. Here's a snip from the Mayo Clinic's website regarding the symptoms of schizophrenia:

"Delusions are firmly held beliefs that have no basis in reality. The most common subtype of schizophrenia is paranoid schizophrenia, in which you hold irrational beliefs that others are persecuting you or conspiring against you. For example, some people with schizophrenia may believe that the television is directing their behavior or that Martians are controlling their thoughts"

http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm...&WT.srch=1

I also notice the manner of expression used, strange analogies, words that seem to "go together" but make no sense, ignoring certain direct questions, dismissing basic facts about reality....my cousin did all of this.

The point that caused my Aunt to seek help arrived when he came home from college and ripped all of the telephones right out of the wall (this was before cell phones). When she asked why he'd done such a thing he claimed that the government was watching us all through our telephones! At this time he was a student at Cornell Univ. and was doing fine academically. His roomate had moved out because of the bizarre behavior but he was doing fine in his classes!

Unless a friend or family member can reach out and help I'm afraid that there is probably little that can be done to help such people. I know it can seem really humorous but the bottom line is that this is a severe and debilitating illness that does not get better on it's own. I think this is all very sad and I wish I could do something to help, because with proper medication people can get better have a better quality of life.
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Yeah PHILLIP, I want some proof!

Hey, if Farley Mowat can eat them so can you!

Do it for science Phil!
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Da**it, Phil, she's on to something. For the sake of BABB and humanity in general, I insist you eat a live gerbil on national television and not enjoy it, in order to prove you're actually human.

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Funny, I was thinking V (for Visitor) myself.
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Old 27-February-2004, 11:54 PM
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Da**it, Phil, she's on to something. For the sake of BABB and humanity in general, I insist you eat a live gerbil on national television and not enjoy it, in order to prove you're actually human.

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Funny, I was thinking V (for Visitor) myself.
Ugliness is only skin deep! :wink:

Do hope this gal can get some help, she appears to have quite a background re education and experience.
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