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Saluki
13-January-2005, 04:49 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/01/13/martini.galaxy.reut/index.html

This is important because the Milky Way is also a barred galaxy, and studying bars could help determine how our own galaxy formed, said Patricia Knezek, an astronomer who works with the Kitt-Peak Observatories in Tucson, Arizona.

Last I checked, it was a spiral galaxy.

Grey
13-January-2005, 04:53 PM
...studying bars could help determine how our own galaxy formed.
Note to self: Renew efforts to study galactic formation. :D

jt-3d
13-January-2005, 05:48 PM
Stupid CNN, it's Millyways, the restaraunt at the end on the universe but I wouldn't expect CNN to know that.

Grey
13-January-2005, 06:09 PM
Oh, and on a more serious note, I believe that recent observations have indeed suggested that the Milky Way is a barred spiral galaxy.

Saluki
13-January-2005, 06:16 PM
That would be news to me. Do you have a link? I would think that if this is a recent finding, it should be mentioned in the story. I bet if you asked 10 non-astronomer astronomy buffs what type of galaxy the milky way is, you would get at least 9 answers of "spiral".

jt-3d
13-January-2005, 06:24 PM
APOD (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050104.html) is always saying that. A barred spiral.

WHarris
13-January-2005, 07:51 PM
IIRC, they were thinking that the Milky Way was a barred spiral back when I was studying at Villanova. And I graduated from there back in 1985.


:o (God, has it been twenty years already!)

Cougar
13-January-2005, 08:08 PM
Twenty five years ago, astronomers thought the interstellar medium within our galaxy consisted of single atoms. But using radio telescopes and detectors sensitive to radiation emitted by molecules, "they found that 10 to 50 percent of the gas in our galaxy is molecular -- atoms stuck together -- and that it tends to cluster in giant clouds. About 99 percent of this gas is molecular hydrogen... but at least 53 other molecules have been detected, including ethyl alcohol, or vodka. The clouds of gas near the center of our galaxy contain enough vodka to fill more than 10,000 goblets the size of earth." [Heinz Pagels, Perfect Symmetry] (Emphasis added by the bartender.)

A Thousand Pardons
13-January-2005, 08:47 PM
"... but at least 53 other molecules have been detected, including ethyl alcohol, or vodka."
I prefer to think of it as Maker's Mark

Harvestar
15-January-2005, 04:51 AM
They've also found sugar in the bar of the Milky Way.

Kebsis
15-January-2005, 05:27 AM
I believe a few bad puns are located there as well. :P

crateris
15-January-2005, 03:57 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

jfribrg
18-January-2005, 02:40 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

Don't know about that , but there is a nebulous region a bit lower than the belt.

tjm220
18-January-2005, 08:50 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

Don't know about that , but there is a nebulous region a bit lower than the belt.

Stellar censorship. [-X :wink:

Swift
18-January-2005, 09:16 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

Don't know about that , but there is a nebulous region a bit lower than the belt.

Stellar censorship. [-X :wink:
See what happens because of Janet Jackson and the FCC. :lol:

Ut
18-January-2005, 09:38 PM
That would be news to me. Do you have a link? I would think that if this is a recent finding, it should be mentioned in the story. I bet if you asked 10 non-astronomer astronomy buffs what type of galaxy the milky way is, you would get at least 9 answers of "spiral".

The Milky Way is believed to be a barred spiral of classification SABbc.

See the models of Freudenrich (1998), or Binney & Gerhard (1997), or data from Blitz and Spergel (1991) (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=1991ApJ...379..631B), or López-Corredoira et al (2001) (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2001A%26A...373..139L).

A quick Google found this page (http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/milkyway.html), from where the links above are taken. I'm not sure where Freudenrich or Binney & Gerhard were published, but their work is referenced in Galactic Astronomy by Binney and Merrifield.

crateris
18-January-2005, 10:18 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

Don't know about that , but there is a nebulous region a bit lower than the belt.

Ohhh, THAT'S why it's referred to as Orion's SWORD!!!!

:P

C.

A Thousand Pardons
19-January-2005, 02:37 PM
Isn't there some armpit hair under the Orion arm of the Milky Way?

C.

Don't know about that , but there is a nebulous region a bit lower than the belt.

Ohhh, THAT'S why it's referred to as Orion's SWORD!!!!
I'm pretty sure that jfribrg was referring to the http://www.glyphweb.com/esky/constellations/orionsbelt.html]Horsehead (http://www.glyphweb.com/esky/default.htm?[url) Nebula[/url], more or less on Orion's hip, rather than the famous Great Orion Nebula which is a lot lower down from the belt, rather than a bit.