View Full Version : Scotty's final *beam up*?
N C More
20-July-2005, 04:42 PM
My son just said that Fox news is reporting the death of James Doohan. :( Anyone know about this?
Kesh
20-July-2005, 04:51 PM
Well, CNN Headline news just announced it on TV. :(
Cylinder
20-July-2005, 04:51 PM
Sad - I just posted another thread. Altzeimer's is a cruel disease. Sometimes being released from it is a blessing. I was happy when my grandmother passed.
Cylinder
20-July-2005, 04:53 PM
Here (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050720/APN/507200802&cachetime=3&template=dateline) is a press release.
James Doohan, the burly chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise in the original "Star Trek" TV series and motion pictures who responded to the command "Beam me up, Scotty," died early Wednesday. He was 85.
Doohan died at 5:30 a.m. at his Redmond, Wash., home with his wife of 28 years, Wende, at his side, Los Angeles agent and longtime friend Steve Stevens said. The cause of death was pneumonia and Alzheimer's disease, he said.
The Canadian-born Doohan was enjoying a busy career as a character actor when he auditioned for a role as an engineer in a new space adventure on NBC in 1966. A master of dialects from his early years in radio, he tried seven different accents.
"The producers asked me which one I preferred," Doohan recalled 30 years later. "I believed the Scot voice was the most commanding. So I told them, 'If this character is going to be an engineer, you'd better make him a Scotsman.'"
I did not know he was a pilot in the RCAF.
kucharek
20-July-2005, 05:01 PM
Neil Armstrong attended Doohan's farewell party (http://www.planetxpo.com/doohan/) last August. And now Scotty died on July 20th. What a date for a spaceflight engineer!
Harald
Hokie
20-July-2005, 05:03 PM
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Sticks
20-July-2005, 05:09 PM
As reported on the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4701167.stm)
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On the radio they said his character's position with the transporter lead to the line "Beam me up Scotty" But I seem to remember, that line was never said on STOS
banquo's_bumble_puppy
20-July-2005, 05:14 PM
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warp speed Scottie
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Swift
20-July-2005, 06:08 PM
:cry:
A whole page of Scotty quotes (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3253/regular/doohan_scotty_quotes_tos.html)
"It's...it's... ... ...um, it's green." -- Data to Scotty, refering to an unmarked bottle of alcoholic content while with him in Ten Forward, Relics
Here is a big swig of green for you Scotty.
Gillianren
20-July-2005, 07:43 PM
On the radio they said his character's position with the transporter lead to the line "Beam me up Scotty" But I seem to remember, that line was never said on STOS
absolutely right. I believe the closest they got was "Mr. Scott, beam me up."
Swift
20-July-2005, 08:03 PM
It would be nice if the SciFi channel or Spike TV (they showed Next Gen reruns for a long time) did a Scotty marathon in tribute - all Scotty-rich episodes from the original series and the other ones.
Edymnion
20-July-2005, 08:22 PM
http://i-newswire.com/pr37234.html
*cues bagpipes playing Amazing Grace*
We are gathered here today to mourn the passing of the longest lived redshirt in the history of Trek. He passed away in his home from a combination of pneumonia and Alzheimer's at 5:30 AM, Wednesday, the twentieth of July, 2005. Perhaps appropriately enough, he passed on the 36th anniversary of the moon landing. A day to remember one of science's greatest triumphs, and science fiction's greatest losses...
http://70.85.81.229/2932/36/emo/cry.gif Beam him up, God. http://70.85.81.229/2932/36/emo/cry.gif
http://www.geocities.com/edymnion3/Tribute.jpg
Van Rijn
20-July-2005, 08:32 PM
That ... hurts. For no particular reason I watched "Doomsday Machine" last night. Doohan/Scotty has some great bits there. Scotty was definitely one of my childhood heroes.
WHarris
20-July-2005, 08:42 PM
That ... hurts. For no particular reason I watched "Doomsday Machine" last night. Doohan/Scotty has some great bits there. Scotty was definitely one of my childhood heroes.
The first con I saw him at (early 80s), he said that was his favorite episode.
