Another woo-woo : How Quantum Physics can change your life

[jfribrg]

I saw this (http://www.magicaltransformations.com/quantumphysics-s.htm) web site in a google ad in a physics forum and couldnt resist the temptation to click on it. How I wish I didn't !

quantum physics has actually revealed that it is the thoughts of our subconscious mind that is creating our experience of life

quantum physics has also shown that memories are stored in your cells and then passed on through DNA, in the same manner that memories such as eye color or hair texture are passed on.

[SolusLupus]

Oh, for the love of...

QUANTUM MECHANICS DOES NOT!

[Dragon Star]

Wow...:eh:

The first one is spread more then likely by the pseudoscience movie "What the **** do we know?" which is a pile of propaganda, apparently.:doh:

[Gillianren]

Well, it definitely isn't the What the Bleep Do We Know people; this isn't Ramtha, it's some woman named Raven--which makes me think of a bad show on the Disney Channel, but there you are. Sounds like the same premise, though; I shouldn't be at all surprised if Ramtha sues. (I can never remember the woman's real name, but I know she's sued someone else who claimed to be channelling Ramtha, as "Ramtha" is trademarked.)

[Swift]

And Raven is selling something (Her products webpage (http://www.magicaltransformations.com/store.htm)).
Life Transformation Package
-Includes 5 Private one hour Transformational Sessions ($1,000 Value)
-Notes prepared and faxed to you
-Access to weekly Group Tracking Call ($250 Value)
-Online Workshop "HOW TO TRANSFORM YOUR LIMITING BELIEFS AND LIVE THE LIFE OF YOUR DREAMS!" ($750 Value)
-Personal Training to reprogram your own subconscious mind

$995 (over $1,000 in savings!)


So I am left to wonder how much of this woo is belief and how much is marketing.

About Raven:
For years, Raven Aponte has used her expertise as a Life Empowerment Coach to help people uncover and transform the hidden fears and beliefs that are limiting their potential.

After receiving her degree in Psychology from U.C. Berkeley, Raven spent years furthering her education in human behavior. This education has included studying under Behavioral Psychologist and Quantum Physicist, Dr. Vernon Woolf, who founded the Academy of Holodynamics, from which Raven received her Practitioner Certification.

Here (http://www.holodynamics.com/) is a webpage about Holodynamics.
Holodynamics views reality as a coherent, dynamic, living, holographic information system whose structure, from micro (smallness) to macro (bigness) is intimately connected with human consciousness. Consciousness is considered a prime condition of the holodynamic universe. It is not limited to a single space-time continuum but emerges from parallel dimensions into a coherent potential for each individual (the Full Potential Self). This personal potential manifests as a quantum potential field within the microtubules of every living cell of the human body and controls all body functions as well as mental and social functions.

I have to tell you that the microtubules of my cells are just overflowing with quantum potential after reading that. :doh:

[Lord Jubjub]

Behavioral Psychology and Quantum Physics. . .a match made in . . .:hand:

[Argos]

Well, quantum mechanics seems to be the Deus ex machina of the present times. It´s capable of "explaining" everything.

[Trebuchet]

Well, it definitely isn't the What the Bleep Do We Know people; this isn't Ramtha, it's some woman named Raven--which makes me think of a bad show on the Disney Channel, but there you are. Sounds like the same premise, though; I shouldn't be at all surprised if Ramtha sues. (I can never remember the woman's real name, but I know she's sued someone else who claimed to be channelling Ramtha, as "Ramtha" is trademarked.)

J.Z. Knight. I don't think she was behind the movie, just in it as an "expert scientist". One of my mother's friends lives in a home formerly owned by Linda Evans, a devoted follower of Knight's. The lady is sure the place is haunted and keeps looking for rumored secret rooms.

[Gillianren]

J.Z. Knight. I don't think she was behind the movie, just in it as an "expert scientist". One of my mother's friends lives in a home formerly owned by Linda Evans, a devoted follower of Knight's. The lady is sure the place is haunted and keeps looking for rumored secret rooms.

I've got a friend whose mom used to do a lot of stuff out at the compound. Yes, by all accounts, she's not only behind it, it's a big ad.

[farmerjumperdon]

"Holodynamics views reality as a coherent, dynamic, living, holographic information system whose structure, from micro (smallness) to macro (bigness) is intimately connected with human consciousness. Consciousness is considered a prime condition of the holodynamic universe. It is not limited to a single space-time continuum but emerges from parallel dimensions into a coherent potential for each individual (the Full Potential Self). This personal potential manifests as a quantum potential field within the microtubules of every living cell of the human body and controls all body functions as well as mental and social functions."

Removing all the fluffy adjectives reveals what a load of tripe this is. For instance:

Holodynamics views reality as a structure intimately connected with human consciousness.

1st question: So what was it intimately connected with prior to the existence of humans? Did reality not exist before humans?

OK, that was 2 questions. Point is, if you boil it down, it falls apart, even if a person is not a rocket scientist.

[Maksutov]

(a quick look back at the 19th)

Arrr, matey! This Raven be prime fer walkin' the planck! Arrr!

[sarongsong]

...I am left to wonder how much of this woo is belief and how much is marketing...No problema,...I offer all of my clients a 100% money back guarantee if they are not completely satisfied...tho I prefer another's view (http://www.brucelipton.com/).

[Maksutov]

No problema, ...I offer all of my clients a 100% money back guarantee if they are not completely satisfied...tho I prefer another's view (http://www.brucelipton.com/).How many clients have received their money back?

[worzel]

If I could help people to live the life of their dreams then I would presumably be able to do the same for myself. What would I become? An astronaut? A world leader? A gifted musician? The internationally acknowledged expert on the quantum reality of peoples dreams? Or an Internet psychic peddling stuff that most people think is bunk? Ummm, decisions decisions....

[JohnW]

If I could help people to live the life of their dreams then I would presumably be able to do the same for myself. What would I become? An astronaut? A world leader? A gifted musician? The internationally acknowledged expert on the quantum reality of peoples dreams? Or an Internet psychic peddling stuff that most people think is bunk? Ummm, decisions decisions....
No, not the life of those dreams. She makes you take an exam, naked.