4/29 Truth!

[tofu]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/30collapse.html?ref=us

The government claims that a tanker truck exploded and distroyed this overpass. But we all know that gas doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. This is just another illuminati coverup!

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5246/429trutheb9.jpg

[LurchGS]

oooh! another loony conspiracy I can join!

[RalofTyr]

The bridge was probably poorly constructed.

Maybe they didn't use steel, but recylced WTC material to contruct it...

[Maksutov]

Thermite, my dear Watson, thermite...

[Serenitude]

Just a note for those new here: This is a pun on a common CT theme ;) It is humor, and this is why it is not in the CT forum. Now, please carry on...

[Tog_]

There are obviously buildings nearby, and yet there are no videos on YouTube that show the explosion happen. That alone is suspiscious.

It's also suspiscious that the one side the came loos came loose right by the support, rather than from the middle where there is less support.

No concrete freeway has ever been collapsed due to fire alone.

These freeways are in a major earthquake zone and are built to withstand huge tremmors, yet one single tanker truck explosion drops a whole section of it.

(On a serious note, I'm glad this is no where near as bad as it could have been)

[Gillianren]

Explosive rebar! Explosive rebar!

On a serious note (for once), I know that, when I left, they were talking about retrofitting the entire California freeway system. All things considered, I wouldn't be surprised if they're not done with that particular job yet.

[tofu]

It's also suspiscious that the one side the came loos came loose right by the support, rather than from the middle where there is less support.

great point. Here is what a bridge looks like when it's hit by a bomb:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6548071.stm

Looks the same to me. That is slam dunk proof that the San Fran bridge was destroyed by a hellfire missile launched from a predator drone.

Note also that the people who have been interviewed say, "it sounded like a bomb going off." These people have seen tanker trucks. They've been around tanker trucks their whole life. And they've all seen gas burn. Yet they described this as a bomb.

Come on people, wake up.

[mickal555]

Another onlooker, James Signore, a civil engineer from Oakland, said he had a professional interest in the damage. “I have not seen this kind of wreckage before,” Mr. Signore, 43, said. “And I’m really curious how something this stout could be taken down.”

Aha!

[Tog_]

WOOT! We've got an engineer on our side!

[Swift]

I Bet They Have Not Checked For Radiation, Proving That It Was A Micro-nuclear Bomb!!!!!!!
(I tried doing this in all caps, as is proper for all CTs, but the software changed it - obviously another sign of the conspiracy)

[NEOWatcher]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/30collapse.html?ref=us

The government claims that a tanker truck exploded and distroyed this overpass. But we all know that gas doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.
How come the article has all sorts of pictures, but only of the aftermath, not of the actual accident or fire?
And, if the fire was so hot, then why do I see intact road reflectors in the pictures?

[tofu]

this is fun. I think we should start trolling the loose change forums with this - but then, they might actually go along with us instead of realizing we're making fun of them.

BTW, I actually didn't think of the 9/11 connection, and I didn't make the image in the OP. I saw it on another forum and just now I heard someone on the radio say that we need to call Rosey and let her know there's another coverup going on. So this idea is gaining a lot of traction.

[Fazor]

You're all missing the bigger picture. There was no bridge. The CIA flew a fighter jet DISGUISED as a bridge into the tanker to further the fuel shortage so they could raise the prices of gas again! This shouldn't be much of a suprise tho, seeing as "Mr. President" comes from an oil family.

[Swift]

In the photo in the first post, one fellow is wearing a hardhat, the other isn't. Now, if you need to wear a hardhat, safety regulations require everyone to wear one. Obviously, this isn't a real photo and the two people were photoshopped in. I also notice that the area under the bridge is in shadow, but the two men are not creating shadows - obviously this was all filmed in a studio.

[Jim]

We had a similar incident here in Houston just a couple of days before the one in California. The ramp was damaged and some rebar warped, but didn't collapse.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/13209749/detail.html?subid=22100412&qs=1;bp=t

Probably ours was just practice for the "real" thing in CA.

[Swift]

If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel, why didn't it melt the asphalt? Asphalt melts at 250 to 300F (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99259.htm). Steel melts at 2500F (http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html). Why isn't all the asphalt in that photo melted? Obviously it was a bomb.


(gosh - this is so much fun)

[korjik]

Jim, that is just proof that there is a conspiracy! The Houston accident was obviously a test run by the government.

I'm just glad that there is at least one overpass in Houston without the explosive rebar installed.....oh, wait, they are probably going to install it now!

[TrAI]

Heh, I just saw an article on this incident, and I got a strong feeling of certainty that someone would have made a thread like this here...

[NEOWatcher]

If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel, why didn't it melt the asphalt? Asphalt melts at 250 to 300F (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99259.htm). Steel melts at 2500F (http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html). Why isn't all the asphalt in that photo melted? Obviously it was a bomb.


