Whew! I'm glad .... is not real!

[soylentgreen]

I had this idea while reading the "What if...were real?" thread and thought this might be an interesting companion thread.

What kind of things(technologies, social structures, concepts, etc...) that are usually associated with science fiction reality are you very glad are not actually real?

My first thought was flying cars! An absolute staple of sci-fi that always seems to promise a world free of transportation problems. Yeah, right! Everyday, I'm reminded that there are an awful lot of people who can barely handle piloting a vehicle bound to the pavement nevermind careening through the sky over some neighborhood.

I admit, I haven't seen it in some time, but in BLADE RUNNER, they seemed to address this vaguely in that the flying cars were nowhere near common relative to the population. Seemed to me that only the cops had them.(which would make it a neat parallel with the ubiquitous cop choppers over LA now). Granted, it could have also been a issue related to economic spread in 2019 LA too.

Usually, though, films(and cartoons) love to depict the absolutely credulity-snapping realm of thousands of flying vehicles zipping diligently and safely right through skyscraper infested megalopolises(megalopolisi?)with no sign of traffic controls, monitoring systems, safety protocols or even doors(Hello STAR WARS! :rolleyes: )

If anyone has seen a film in which this has been realistically addressed, please say, I would seriously love to see it handled in even the most remotely realistic manner.

So, no...thank goodness we have not achieved this sci-fi aspiration yet. I wouldn't want you zipping over my place in your Ford Peregrine Falcon as you jet over to the Wawas at 2 am for a box of Ring Dings...and I'm sure none of you would want me zipping over your places in my economy Dodo, either. ;)

[nomuse]

Much of what appears in the later immitat...versions of Star Trek.

Replicators. Transporters ("Oops! Sorry about that Phil; I didn't realize I'd left the pattern buffer disengaged.") The Holodeck (and whose turn is it today to mop the holodeck? Ewwwww.) And even those cute little com badges...you just KNOW half of the chatter you'd hear in Voyager's hallways would be "Yeah, I'm on my way to ten-forward now. Now I'm in the turbo lift. She said what? Get out!"

[Gillianren]

Oh, I'm there about the flying cars. I've always thought it was an unsafe concept.

[Maksutov]

This is more like "Aw, I'm sorry .... is not real!"

2001: A Space Odyssey

If it had come true, we would now have Moon bases, a proper space station with artificial gravity, and have had our close encounter at Jupiter/Saturn. We'd be working with the Russians on a joint mission to see what happened out there.

Of course, the "Whew! I'm glad .... is not real!" part would be that we'd be cooperating with the Russians, not the USSR.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3461/iconcool9io.gif

[JonClarke]

Of course, the "Whew! I'm glad .... is not real!" part would be that we'd be cooperating with the Russians, not the USSR.

Meaning?

Jon

[SMEaton]

Any concept or technology concerning "aircars" would need to be fully realized on the ground. The movie Minority Report, loosely based on a Philip K. Dick short story, gave a "pre-vision" (pun intended) of the idea. The technology itself has been around for some time, but has remained "pregnant". Automated traffic control data would be gathered by sensors installed around the vehicle; think... you're sitting 10th in a line at a green light, and you don't have to wait for the inevitable reaction-delay from the nine people in front of you! Instead, the whole line moves as a connected unit (like a train), saving so much time overall. The means of locomotion are irrelevant, whether it be ground or air; the technology just needs to be refined.

[Ronald Brak]

Killer clothing - The fatal red shirts from Star Trek.

[Maksutov]

Originally Posted by Maksutov http://www.bautforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=826935#post826935)
Of course, the "Whew! I'm glad .... is not real!" part would be that we'd be cooperating with the Russians, not the USSR.
Meaning?

JonIn the book, the US and USSR were at each other's throats and war was about to break out. Now, things have calmed down considerably and the effort by the US and Russia would be much more cooperative.

[Gemini]

In the book, the US and USSR were at each other's throats and war was about to break out. Now, things have calmed down considerably and the effort by the US and Russia would be much more cooperative.

I thought it was the Chinese. Hmm

It was Russia in the movies the movies.

[Krel]

Oh, I'm there about the flying cars. I've always thought it was an unsafe concept.

So does the public. I read an article a while back about what happened to the flying car. The author pointed out that most of the population of the U.S. has never even flown in an airplane, so getting them to ride in a flying car, much less piloting it themselves isn't going to happen.