Charlie in Dayton
20-July-2005, 08:43 PM
It's always a treat to see an actor unexpectedly turn up in a part that is totally different from the role you are accustomed to. Imagine my surprise when I realized that I was watching James Doohan astride a horse as a cowboy (as best I can describe the role) in a Richard Harris - John Huston movie... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067388/)
Fare thee well, Mr. Doohan...you were one of the best...
N C More
20-July-2005, 09:01 PM
Wow, this is really sad but I'm glad that he didn't linger with that horrible Alzheimer's disease! :evil:
Engineer Scott was always my favorite. After all, I married an Engineer! :D
Evalain
20-July-2005, 09:12 PM
That ... hurts. For no particular reason I watched "Doomsday Machine" last night. Doohan/Scotty has some great bits there. Scotty was definitely one of my childhood heroes.
I think it hurts a lot of people.. myself included. It's strange.. most of my friends who are in engineering (20-40'somethings, all) credit Montgomery Scott for being one of the "people" that inspired them to become engineers. I've read other things that said this isn't just a weird phenomena among people I know. Other things I've read and heard say that he was a very genuine person.
And I, too, thought that July 20 was a fitting date. Be at peace, Mr. Doohan.
Eva, she who Lurks
kucharek
20-July-2005, 09:26 PM
I think it hurts a lot of people.. myself included. It's strange.. most of my friends who are in engineering (20-40'somethings, all) credit Montgomery Scott for being one of the "people" that inspired them to become engineers.
Because he inspired so many young people to become an engineer, he got an honorary degree in engineering be the Milwaukee School of Engineering.
Here a lengthy article about the farewell convention:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/6634.html
ZaphodBeeblebrox
20-July-2005, 10:43 PM
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Gillianren
20-July-2005, 10:45 PM
in the movie Trekkies, there's an interesting interview with him about a woman whose life he saved. he didn't have the flair of McCoy, but lord, he was better than Kirk. Gods rest him.
gethen
20-July-2005, 11:00 PM
It's always a treat to see an actor unexpectedly turn up in a part that is totally different from the role you are accustomed to. Imagine my surprise when I realized that I was watching James Doohan astride a horse as a cowboy (as best I can describe the role) in a Richard Harris - John Huston movie... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067388/)
Fare thee well, Mr. Doohan...you were one of the best...
And he was the best thing in the movie, next to the bear. :wink:
I'll miss Mr. Scott. He was all about his ship, without all the emoting and so forth.
hippietrekx
20-July-2005, 11:05 PM
:cry: He was my favorite TOS actor!
--hippie
Donnie B.
21-July-2005, 12:04 AM
It was from Scottie that I learned the maxim: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!"
Not that I've ever managed to avoid being fooled twice...
We'll miss ya, Mr. Scott. It's tolling for thee tonight.
Superluminal
21-July-2005, 12:49 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Kemal
21-July-2005, 02:10 AM
Did you guys know he was in WW2? He landed at Normandy and was wounded in combat.
John M. Dollan
21-July-2005, 02:36 AM
I grew up with the original crew, as many did, though like those many by the time that I came to appreciate TV, never mind Trek, the original show had been in syndication for a very long time.
As always when this news hits, I find myself wishing that I could have met him, at least once. In interviews, he reminded me of some of my own lost relatives, and I was always taken with his ease and geniality in those interviews.
At any rate, he will indeed be missed.
...John...
Sammy
21-July-2005, 02:56 AM
An earlier post noted that he was wounded at Normandy at Juno Beach. He apparently was hit by a German machine gun and suffered multiple wounds, including the loss of a finger. He came VERY close to being killed. One slug actually hit him in the chest, but it was stopped by a metal cigarette case.
One of the comments attributed to him in several accounts is that they mad him a Scot becvause the accent sounded authoritative. The histories od ST that I have read all said that it was a homage to the Brit seafaring tradition -- apparently many 19th/20th century marine engineers were Scots. A long-running series of short stories in the old Saturday Evening Post featured the adventures of "Glencannon," a Scottish engineer on a cargo steamer, played to that tradition.
Superluminal
21-July-2005, 03:05 AM
Yeah, he got his right middle finger shot off.
hippietrekx
21-July-2005, 03:57 AM
In fact, Mr. Doohan was Canadian, but learned his accent from a fellow soldier in WW2.