(gosh - this is so much fun)

Come on Swift, you of all people should know that explosives can't bring down a bridge.

( Seperate thread here with proof (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=57984))

[Doodler]

If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel, why didn't it melt the asphalt? Asphalt melts at 250 to 300F (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99259.htm). Steel melts at 2500F (http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html). Why isn't all the asphalt in that photo melted? Obviously it was a bomb.


(gosh - this is so much fun)

Man, if I meet someone talking like this, I'm so going to jail for aggravated assault...maybe even assault with intent.

The steel didn't melt, it softened. Some of the bolts probably melted, causing them to shear. The asphalt wouldn't melt immediately because it was the gas was flowing across the surface. We've been through this a hundred times, gas doesn't burn, the vapor burns. A few tens of thousands of gallons flowing on a highway overpass isn't going to melt what lies beneath it. It flows across the surface, and where it trickles down, the flames overwhelm it and you get point connection failures in the cracks, and the bridge fails right where it did, at the joints.

[NEOWatcher]

Man, if I meet someone talking like this, I'm so going to jail for aggravated assault...maybe even assault with intent.
Well; considering this thread is mostly a joke, I don't think that your explaination is really necessary.

Besides, wasn't the accident on the lower level, and the level above is what collapsed?

Edit to add... By the way, somebody started a real CT thread over here (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=978286#post978286).

[tofu]

you guys, this is seriously scary. Take a look at this pic from the SF sentinel:

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=1629

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/explosion-6.JPG

An unmarked vehicle (possibly CIA) is shown next to some rubble and the rubble has been covered by plastic. What evidence are they hiding?? They**must** be hiding something because otherwise there is no need to cover up piles of rubble.

[Serenitude]

This all needs to be posted at loose change, just to see the reaction ;)

[Donnie B.]

No Jews died when that bridge collapsed. Every Jew in the Bay Area was warned in advance to stay off the freeway yesterday.

[peteshimmon]

Did anyone notice a chap running from a crop
dusting biplane?...

[Fazor]

No, but I saw a certian texan straddling a bomb while it fell through the clouds, waiving his fedorah wildly and babling about his masterful strategery. You know, the usual.

[Tog_]

An unmarked vehicle (possibly CIA) is shown next to some rubble and the rubble has been covered by plastic. What evidence are they hiding?? They**must** be hiding something because otherwise there is no need to cover up piles of rubble.

I don't see an unmarked vehicle in the picture. I DO see the nose of an F-18, or maybe a B-1, F-4, A-10, gulfstream, or Sopwith Camel. It's so obvious. I can't believe you think anyone would believe for a second that there is an unmarked vehicle there.

That tarp is covering the debris they trucked in but didn't get a chance to distribute yet.

[ad hominem]

Just a note for those new here: This is a pun on a common CT theme ;) It is humor, and this is why it is not in the CT forum. Now, please carry on...

that is what you would like us to think is it not but you cant fool us so easily

[Serenitude]

Hey, the NSA doesn't pay me to egg you guys on... ;)

[korjik]

I don't see an unmarked vehicle in the picture. I DO see the nose of an F-18, or maybe a B-1, F-4, A-10, gulfstream, or Sopwith Camel. It's so obvious. I can't believe you think anyone would believe for a second that there is an unmarked vehicle there.

That tarp is covering the debris they trucked in but didn't get a chance to distribute yet.

What the debris is is easy to figure. Da Gub'mint went and made an exact duplicate of the truck (down to vin numbers) then blew it up and shipped the bits to be spread around to advance the lie.

[NEOWatcher]

That tarp is covering the debris they trucked in but didn't get a chance to distribute yet.
I believe you are right, because a fire that intense should still be hot, and would have melted a tarp. Proof that it was a quick flash.

[NEOWatcher]

In addition... I found the motive.
It's the GW advocates forcing the public to go with mass transit.

It seems to have worked. 280k switch to public transit even when the highway carries only 75k per day.
Bay Area commuters switch to public transit (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html)

[Trebuchet]

It seems to have worked. 280k switch to public transit even when the highway carries only 75k per day.


Uh, that's not what the article says. You're even reading like an authentic CT'er!

[mugaliens]

I Bet They Have Not Checked For Radiation, Proving That It Was A Micro-nuclear Bomb!!!!!!!
(I tried doing this in all caps, as is proper for all CTs, but the software changed it - obviously another sign of the conspiracy)

Sure - a suitcase-sized biconical mini-nuke (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101011029-180495,00.html)....

Like THAT'll ever be possible...

[mugaliens]

Has anyone mentioned that only one side of the concrete post is heavily charred, which, if I'm not mistaken, occurs only to wooden structures, or that burning gasoline produces light, not heavy, carbon deposits?