Trumpet Universe

[Amal]

Truth seekers,

I would like to invite you to

www.funneluniverse.com
Or www.trumpetuniverse.org

Where there are real answers to these questions:

Where did the universe come from?
Was the universe created from nothing?
Who is older the earth or the universe?
Why is the universe accelerating?
What is the fate of the universe?
Is the universe a hologram?
What is time and eternity?
Where did we come from?
What is our purpose on earth?
Why are death and life created?
Who lives on earth and in the universe?

Where the universe is in the trumpet,
Where string theory found God’s words,
Where the extra dimensions are the seven heavens or stages of creation,
from where the strings, information or spirit are manifesting and operating.

[Peter Wilson]

Truth seekers,

I would like to invite you to

www.funneluniverse.com
Or www.trumpetuniverse.org

Where there are real answers to these questions...
Welcome, Amal.

And I invite to read ATM rules B4 posting here.

BAUT is about scientific answers, not "real answers." And scientific questions, by the way. Some of your questions are more philosophical than scientific.

If you have an alternative to the accepted mainstream explanation of an astronomical observation, this is the place to offer it up. But its not the place to advertise "real answers" promulgated by others.

[publiusr]

So Count Basie was Q?

You know something? That actually makes a lot of sense....

[astrocat]

Truth seekers,

I would like to invite you to

www.funneluniverse.com
Or www.trumpetuniverse.org

Where there are real answers to these questions:

Where did the universe come from?
Was the universe created from nothing?
Who is older the earth or the universe?
Why is the universe accelerating?
What is the fate of the universe?
Is the universe a hologram?
What is time and eternity?
Where did we come from?
What is our purpose on earth?
Why are death and life created?
Who lives on earth and in the universe?

Where the universe is in the trumpet,
Where string theory found God’s words,
Where the extra dimensions are the seven heavens or stages of creation,
from where the strings, information or spirit are manifesting and operating.I admire your guts. I should have answererd this Thread a very long timeago. I have been remiss! Forgive me, please.

Your questions are so important. Why isn't anybody else asking them? I don't believe in God, but I am a strong supporter of Jesus, and it's almost like he's telling me to answer this thread.... I'm so lost - maybe you have some answers?

[Amal]

Welcome, Amal.

And I invite to read ATM rules B4 posting here.

BAUT is about scientific answers, not "real answers." And scientific questions, by the way. Some of your questions are more philosophical than scientific.


If you have an alternative to the accepted mainstream explanation of an astronomical observation, this is the place to offer it up. But its not the place to advertise "real answers" promulgated by others.



Hello Peter,


What good are Scientific answers if they are not real?

Philosophy religion or science, Truth is one and covers all.

I hope Astronomy will be able some day to see with a huge telescope that the Universe is a Trumpet held by God.




You know something? That actually makes a lot of sense....


Hello Publisher,

Most theories were greeted with skepticism and rejection, until they generated enough supporters and evidence, including Einstein’s theory of General Relativity, it took four years and an experiment to verify during an eclipse.

Ulm University in 2004 adopted the funnel shape (Based on studying the Background Microwave Radiation).
Big Bang glow hints at funnel-shaped Universe
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4879

[Amal]

I admire your guts. I should have answererd this Thread a very long timeago. I have been remiss! Forgive me, please.

Your questions are so important. Why isn't anybody else asking them? I don't believe in God, but I am a strong supporter of Jesus, and it's almost like he's telling me to answer this thread.... I'm so lost - maybe you have some answers?


Many of them have been asked before:

Check Discover issue September 2004
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep/plucking-the-strings-of-relativity

6 Big questions before the final theory,
These questions get at the heart of space and time, and set a high bar for relativity’s successor.
1- How is gravity reconciled with quantum mechanics?
2- What are space and time and where did they come from?
3- What happened before the big bang?
4- What lies at the heart of a black hole?
5- Why is the expansion of the universe speeding up and not slowing down?
6- What is the ultimate fate of the universe?

and check Hyperspace and the Elegant Universe for their explanations of the mysteries that bar the emergence of the Final Theory.

May Jesus bless you, and lead you to the Ultimate Light.

[Maksutov]

So Count Basie was Q?....Nah, where the universe is in the trumpet, it was/is/will be Dizzy Gillespie! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_Gillespie)

But, unfortunately, "Trumpet Universe" just doesn't, like, cut it, man.

Now, if'n you're talkin' 'bout a Strumpet Universe, then, like, there's some heavy stuff goin' down there, man. Can ya dig it?

[Chip]

I recommend the Jack Benny movie The Horn Blows at Midnight (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037790/). It's a 1940s comedy that answers the philosophical questions posed here. (Jack plays Gabriel's trumpet instead of his usual violin.) The opening shots of the endless celestial orchestra playing a super-symphony are quite fun. The film is full of clever dialog and delightful situations. :D

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[publiusr]

Real music of the Sphere--though I'm a Steve Roach fan myself.

So what would Jack Benny be in the cosmos---a gas giant? No--that was Bilko--I get them all confused.

"Well!"

[mugaliens]

Ok, Amal - I'm tired of seeing this thread exist without some real answers to your obviously well-intended post.

So, one by one, here goes (please note, some humor in here, but I always answer the question to the best of my ability.

Where there are real answers to these questions:

Where did the universe come from?

We don't know. We have some theories, based upon a lot of observed data, but no definitive proof.

Was the universe created from nothing?

This violates our current understanding of causality, but probably not. However, in the big bang (or brane, rip, tear, etc.) conditions might have been/are different.