It's kind of like the video phone. Back in the early sixties, Ma Bell was all set to lay the video phone lines arcoss the U.S. of A.. They had an exhibit at the World's Fair where you could talk to people in other parts of the U.S. on a video phone. Afterwards they asked the people what they thought of the video phone, and everybody loved it. They were then asked it they would want one in their home, and the greater majority replied in horror: "Oh no! I wouldn't want anyone to see me in my home"! That is why there is no video phone network today. The same as with the flying car, the general public didn't want it.

Me? I'm still waitng for the jet pack, and laser gun I was promised as a kid.

David.

[Chip]

From "Forbidden Planet" (a wonderful movie BTW) was the "household disintegrator beam" (described in 1950s style as "a housewife's dream".)

Drawbacks - if you accidentally tossed the pickle jar into a normal old-fashioned waste bin, you can always get it out again.

If you accidental slipped and your hand went into the trash can you can always pull it out in one piece. (Not quite true with garbage disposals of course.)

I can imagine parents saying: "Kids, don't play around the household disintegrator beam!" "Where's Fido?"

Also, the protective security shutters on the house in "Forbidden Planet" do come down very fast, or do they just appear? Would hate to be standing in a doorway at the wrong moment.

(I do like Morbious's desert home design and office however.)

[Swift]

Also, the protective security shutters on the house in "Forbidden Planet" do come down very fast, or do they just appear? Would hate to be standing in a doorway at the wrong moment.

I always thought so too. I wonder if some future consumer protection agency will require them to have the photo sensors like garage doors, to prevent some kid from getting squashed. ;)

[Z28Jerry]

I'm glad that transporters are not available to us in this day and age. The ability to be anywhere in a few seconds is a scary thought when not everyone on the planet shares the same belief system, form of government, or other major philosophical/technological differences.

Not to mention I don't want teleporters to be real until we can prevent/cure all disease, etc. Too much potential for harm in today's world. But, man what it would do for commerce......

[JonClarke]

In the book, the US and USSR were at each other's throats and war was about to break out. Now, things have calmed down considerably and the effort by the US and Russia would be much more cooperative.

Thanks! Thank goodness those days are over.

Gemini's right, relations between the US and USSR in the book, bad in the film. In the book the Chinese were also present and inscrutably followed their own agenda.

Incidently, the serialisation of 2010 in the USSR was terminated half way through when someone realised that all the cosmonauts were named after famous dissents. Not to mention the Sakharov drive.

Jon

[greenfeather]

This is more like "Aw, I'm sorry .... is not real!"

2001: A Space Odyssey

If it had come true, we would now have Moon bases, a proper space station with artificial gravity, and have had our close encounter at Jupiter/Saturn.


And don't forget 2010 where Jupiter gets turned into a sun. Don't you think One sun hot enough? Imagine being roasted from both sides.

Although having Europa turn into a dinosaur planet would be way cool.

[greenfeather]

I used to love SF about telepathy and other psi talents...used to buy those books about "how to develop your ESP". But now I'm sure glad nobody can read my thoughts!

[weatherc]

Not to mention I don't want teleporters to be real until we can prevent/cure all disease, etc. Too much potential for harm in today's world. But, man what it would do for commerce......Bolding mine.

Yeah, no one would ever have any time to themselves.

Boss: "I know you're enjoying your vacation in Maui, but since you can use the teleporter, why don't you come into the office for an hour or so, then just teleport back to Maui. Okay, maybe I'll need you for about two hours, but I can guarantee that you will be back on your vacation before lunch time!"

No thanks.

Oh, and food pills are one thing from science fiction that I'm glad never came to pass. Last time I checked, most people actually like eating real food.

[Maksutov]

I thought it was the Chinese. Hmm

It was Russia in the movies the movies.Ah, the movies, the movies.

You're probably right. I had the film in mind, and haven't reread the book for a long time, a long time.

Meanwhile, this manner of speech has certain effects, certain effects, which must be similar to what seagoing mammals experience as they call, as they call to each other, to each other.

http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/tiere/r025.gif

[Romanus]

The "simography" technology from David Marusek's "The Wedding Album". Don't want to give anything away, but if you've read the story you know what I mean.

Nanotechnology, a la "Blood Music".

[Charly]

One thing that used to give me nightmares... The Thing.

