cooking fat-biodiesel smells like burning meat.

[Frog march]

I know someone who uses chipfat-biodiesel(UK) and it smells like burning meat. Perhaps this is because in the UK tallow(beef fat) is used a lot in frying.

Today while walking along the road I smelt it a few times and it seems to me that if too many cars start using the stuff, walking or cycling along the road will be pretty unpleasant.

Would it not be better to burn it in a powerstation? or better yet, the cessation of animal fat for frying, then the oil can be used as animal feed, as it was pre-BSE days.

[Doodler]

Whoa...traffic jams that smell like barbeque? Duuuuuude!! *drool* Almost enough to want to go get stuck in rush hour for aroma therapy...

[NEOWatcher]

Today while walking along the road I smelt it a few times and it seems to me that if too many cars start using the stuff, walking or cycling along the road will be pretty unpleasant.
I doubt that would happen. The market is probably already saturated with the usage of the fats, and intentional production of this for fuel would not be cost effective.
As bio-fuel becomes more common, a lesser and lesser percentage will be used oils, let alone meat fats. The only way this will not happen is if the used oil is already being wasted in a big way, or we will eat a lot more fried food (in a big way).

[novaderrik]

if we're gonna pollute, it might as well smell good.
and there aint much that smells better than cooking meat.

[PetersCreek]

Whoa...traffic jams that smell like barbeque?

If only. But he said beef tallow, didn't he? Any civilized person knows a proper barbecue serves up pork. :whistle: ;)

[Maksutov]

I doubt that would happen. The market is probably already saturated with the usage of the fats,...ROFL!

Only thing missing is that statement being voiced by Poly the unParrot.

[novaderrik]

If only. But he said beef tallow, didn't he? Any civilized person knows a proper barbecue serves up pork. :whistle: ;)
pork? a REAL barbecue involves several huge slices of steak getting seared over a warm bed of good charcoal with a little bit of apple or mesquite wood thrown in for good measure..
has anyone else noticed that most of the people that would want to use cooking grease to fuel our diesel powered vehicles are probably people that are opposed to killing and eating animals themselves?
i didn't say ALL, but i'd bet a good chunk of them only eat plants..

[Extravoice]

I have a coworker who converted an old VW Golf to run on veggie oil. I can confirm that it smelled pretty bad if you were behind his vehicle when he stepped on the accelerator. It smelled neither like "French fries" nor cooking meat, but like burning vegetable oil (go figure).

He recently sold the car on eBay for a ridiculous amount of money, and has upgraded to an old Mercedes Benz, which he converted to use the same fuel.

BTW: Both cars run on both diesel and vegetable oil. He only switches to vegetable oil once the engine has warmed-up, as he pre-heats it using a heat exchanger.

Edited to add: This guy isn't a tree hugger, or vegan. He is, however, a gearhead and has a nice machine shop in his garage.

[PetersCreek]

pork? a REAL barbecue involves several huge slices of steak getting seared over a warm bed of good charcoal with a little bit of apple or mesquite wood thrown in for good measure...

Seared? That's grillin', my friend. Nothing at all wrong with tasty meat hot off the grill...I do it all the time...but let's not confuse that with barbecue. Real 'cue is cooked low and slow with loving care and lots of smoke. Wood smoke isn't just "thrown in for good measure"...it's an essential part of the process. Succulent ribs, pulled pork butt, crunchy bark...can't get that from grillin', no sir.

Oops...this is startin' to sound like a religious discussion. My god of fire versus yours, eh? :lol:

[novaderrik]

we must have a bit of a language thing going on here. Alaskan and Minnesotan are probably two distinct dialects with the same words meaning different things.
'round these parts, barbecuing is anything cooked on the grille- preferably over a "real" fire made from charcoal and/or wood.

[Van Rijn]

Oops...this is startin' to sound like a religious discussion. My god of fire versus yours, eh? :lol:

Sounds like it, but just as long as there isn't an argument over "science fiction" versus skiffy ("scifi") or the definition of "bogus" it should be fine. :lol:

[Van Rijn]

'round these parts, barbecuing is anything cooked on the grille- preferably over a "real" fire made from charcoal and/or wood.