Who is older the earth or the universe?

Who on Earth? No one. Who else? I have a theory, but that violates the terms of the forum.

Why is the universe accelerating?

Most astronomers believe it's dark energy. I believe Darth Vadar forgot to drop out of warp. No, actually some Jawa tinkered with an R2 unit and SHAZZAM!

Ok, I really believe it's because c has changed since the universe began which cause an apparent redshift, leading to the illusion that the universe is accelerating when it's actually decelerating. Or it could be that as it expands, less matter fills each point's "observable sphere," as as the stars at the edge travel beyong the Hubble limit, their gravitational attraction is lost to the effect of keeping it together. It could also be that redshift is porportunal to a reduction in gravity, just as it's proportional to a reduction in photonic wavelegth.

Hmmm... I'll have to start another thread on this one...

What is the fate of the universe?

We don't know.

Is the universe a hologram?

No. Holograms reflect light. They do not emit light. And since they were an invention of man, it's unlikely someone else erected one. Furthermore, our original deep space probes are still going, way beyond Pluto. That's a might large hologram. And no, holograms are static. They do not creating changing events like pulsars and supernova. And no, holograms don't emit neutrinos as we observed with at least one supernova event.

So, no. The universe is not a hologram.

What is time and eternity?

Time is the distance/velocity it takes me to travel from point A to point B. The upper limit the difference between two points in space is defined by the the velocity of light. Eternity encompasses the beginning and end of time.

Where did we come from?

A sperm and an egg that were brought together by Mom and Dad.

What is our purpose on earth?

Same thing as every other living organizing on the planet: survive and procreate.

Why are death and life created?

Life is created. Death just sort of happens when the life-time entropy arrow hits bottom.

Who lives on earth...

We do.

...and in the universe?

We do. Possibly others, but we don't know that yet.

[Amal]

We don't know. We have some theories, based upon a lot of observed data, but no definitive proof.

The universe was a primordial cloud, a mixture of earth fire and water.


This violates our current understanding of causality, but probably not. However, in the big bang (or brane, rip, tear, etc.) conditions might have been/are different.

Energy can be transformed but never created or destroyed; God transformed the primordial energy and created the universe.

Who on Earth? No one. Who else? I have a theory, but that violates the terms of the forum.


Another conclusion from the same basic principal, the observed universe was created from the earth or dust that was in the cloud; Planet Earth then, the dust that was in the cloud, preceded the creation of the universe.


Most astronomers believe it's dark energy. I believe Darth Vadar forgot to drop out of warp. No, actually some Jawa tinkered with an R2 unit and SHAZZAM!


Ok, I really believe it's because c has changed since the universe began which cause an apparent redshift, leading to the illusion that the universe is accelerating when it's actually decelerating. Or it could be that as it expands, less matter fills each point's "observable sphere," as as the stars at the edge travel beyong the Hubble limit, their gravitational attraction is lost to the effect of keeping it together. It could also be that redshift is porportunal to a reduction in gravity, just as it's proportional to a reduction in photonic wavelegth.

Hmmm... I'll have to start another thread on this one...


You will soon hit on some big theory here.
But consider the probability that the universe might be on a detour from its original acceleration (Crunching)


We don't know.


Again the answer is in the previous question, it seems that when the main principal is correct all data can be derived from it.


No. Holograms reflect light. They do not emit light. And since they were an invention of man, it's unlikely someone else erected one. Furthermore, our original deep space probes are still going, way beyond Pluto. That's a might large hologram. And no, holograms are static. They do not creating changing events like pulsars and supernova. And no, holograms don't emit neutrinos as we observed with at least one supernova event.

So, no. The universe is not a hologram.


You won this one, but it is because there are no means to compare this passing reality with the eternal realm.


Time is the distance/velocity it takes me to travel from point A to point B. The upper limit the difference between two points in space is defined by the the velocity of light. Eternity encompasses the beginning and end of time.


And you won this one too, I should rephrase the question though: How did time evolve from eternity? The answer to this is linked to the creation of death.


A sperm and an egg that were brought together by Mom and Dad.


Again you are right but that is one third of the answer only, before sperm we were dust in the Earth, and that dust came from the primordial cloud of elements that preceeded the creation of the Universe.


Same thing as every other living organizing on the planet: survive and procreate.


Without “Organizing” I would have felt disappointed here. Our purpose is to learn who we are and what the universe is, and our role in it, and prepare for later; our share in co-creating and enjoying heaven.



Life is created. Death just sort of happens when the life-time entropy arrow hits bottom.


To be separated from eternity, required the creation of death and time! Death was created for a reason, to test and prepare us in this created life for Eternity .


We do.


We and our good and bad allies and creations, consider Angels and devils; Beings that eluded the finest microscopes of Physics and Quantum physicists.


We do. Possibly others, but we don't know that yet.[/QUOTE]


Right. But seeing how God created this incredible beauty and variety on earth from a primordial cloud, and how precise, generous and well budgeted his plan is, I do not think that God would waste anything, Knowing that He is the Lord of the Worlds 2: 2, I believe that Heaven will be full with all the interesting and exotic creatures that we can’t imagine.


[QUOTE=mugaliens;1060557]Ok, Amal - I'm tired of seeing this thread exist without some real answers to your obviously well-intended post.

So, one by one, here goes (please note, some humor in here, but I always answer the question to the best of my ability.


Mugaliens, thank you and I would like to invite you again to my website
www.trumpetuniverse.org
Where there are real answers to these questions.