That would be pretty scarry, considering I dont own my own personal flame thrower. I dont think vinyl or a cricket bat would to the trick.

[PhantomWolf]

Usually, though, films(and cartoons) love to depict the absolutely credulity-snapping realm of thousands of flying vehicles zipping diligently and safely right through skyscraper infested megalopolises(megalopolisi?)with no sign of traffic controls, monitoring systems, safety protocols or even doors(Hello STAR WARS! )

Actually the Star Wars vehicles for the most part are low to the ground like Luke's speeder in A New Hope. There are high altitude vehicles shown mostly in Attack of the Clones but they are being monitored and have travel lanes. Different directions have different attitudes to avoid the trouble of head on accidents (not every one drives/flies like Anakin.) As to doors, most of the speeders shown in SW were convertables so didn't need them. Larger enclosed vehicles, like the buses shown, did have doors.

[Swift]

One thing that used to give me nightmares... The Thing.

That would be pretty scarry, considering I dont own my own personal flame thrower. I dont think vinyl or a cricket bat would to the trick.
Some aerosol cans used to used hydrocarbons as the propellent, you could actually ignite the spray. My roommates and I used to use the mini-flame throwers as spider killers. Good to keep in mind if you are attacked by space metamorph monster. :think:

[Maksutov]

Some aerosol cans used to used hydrocarbons as the propellent, you could actually ignite the spray. My roommates and I used to use the mini-flame throwers as spider killers. Good to keep in mind if you are attacked by space metamorph monster. :think:Then, during my first year of college, there was a fellow who was a full-blooded (so he said) Onondaga Indian who was on the first floor of my dormitory. He had an interesting ability similar to the famed Le Pétomane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A9tomane).

In his case, with a match or butane lighter, he could produce a flame that was anywhere from two to five feet long. An amazing sight with the lights out!

And, thanks to the combustion, quite unaromatic.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/566/iconwink6tn.gif

[Chip]

...similar to the famed Le Pétomane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A9tomane)...

Le Pétomane - I have the book about him, (in French no less.) Now out-of-print. However, I believe it was also published in English. http://www.terranuts.com/forums/images/smilies/fart2.gif

[Redtail]

Tribbles... My Fiancee loves lil fuzzy things... and I don't.:wall:

[jimbo]

lightsabers , i can just imagine the local neds and hardmen running around glasgow

[PhantomWolf]

lightsabers , i can just imagine the local neds and hardmen running around glasgow

I don't know, they are supposed to be so difficult to use for a non-jedi that they'd likely do more damage to themselves that anyone else.

[Redtail]

lightsabers , i can just imagine the local neds and hardmen running around glasgow

Must :wall: get :wall: image :wall: of :wall: Jedi :wall: Moyel :wall: out :wall: of :wall: head!

[Ilya]

.An absolute staple of sci-fi that always seems to promise a world free of transportation problems. Yeah, right! Everyday, I'm reminded that there are an awful lot of people who can barely handle piloting a vehicle bound to the pavement nevermind careening through the sky over some neighborhood.

If anyone has seen a film in which this has been realistically addressed, please say, I would seriously love to see it handled in even the most remotely realistic manner.
Film no, book yes. In Niven's Gil Hamilton stories flying taxis are ubiquitous, but they are all computer-controlled. Manual override exists, but not many people know about it (mostly law-enforcement), and even that is really "sufferance-ride" rather than "over-ride" - city's traffic control can seize any manually operated taxi at any time.

Most people never drive anything and do not know how.

[Inferno]

I'm glad that transporters are not available to us in this day and age. The ability to be anywhere in a few seconds is a scary thought when not everyone on the planet shares the same belief system, form of government, or other major philosophical/technological differences.

Not to mention I don't want teleporters to be real until we can prevent/cure all disease, etc. Too much potential for harm in today's world. But, man what it would do for commerce......

Alfred Bester's "The Stars My Destination" (aka Tiger! Tiger!) deals with this very problem. People develop the ability to teleport (called "jaunting") instantly anywhere on the planet. It leads to some interesting (and often humours) outcomes. eg Fathers worrying about men jaunting into their daughters bedrooms for a quickie, the problem of how to keep prisoners locked up, and (i think it was this book) the problem of mass riots happening all over the world as people jaunt to see a riot in action only to get caught up in that very riot, which then makes more people interested to see and they jaunt in to have a look...

