View Full Version : Does anyone know if this is a real place and if yes, where it is?
HenrikOlsen
10-December-2006, 10:20 PM
It's a photo of a painting, plus a closeup of the signature in case that might give any hints.
TriangleMan
11-December-2006, 10:38 AM
The signature is "The Camel" in spanish, if that helps. I've never heard of this painter though.
Musashi
12-December-2006, 12:26 AM
The building looks mission style to me. I would start looking in southern North America and Central America I guess.
HenrikOlsen
15-December-2006, 01:43 AM
I have to say I'm slightly disappointed at the response, though I have to say that it is in a sense also understandable.
In my somewhat idealized impression of the board I had expected people to react to the challenge, rather than ignoring it, but I may have been misled by the "please identify this spider/bug" threads.
Note that this post is really just a "Why do you answer their question and not mine" whine, and should probably be seen as me having too high expectations of the people here, rather than a real complaint.
It's just that I bragged to my girlfriend that if there was any way to figure out where that place was supposed to be, then asking here was the way, and you're making me look bad. :)
sarongsong
15-December-2006, 02:31 AM
How did this "photo of a painting" come to your attention?
Jigsaw
15-December-2006, 02:42 AM
Your confidence in us is touching, if perhaps a trifle misplaced. :D
Now, "The Camel", or "Camel", could be the painter's name--or nickname--as well as the name of the bridge, or the title of the painting. It could also be something that somebody painted on there, randomly, for their own reasons, at any time in the past.
No famous artists or paintings called "El Camello" turn up on Google, other than a reference to somebody on eBay selling a Cuban painting titled (http://item.express.ebay.com/Art_Mixed-Media-Art__Cuban-Original-Painting-El-Camello-Havana-Cuba-Art_W0QQitemZ190038802309QQihZ009QQddnZArtQQadnZMi xedQ20MediaQ20ArtQQcmdZExpressItem) "El Camello", which bears no resemblance to your painting, being a painting of a vehicle of some kind, and it explains, "El Camello is a kind of Cuban bus."
If I had to guess, I'd guess the bridge is outside Havana someplace.
Titana
15-December-2006, 03:01 AM
It's a photo of a painting, plus a closeup of the signature in case that might give any hints.
I looked it up billions of times on Google search, Yahoo search...etc. And nothing comes up. I looked for painters by the name Camello and also check out many paint gallerys (bridge paintings) that are on the web and nothing.
And referring to what place it might be and where, well ,that is a little tough, there are so many places that may look like that one. The only place that comes to my mind when I see it is Venice...but could be anywhere really..
Titana...;)
JohnD
15-December-2006, 04:20 PM
Henrik,
You're setting us a puzzle and restricting us to only two clues - the picture, and the signature.
How about telling a bit more about it?
Where did you get it, is there anything on the back, have you had it out of the frame to see if there is anything there, is it in oils or water colour, etc. etc?
I think it is a fanciful scene, that bridge is so wide and thin, it would be a noted feat of architecture in any community. But lets see - it's either on the Mediterranean, or on fresh water - no tide marks, though the bansk beyond look almost tidal (again - fanciful?)
But I'm wrong, it does exist and here is a photo. It is the Chapel of St.Nicholas on the St.Benezet Bridge at Avignon - the original Pont d'Avignon. But I'm right too, it's on fresh water, and a river too, so the banks would be bare up to the flood line. And it is fanciful - the bridge is rather more substantial in real life.
I wonder if the picture you have is after this picture in the Fine Arts Museum of San Francisco: http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?keywords=%41%72%63%68%65%73&artist=&country=&period=&sort=&start=11&position=14&record=44492
But I'm just showing off now!
John
01101001
15-December-2006, 04:24 PM
Bridge at Avignon
Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse, l'on y danse
Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse tous en rond
Les beaux messieurs font comm' ça
Et puis encore comm' ça
Wikipedia: Pont Saint-Bénezet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_d'Avignon)
Titana
15-December-2006, 04:45 PM
Henrik,
You're setting us a puzzle and restricting us to only two clues - the picture, and the signature.
How about telling a bit more about it?
Where did you get it, is there anything on the back, have you had it out of the frame to see if there is anything there, is it in oils or water colour, etc. etc?
I think it is a fanciful scene, that bridge is so wide and thin, it would be a noted feat of architecture in any community. But lets see - it's either on the Mediterranean, or on fresh water - no tide marks, though the bansk beyond look almost tidal (again - fanciful?)
But I'm wrong, it does exist and here is a photo. It is the Chapel of St.Nicholas on the St.Benezet Bridge at Avignon - the original Pont d'Avignon. But I'm right too, it's on fresh water, and a river too, so the banks would be bare up to the flood line. And it is fanciful - the bridge is rather more substantial in real life.
