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Palomar
25-July-2007, 10:58 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070725/ap_on_fe_st/death_cat

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Oscar the cat seems to have an uncanny knack for predicting when nursing home patients are going to die, by curling up next to them during their final hours. His accuracy, observed in 25 cases, has led the staff to call family members once he has chosen someone. It usually means they have less than four hours to live.

"He doesn't make too many mistakes. He seems to understand when patients are about to die," said Dr. David Dosa

The 2-year-old feline was adopted as a kitten and grew up in a third-floor dementia unit at the Steere House Nursing and Rehabilitation Center.

After about six months, the staff noticed Oscar would make his own rounds, just like the doctors and nurses. He'd sniff and observe patients, then sit beside people who would wind up dying in a few hours.

Dosa said Oscar seems to take his work seriously and is generally aloof. "This is not a cat that's friendly to people," he said.

Oscar is better at predicting death than the people who work there

While observing one patient, Teno said she noticed the woman wasn't eating, was breathing with difficulty and that her legs had a bluish tinge, signs that often mean death is near. Oscar wouldn't stay inside the room though, so Teno thought his streak was broken. Instead, it turned out the doctor's prediction was roughly 10 hours too early. Sure enough, during the patient's final two hours, nurses told Teno that Oscar joined the woman at her bedside.

:o

Most families are grateful for the advanced warning, although one wanted Oscar out of the room while a family member died. When Oscar is put outside, he paces and meows his displeasure.

Applying science to Oscar's behavior:

No one's certain if Oscar's behavior is scientifically significant or points to a cause. Teno wonders if the cat notices telltale scents or reads something into the behavior of the nurses who raised him.

Nicholas Dodman, who directs an animal behavioral clinic at the Tufts University Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine and has read Dosa's article, said the only way to know is to carefully document how Oscar divides his time between the living and dying.

If Oscar really is a furry grim reaper, it's also possible his behavior could be driven by self-centered pleasures like a heated blanket placed on a dying person, Dodman said.

Um...yeah. :rolleyes: That would be a cat for you. But are the blankets placed after Oscar lays down beside them?

Nursing home staffers aren't concerned with explaining Oscar, so long as he gives families a better chance at saying goodbye to the dying.

Oscar recently received a wall plaque publicly commending his "compassionate hospice care."

Awwww. ;)

Peter Wilson
25-July-2007, 11:45 PM
But can he catch mice?

mike alexander
26-July-2007, 07:05 AM
I woke up this morning with the cat sleeping on my abdomen. Hm.


At risk of being a spoilsport, has anyone checked to see if one of the attendants is maybe helping some of the patients along? Maybe the cat likes the smell of strychnine.

Damien Evans
26-July-2007, 07:18 AM
I woke up this morning with my dog licking me in the face

Ronald Brak
26-July-2007, 08:20 AM
There are several other possible explanations. The most likely one is the cat is killing the patients by stealing their vital life essence. (Cats can do that you know.) Or, like many cats she hates making eye contact with primates and finds people who are nearly dead less annoying because of this. Or the feline may be a furry sack of pathogens. But the most likely explanation is that people are stupid. There are people in this world who are convinced that they win more times than they lose when they play slot machines, despite the fact that most of their personal electronics and applicance are currently located within a local pawn shop, so it quite possible that people are completely wrong about the correlation. And even if the correlation is true it could be completely due to chance and the activity will stop now that someone has noticed it. (Or quite possibly continue in people's minds.)

Personally I think there must be some bizarre supernatural conspiriousy at work in the world because according to my calculations there are not enough bizarre conincidences occurring. Unfortunately I haven't has much success in attracting a band of woo woo followers with this idea.

mfumbesi
26-July-2007, 10:05 AM
TUnfortunately I haven't has much success in attracting a band of woo woo followers with this idea.