[Swift]

Alfred Bester's "The Stars My Destination" (aka Tiger! Tiger!) deals with this very problem. People develop the ability to teleport (called "jaunting") instantly anywhere on the planet. It leads to some interesting (and often humours) outcomes. eg Fathers worrying about men jaunting into their daughters bedrooms for a quickie, the problem of how to keep prisoners locked up, and (i think it was this book) the problem of mass riots happening all over the world as people jaunt to see a riot in action only to get caught up in that very riot, which then makes more people interested to see and they jaunt in to have a look...
Larry Niven talked about the riot/crowd problem with his teleporting booths. He also talked about other social issues.

[jlhredshift]

Time travel.

People from the future would win all the lotteries.

Hmmm?? Or do they?;)

[SMEaton]

Time travel. People from the future would win all the lotteries. Hmmm?? Or do they?;)Retired people from the future have banded together to defraud the rightful winners: retired people of the present!

[weatherc]

Most people never drive anything and do not know how.Whereas, in the present reality, only half of that statement is true.

[PhantomWolf]

The ability to teleport anywhere would be the biggest threat we have to security. Imagine someone with the ability to teleport into a bank vault, or a weapons locker, a nulcear warhead bunker, the Whitehouse's Oval Office, the UN Debating Chamber. Some who could steal a nuke, teleport it into the middle of the 1st Avenue NY Subway Station and teleport out again to anywhere on the planet. Scary.

[Ronald Brak]

We'd have to bolt all nukes down.

Or would that have no effect?

I'd be worried about someone teleporting my pineal gland out of my head.

Imagine all the people who would die when teleporting north or south. If you went far enough and you could be moving a thousand miles an hour in relation to your new surroundings due to the earth's rotation.

[Swift]

Imagine all the people who would die when teleporting north or south. If you went far enough and you could be moving a thousand miles an hour in relation to your new surroundings due to the earth's rotation.
Larry Niven's teleport booths addressed that problem. If you wanted to go long distance, especially if you went North or South, you had to use special booths that compensated for the changes in rotational speed. They placed them in old airports, since no one used planes any longer. So, going anywhere on Earth was a three step process: home to "airport", local airport to distant airport, that airport to final destination.

He also had a neat idea for dealing with what he called "flash riots", that is, some event where so many people would teleport to that you would get mass crowds, riots, etc. (see Inferno's post above). If a riot was going on, Police could override the booths in that area so that people either escaping or coming to the riot would be teleported to special police holding areas

[ggremlin]

Larry Niven wrote a whole series of stories dealing with the problem of the teleport booth. How to stop someone from teleporting into your home, the booth is outside in the entryway; to how to stop a bank robbery, alarm sounds, the booths in the area automatically forward to a large holding area, where the police sort out the criminals in a timely manner or stop working altogether in remote areas.

My favorite stories are the ones where he deals with what may become a real issue, if you believe some stories is an issue now, organleggers. People who deal in illegal harvesting and selling of human organs.:sick: Also by extension what happens to capital punishment in that world.:shhh:

[Sotos]

I'm glad that blernsball isn't real because I'm still trying to understand cricket.

[Roy Batty]

The Bistromathic Drive. Who knows where we'd all end up after a big night out at a restaurant?! :D

[Gillianren]

I'm glad that blernsball isn't real because I'm still trying to understand cricket.

One of my favorite mystery novels, Murder Must Advertise, has an entire chapter that's pretty much play-by-play of a cricket game, and even though I've read the book many times, I still don't know what's going on.

[GDwarf]

One of my favorite mystery novels, Murder Must Advertise, has an entire chapter that's pretty much play-by-play of a cricket game, and even though I've read the book many times, I still don't know what's going on.

"Whiffle 'round the world!"

*ahem*

I still remain certain, no matter what anyone says, that no one actually knows the rules of cricket, the players just go out there and look like they know what they're doing.

[Maha Vailo]

I'm glad mind control isn't real. We'd all be just like ants otherwise - slaves to some higher power.

- Maha Vailo

[Roy Batty]

Cricket (not to be confused with Kriket!), is really quite simple as has been explained by others better than I:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.
Each man that's in the side that's in, goes out, and when he's out, he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.
When they are all out the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out.
Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When both sides have been in and out including the not-outs, that's the end of the game.