I wonder if the picture you have is after this picture in the Fine Arts Museum of San Francisco:http://search.famsf.org:8080/search.shtml?keywords=Arches&artist=&country=&period=&sort=&start=11
But I'm just showing off now!
John
Cool you found it......How?
Titana
JohnD
15-December-2006, 04:55 PM
'Coz I'm a genius data miner!
Sorry, that is bragging!
I searched for various combinations of words that described the architecture that I saw.
Started with 'Spanish church bridge'
Tried to refine with 'octagonal', but that was a dead end, as was a diversion into 'Spanish architecture' and other qualifiers.
Eventually found it through just 'chapel bridge'.
You just haveto let your mind wander, find associations and mental links and use those.
Google images was not helpful.
John
sarongsong
15-December-2006, 05:09 PM
...Wikipedia: Pont Saint-Bénezet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_d'Avignon)...The bridge was also the site of devotion by the Rhône boatmen, whose patron saint was Saint Nicholas...Ho, Ho, Ho.
Good going, JohnD!
jseefcoot
15-December-2006, 05:17 PM
I agree with Titana, the bridge looks Italian, or maybe Spanish. It's from the Mediterranean at the least.
I tried the following searches:
bridge + painting
bridge + camel
bridge + camello
bridge + ep camello (thought maybe the 'L' could also be a 'P')
bridge + el camello
bridge + italy
bridge + spain
bridge + stone
I got the most promising results from the last search, but there are far too many results for me to peruse them all. I only went to the tenth page on any one search. They were all Googled.
Bridges with this kind of shape are typically called 'camel-back' bridges. The painting may refer to a locally known bridge, hence the (somewhat vague) name El Camello would be a sufficient title, if it is the title and not the artist. While not impossible, the bridge in the painting is probably not from North America. It may be in Central or South America, but my money's on the Spanish Mediterranean somewhere. The facade on the building, the red tile roof, it all points that way. But the boats on the left side of the painting scream 'Venice' to me.
SeanF
15-December-2006, 06:20 PM
While not impossible, the bridge in the painting is probably not from North America. It may be in Central or South America, but my money's on the Spanish Mediterranean somewhere. The facade on the building, the red tile roof, it all points that way. But the boats on the left side of the painting scream 'Venice' to me.
I take it you missed JohnD's post above? :)
Grey
15-December-2006, 06:45 PM
Henrik, it might have taken longer you'd hoped, but I trust your girlfriend is now suitably impressed. I certainly am. Nice work, JohnD!
ToSeek
15-December-2006, 10:25 PM
'Coz I'm a genius data miner!
Sorry, that is bragging!
I searched for various combinations of words that described the architecture that I saw.
Started with 'Spanish church bridge'
Tried to refine with 'octagonal', but that was a dead end, as was a diversion into 'Spanish architecture' and other qualifiers.
Eventually found it through just 'chapel bridge'.
You just haveto let your mind wander, find associations and mental links and use those.
Google images was not helpful.
John
The master Googler bows his head before a fellow Enlightened One. ;)
HenrikOlsen
16-December-2006, 09:36 AM
Henrik, it might have taken longer you'd hoped, but I trust your girlfriend is now suitably impressed. I certainly am. Nice work, JohnD!
She is, I just showed her the result.
HenrikOlsen
16-December-2006, 09:37 AM
How did this "photo of a painting" come to your attention?
The painting is on the wall of my girlfriend, I took the photo.
clop
16-December-2006, 10:52 AM
I have to say I'm slightly disappointed at the response, though I have to say that it is in a sense also understandable.
Note that this post is really just a "Why do you answer their question and not mine" whine, and should probably be seen as me having too high expectations of the people here, rather than a real complaint.
I spent at least half an hour trying to find the bridge for you. Don't be so bad-tempered!
clop
Titana
16-December-2006, 05:31 PM
I spent at least half an hour trying to find the bridge for you. Don't be so bad-tempered!
clop
I spent way more than that............at least an hour and a half......:D
Titana
Spacewriter
16-December-2006, 05:33 PM
Do detect a faint whiff of "doing someone's homework"? If not, when one asks a question out loud, directed to no one in particular, it is not a demand that others immediately answer. Particularly if they have no answer to give. Someone DID give an answer, so appreciation is in order...
Having just gotten to this thread, I immediately recognized the scene and was about to answer when I noticed that someone else had. The original question was asked only a few days ago; not everyone gets here all the time, and of those that do, perhaps many had no answer, or didn't see the post, or whatever. So, in the future, OP, a little patience would stand you in good stead.
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