He seems to have lead an interestinf life.
--hippie
Chip
21-July-2005, 04:34 AM
What are you all talking about? Montgomery Scott dead? Why he isn't even born yet. I don't know his birth date, but he's still a young ensign at Starfleet Academy when he gets his first starship post in 2242. (That's a long time from now.) :wink:
Scotty's bio (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/character/1112502.html).
Maksutov
21-July-2005, 05:23 AM
Where's that bottle of Saurian brandy? Och, if it can't be found, some Scotch whisky will do just fine!
Time to stow the keyboard for a while. The salt water might short it out.
:cry:
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Laurie
21-July-2005, 06:06 AM
My mother worked in the Aerospace Industry as an Engineer when the original series first aired. Knew a few that were alot like "Scotty" in real life.
It's been fun, "Scotty". Have a great trip!
Enzp
21-July-2005, 06:38 AM
Ach, I guess he can't take much morrrrre of this.
"He's dead, Jim."
Warp speed, Scotty.
"It's... green." was always one of my favorite lines.
I have one of those curved Suarian Brandy bottles. It was a commemorative bottle from George Dickel distilleries, and a very tasty sour mash bourbon was inside. I felt a part of things the first time I saw it on the screen, I looked over to mine on the shelf. Yup, same one.
Tuckerfan
21-July-2005, 07:48 AM
On the way to work today, I heard an interview with one of the producers of the original series. He was there when Doohan auditioned for the part. According to him, the role of Chief Engineer was supposed to be a one shot deal, and not a regular cast member. It was Doohan's performance which inspired Roddenberry to make Scotty a permanent member of the cast. I can't imagine Star Trek without Scotty. The producer (and Will Wheaton) went out of his way to say what a nice person Doohan was. One might think that this was simply a case of not speaking ill of the dead, but the tone with which he spoke, the details he provided, pretty much erase that idea.
I read an interview with him in his later years where he said that his hobby was just showing up at tech companies (unannounced) and asking for a tour, which he always got. Seems the companies were just chock full of guys who became engineers because of him. Doohan also claimed that it was his idea for the character to be Scottish.
Swift
21-July-2005, 01:23 PM
CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/21/doohan.space.ap/index.html)
Houston-based Space Services Inc., which specializes in space memorials, plans to send a few grams of Doohan's ashes aboard a rocket later this year. The remains, which will be sealed in an aluminum capsule, will eventually burn up when they re-enter Earth's atmosphere.
ToSeek
21-July-2005, 03:13 PM
Goddard Space Flight Center has guest lecturers on a weekly basis. They've attracted some big names (by geek standards) over the years: Edward Teller, Admiral Grace Hopper, Donald Johanssen (discoverer of "Lucy"), Michael Malin. But the biggest crowd I've ever seen was for James Doohan. I made the mistake of getting there only fifteen minutes early and couldn't get into the auditorium.
Astrobairn
21-July-2005, 03:55 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4703419.stm
Oddly it would appear that Scotty was born in the town I grew up in in 2222 or something. They want to erect a plaque :o Mary Queen of Scots not famous enough!
Spacewriter
21-July-2005, 04:04 PM
raising a glass of Saurian brandy:
Scotty? Here's to ye, lad.
publiusr
21-July-2005, 06:34 PM
I remember him at a convention telling about Skin So Soft as bug repellant--and a story of a Tiger Moth in a flat spin he was relating.
He was my favorite too.
And here's another glass raised to you sir.
Thank You.
sarongsong
22-July-2005, 06:46 AM
On the radio they said his character's position with the transporter lead to the line "Beam me up Scotty" But I seem to remember, that line was never said on STOSabsolutely right. I believe the closest they got was "Mr. Scott, beam me up."Nope, not even that, according to a ST expert appearing on Coast-to-Coast's tribute last night. He says neither phrase was ever uttered in any of the 70+ episodes---that it was made up by the fans in the same manner that "Play it again, Sam!" was never spoken in Casablanca.
Gillianren
22-July-2005, 06:49 AM
well, I certainly haven't made a study of it, and since I cannot remember where I read it, you'll have to take it with a grain of salt--I heard it was in one of the movies.