I am a woooo woooo, I will follow you, If you pay me lots of money :lol: .
Seriously though you made a valid point about the cat being possibly a furry sack of pathogens .
I also liked mike alexander's point on the cat liking the smell of strychnine.

mfumbesi
26-July-2007, 10:10 AM
Double post

Ronald Brak
26-July-2007, 10:16 AM
I am a woooo woooo, I will follow you, If you pay me lots of money .

But it's supposed to work the other way!

Maksutov
26-July-2007, 10:38 AM
My ex-wife had a cat named Oscar.

It didn't work.

mfumbesi
26-July-2007, 11:42 AM
But it's supposed to work the other way!
Ohhh..
Ok I am sorry, If you make a once of payment of say $100million (US $), I might even consider relocating to your temple of choice :liar:.

Palomar
26-July-2007, 02:00 PM
Well golly. I guess the inability of Oscar to attract "wooo-wooo" followers building Temples in his honor -- and the fact there's interest in trying to find out scientifically why he behaves as he does (including the possibility it's all sheer coincidence) -- is proof enough that there are more people with brains out there than snobby ultraskeptics want to believe. ;)

Swift
26-July-2007, 02:19 PM
That's interesting, because there is a related Internet phenomenon, that when a cat picture is posted in a thread, that the thread will die within two postings.
http://www.sugarpet.net/oscar.jpg

Moose
26-July-2007, 02:36 PM
It doesn't kill the thread, it just turns it into Caturday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcat).

Glutomoto
27-July-2007, 12:13 AM
That's interesting, because there is a related Internet phenomenon, that when a cat picture is posted in a thread, that the thread will die within two postings.

seeing that image reminds me of my last cat scan.

:)

Celestial Mechanic
27-July-2007, 05:04 AM
Third post after the posting of a kitty picture! :D

Edited to add: Congratulations, Swift, on passing 8,000 posts!

Maksutov
27-July-2007, 06:02 AM
Second posting after the catastrophe no one noticed.

The Grim Mouser has struck again!

BTW, one thing I didn't notice in the reports. There was no description of precisely where Oscar "curled up". If he tends to do so over the mouth and nose, there just might be a cause and effect situation there.


Meanwhile, WTG, Swift!

Palomar
27-July-2007, 11:48 AM
An article about Oscar is going to appear in an upcoming edition of the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine. Heard that on last evening's news. :)

Swift
27-July-2007, 02:08 PM
Third post after the posting of a kitty picture! :D

Edited to add: Congratulations, Swift, on passing 8,000 posts!
Thanks guys. And I would like to thank all the little people, without whom Dorothy would never have gotten back to Kansas.

I guess we disproved the "Thread Death" theory though. ;)

Sticks
27-July-2007, 03:16 PM
Forget Oscar

Beware the tabby called Jack (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5067912.stm) :eek:

gwiz
27-July-2007, 03:48 PM
There are several other possible explanations. The most likely one is the cat is killing the patients by stealing their vital life essence. (Cats can do that you know.)
Vaguely on the subject, anyone read Fritz Leiber's short story "Spacetime for Springers"?

mike alexander
27-July-2007, 03:51 PM
Aha! that's the problem. Oscar is looking for the coffee.

Ronald Brak
27-July-2007, 03:59 PM
Vaguely on the subject, anyone read Fritz Leiber's short story "Spacetime for Springers"?

No, but I am familiar with the story of the bomber pilot who flew 40 missions over Nazi occupied Europe only to die when a cat slept on his face the night before he was due to go home.

Peter Wilson
27-July-2007, 05:44 PM
That's interesting, because there is a related Internet phenomenon, that when a cat picture is posted in a thread, that the thread will die within two postings.
Ever watch The Sixth Sense?





:eek:

mike alexander
27-July-2007, 08:22 PM
I should have added that Lieber's story is one of my all-time favorites, just so perfectly visualized and constructed that the surface simplicity can fool you. I always cry at the end, even though I know how it's going to come out and have read it at least two dozen times. The only other author who can always do that to me is Bradbury.

publiusr
10-August-2007, 11:03 PM
www.mycathatesyou.com