Now, back to the OT :)

[Krel]

Cricket (not to be confused with Kriket!), is really quite simple as has been explained by others better than I:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.
Each man that's in the side that's in, goes out, and when he's out, he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.
When they are all out the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out.
Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When both sides have been in and out including the not-outs, that's the end of the game.

Now, back to the OT :)

Now my head hurts. :sad:

David.

[Roy Batty]

Sorry about that David :)

Btw I'm not so keen on the Infinite Improbability drive either, though I wouldn't be too adverse to finite improbability generators at parties ;)

[Swift]

Sorry about that David :)

Btw I'm not so keen on the Infinite Improbability drive either, though I wouldn't be too adverse to finite improbability generators at parties ;)
How about happy robotic doors that tell you how pleased they are to open and close for you? The diodes on the left side of my body hurt just thinking about them.

[PhantomWolf]

I still remain certain, no matter what anyone says, that no one actually knows the rules of cricket

I do, I used to play and Umpire it. Test Cricket requires that you understand it to enjoy it, it really is all about the contest between bowler and batsman. One Day Cricket relies on less understanding and is more a spectacular, though knowing what is going on helps. 20/20 is just go out and slog till you go out.

BTW, I would have posted what Roy did, but he beat me, lol

[AGN Fuel]

Togas. Every third Star Trek (TOS) episode had people in togas (togi??). Living as I do near the coast, the sea breezes would be...disturbing.

(Cricket is a wonderful game, but I am rather old school - I far prefer test cricket to the one-dayers. However, I can understand how people might find a game that might be played for 7 hours a day for 5 days, yet still wind up without a result at the end of it, rather odd.)

[Mellow]

Speaking of Togas reminds me...... Spandex, it seems in SciFi there's far too much time spent living your daily life in spandex.... some of us don't look that great in spandex.... ad I think my butt likes to eat the stuff anyway.

[ASEI]

I'm glad mind control isn't real. We'd all be just like ants otherwise - slaves to some higher power.

- Maha Vailo

It's not? I suppose it depends on what you mean by "mind control". Drop by clambake sometime and look at the tactics used by organizations such as the scientology cult to completely isolate, monitor, and generally screw up the thought processes of the members.

Look at experiments such as the Milgram experiments in totalitarian control, or the Stanford prison experiments. How about the rationalization and the interesting psychological processes used among the perpetrators of the holocaust?

Human beings definitely do have some very troubling psychological buttons, which can give someone who knows how to push them a great deal of power over them. I'm just glad no one is so competent yet in pushing them all that they have that sort of power under control.

[Gillianren]

According to Gene Roddenberry, there were no zippers in the future. Now, leaving aside that there were obvious zippers in a lot of episodes, the history of fashion indicates that, if a fastener works, it will continue to be used. Besides, no zippers/buttons apparently equals more skin-tight clothes than I'm really comfortable seeing, especially on people who aren't built for 'em.

[Ronald Brak]

Besides, no zippers/buttons apparently equals more skin-tight clothes than I'm really comfortable seeing, especially on people who aren't built for 'em.

I don't think they have fitness tests to remain in Starfleet in the Star Trek universe. They just make the uniforms out of Spandex to force everyone to lay off the junk food. Or wear a girdle like Shatner.

[HenrikOlsen]

Togas. Every third Star Trek (TOS) episode had people in togas (togi??). Living as I do near the coast, the sea breezes would be...disturbing.
That's only because you think of wearing a toga as "take a bedsheet and wrap it around your naked body." It's not.

[tofu]

And don't forget 2010 where Jupiter gets turned into a sun. Don't you think One sun hot enough? Imagine being roasted from both sides.

Been a few years since I read it, but I seem to recall that Lucifer was only about as bright as a full moon, and did not add any appreciable heat to Earth. Note that the sun is "only" 93 million miles away. Jupiter at closest approach to the sun is 741 million miles. So it can't get much closer to us than 650 million miles - around 7 times further from us than the sun, and it's much smaller than the sun.

On the subject of "I'm glad it's not real" in Clarke's 3001... ***spoiler alert*** we learn that in 2001 the monolith had sent a report about humanity to its makers (who had after all, given man the gift of intelligence) The makers were not going to be happy with the way we turned out, being so warlike and all, and would have decided our fate in a millisecond. Since they made us, it was their responsibility to clean up the mess. Ironically, the monolith had sent its report via radio waves, which took 500 years to reach the makers near the galactic core. 500 years later, in 3001, came the reply.