Tobin Dax
22-July-2005, 08:40 AM
I read an interview with him in his later years where he said that his hobby was just showing up at tech companies (unannounced) and asking for a tour, which he always got. Seems the companies were just chock full of guys who became engineers because of him. Doohan also claimed that it was his idea for the character to be Scottish.
"You mean to tell me I've travelled millions of miles-"
"Thousands."
"Thousands of miles to visit your factory, and you didn't even know I was coming?" 8)
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: [/quote]
Tuckerfan
22-July-2005, 09:23 AM
A nice interview with George Takai on Doohan's passing can be found here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8661449/). He said Jimmy was a great drinking buddy. Why am I not surprised? :cool:
kucharek
22-July-2005, 10:06 AM
A nice interview with George Takai on Doohan's passing can be found here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8661449/). He said Jimmy was a great drinking buddy. Why am I not surprised? :cool:
It's Takei. But the fault is with MSNBC.
Harald
Tuckerfan
22-July-2005, 10:14 AM
A nice interview with George Takai on Doohan's passing can be found here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8661449/). He said Jimmy was a great drinking buddy. Why am I not surprised? :cool:
It's Takei. But the fault is with MSNBC.
HaraldYou know, I thought that it was "ei" but I went with what M$NBC had. Stupid me.
kucharek
22-July-2005, 10:57 AM
CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/21/doohan.space.ap/index.html)
Houston-based Space Services Inc., which specializes in space memorials, plans to send a few grams of Doohan's ashes aboard a rocket later this year. The remains, which will be sealed in an aluminum capsule, will eventually burn up when they re-enter Earth's atmosphere.
If NASA would be smart, they would offer to take some ashes of him on the next launch of an interplanetary probe. I'm sure, the engineers would love to work on this.
Harald
tracer
22-July-2005, 07:11 PM
Engineer Scott was always my favorite. After all, I married an Engineer! :D
So, tell us -- can your spouse's engines, in fact, take much more o' this?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
Chief Engineer Scott
22-July-2005, 07:11 PM
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Swift
22-July-2005, 08:13 PM
CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/21/doohan.space.ap/index.html)
Houston-based Space Services Inc., which specializes in space memorials, plans to send a few grams of Doohan's ashes aboard a rocket later this year. The remains, which will be sealed in an aluminum capsule, will eventually burn up when they re-enter Earth's atmosphere.
If NASA would be smart, they would offer to take some ashes of him on the next launch of an interplanetary probe. I'm sure, the engineers would love to work on this.
Harald
Good idea. Or if they ever get the shuttle off the ground, do a little tribute to him, even just saying a few words, in orbit.
George
22-July-2005, 09:20 PM
Engineer Scott was always my favorite. After all, I married an Engineer! :D
So, tell us -- can your spouse's engines, in fact, take much more o' this?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
Never underestimate auxilliary power!
Scotty sure brightened my day when I would rush to the dorm to catch the next show. Full speed ahead, Scotty -"Aye Captain".
kucharek
15-October-2005, 12:06 PM
Seems Scotty will go into orbit
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9701071/
Rocket plans laid out for ‘Star Trek’ Scotty
Firm follows through on James Doohan’s wish to be launched into space
Space Services Inc., a commercial launch operator, will send the late actor’s remains into space aboard its Explorers Flight on Dec. 6, a company spokeswoman said Friday.
http://www.nameastarspacelaunch.com/doohan_message.asp
NEOWatcher
06-April-2007, 03:05 PM
I think that it is great that this is happening, but the press is blowing this all out of proportion (in my mind) I sure wish they would stop saying they are sending his ashes into space without at least saying "some" or "a portion". Also no mention that it will only be in space for 90 seconds.
This firm will send between 1 and 14 grams. Nowhere can I find what it is in this case. When you consider that a cremation produces 2 to 3 kg of ashes, then this probably wouldn't even equate to a big toe.
Noclevername
12-April-2007, 01:24 AM
Ah, Scotty, we'll miss you. What a great idea, to have an engineer as a hero, who saves the day with his brains and hard work while Kirk punches and Spock pinches...
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