And that's all the spoiler you get :-)

[weatherc]

Note that the sun is "only" 93 million miles away. Jupiter at closest approach to the sun is 741 million miles.Actually, Jupiter is about 500 million miles from the Sun, putting it at about 400 million miles from Earth at its closest approach (very round numbers here). But, it would still be too far away and too small to affect us very much.

[Ronald Brak]

Actually, Jupiter is about 500 million miles from the Sun...

Tofu nailed the correct figure for kilometers, not miles. Darn imperial system! (I can't respect a measurement system that is enforced by Darth Vader and his imperial stormtroopers.)

[AGN Fuel]

That's only because you think of wearing a toga as "take a bedsheet and wrap it around your naked body." It's not.

Henrik, you and I obviously went to different parties..... :lol:

[greenfeather]

Speaking of Togas reminds me...... Spandex, it seems in SciFi there's far too much time spent living your daily life in spandex.... some of us don't look that great in spandex.... ad I think my butt likes to eat the stuff anyway.

Especially the spandex JUMPSUITS!!!

[Roy Batty]

Henrik, you and I obviously went to different parties..... :lol:

Toga! Toga! Toga!
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050816/050816_animalhouse_vlg_3p.widec.jpg):D

[Chip]

Togas. Every third Star Trek (TOS) episode had people in togas (togi??)...

Yes, but some of the costumes on the original Star Trek were, ummm, really nice (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/STLittleGirls.jpg).

[Gillianren]

Yes, but some of the costumes on the original Star Trek were, ummm, really nice (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/STLittleGirls.jpg).

D'you want to try wearing them?

[Roy Batty]

I not sure Chip would like to wear women's clothes? :D

[Chip]

Nope – just looking - (gawking.) Me? I don't think I fit well into those outfits. ;)

[Gillianren]

Kind of my point. Those outfits are no fun to the people wearing them.

Well, I suppose the old ST women's uniforms would be fine--as a shirt.

[Roy Batty]

Well I never had a problem with Urhurararararara's (slaps me self round face) costume :D

[Chip]

Kind of my point. Those outfits are no fun to the people wearing them. Well, I suppose the old ST women's uniforms would be fine--as a shirt.
I was referring to Sherry Jackson’s outfit, created by Bill Theiss, which likely remains the most famous in Star Trek lore.
Wiki Article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Jackson)

[Van Rijn]

I was referring to Sherry Jackson’s outfit, created by Bill Theiss, which likely remains the most famous in Star Trek lore.
Wiki Article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Jackson)

And she was (or was at least playing) a female android. Comfort-optional clothing for actresses or androids? So what else is new? :)

[HenrikOlsen]

The constume I'm reminded of when talking Theiss designs is the faux classical greek one worn by Leslie Parrish in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" which basically consisted of a single piece of cloth fixed to the belt, then draped across one shoulder to fall free at the back.
According to the actress it was surprisingly confortable, and felt secure against accidental slips.
According to everyone else it looked like it would fall off at any minute and they couldn't keep their eyes off it. :)

I couldn't find a reference picture. :(

[nomuse]

I was reading an article on the TNG costumes, and apparently the stretch material of the first season jumpsuits was giving the entire cast back-aches. They were redesigned for later seasons so they didn't have stretchy material pulling down on the actor's shoulders through the length of the day's shooting. Was actually a serious problem.

Re another experience with spandex-like costumes -- Lynda Carter wore hose, but _not_ because she was ashamed of her legs. The costume had a little tendency to, um, ride up.

[SeanF]

The constume I'm reminded of when talking Theiss designs is the faux classical greek one worn by Leslie Parrish in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" which basically consisted of a single piece of cloth fixed to the belt, then draped across one shoulder to fall free at the back.
According to the actress it was surprisingly confortable, and felt secure against accidental slips.
According to everyone else it looked like it would fall off at any minute and they couldn't keep their eyes off it. :)

I couldn't find a reference picture. :(
Here (http://www.posterchoice.com/a/photographs/L/Leslie_Parrish/product_43068.html?s=827649150000000000000000) you go.

:)

[HenrikOlsen]

Here (http://www.posterchoice.com/a/photographs/L/Leslie_Parrish/product_43068.html?s=827649150000000000000000) you go.

:)
Yay! That's the one.

[Mellow]

By the way.... Spandex jumpsuits... agreed they're bad, but thank you Wilma Dearing....