Same here in California, though we might detail what kind of barbecuing is being done, if it wasn't clear from context.

[Ronald Brak]

In Australia it's always, "Throw another shrimp on the barbie." Which is why we have a genetic predisposition to be tall.

[PetersCreek]

we must have a bit of a language thing going on here. Alaskan and Minnesotan are probably two distinct dialects with the same words meaning different things.

Yep, there probably is a language difference...I'm a Southerner married to a Minnesotan...but really, I'm just having fun with the discussion. I'd readily agree that most casual outdoor cooks make little-to-no distinction between grilling and barbecuing. But in general U.S. usage there is a technical difference between the two methods. (ref (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue))

When it comes right down to it though, I'd only consider the difference truly important if someone tried to serve me a pork butt seared on the grill or a lean sirloin steak barbecued for 12 hours. Both are bound to be a bit on the chewy side.

[Whirlpool]

Im getting hungry...

<drools>

[davidlpf]

Im getting hungry...

<drools>
you too.

[Whirlpool]

you too.



pork barbeque kebab and grilled beef steak

[Glom]

I know someone who uses chipfat-biodiesel(UK) and it smells like burning meat. Perhaps this is because in the UK tallow(beef fat) is used a lot in frying.

Today while walking along the road I smelt it a few times and it seems to me that if too many cars start using the stuff, walking or cycling along the road will be pretty unpleasant.

I know! I will get a constant hankering for steak. But the really bad news is the likely increase in stomach ulsers as the smell of yummy food on every street triggers a stomachs everywhere to begin producing that deadly digestive cocktail without any food for it to attack.

or better yet, the cessation of animal fat for frying, then the oil can be used as animal feed, as it was pre-BSE days.

Erm, you do know that turning livestock into cannibals was itself the cause of the BSE crisis. Feeding an animal more animal of its kind sounds very wholesome circle of life stuff, until it catches what killed it.

[Extravoice]

Erm, you do know that turning livestock into cannibals was itself the cause of the BSE crisis. Feeding an animal more animal of its kind sounds very wholesome circle of life stuff, until it catches what killed it.

Actually, the idea of animals eating their own kind doesn't sound very "circle of life" to me. In fact, for some reason it seems very wrong.
Maybe I just like my circle of life to be a little bigger.

Back on topic, perhaps my friend's car doesn't smell like cooked meat because most of the restaurants around here use vegetable oil rather than lard for cooking.

[NEOWatcher]

If I hear of another person making the news for this, I think I'm going to scream. On second thought, this already made me scream.

Ga. Tech Student Creates Car That Runs on... (http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=8140CF9B59A210E04B43DDB378E27126 ?contentId=6825172&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)


ATLANTA (MyFox Atlanta) – A Georgia Tech engineering student said he has found the answer to staggering gas prices in the garbage. The inventive student has designed a diesel engine car that runs on old oil from restaurant deep fryers.

It's never been done. :rolleyes:


Zoller designed the car himself.

And it still looks like an '81 Rabbit Diesel. :wall:

[mike alexander]

Fox News. We report. You roll your eyes.

[Swift]

Ohio Student Creates Car That Runs on Hot Air from Fox News Reports

[EricM407]

we must have a bit of a language thing going on here. Alaskan and Minnesotan are probably two distinct dialects with the same words meaning different things.
'round these parts, barbecuing is anything cooked on the grille- preferably over a "real" fire made from charcoal and/or wood.

Hmmm... that's weird. In places were people know barbecue (I'm in Kansas City) everybody knows you can't barbecue on a grill. You need a great big smoker that can hold several slabs of ribs and a couple briskets. And a day to cook it. And some sauce. If you invited people to a barbecue and just served them grilled food here, there'd probably be all kinds of riot and commotion.

[NEOWatcher]

Hmmm... that's weird...
Round these parts it's confusing.
Slather sauce on something, no matter how you cook it, and it's called barbecued.
Throw something on a grid with flame or coals, and it's called grilled.
Yet; the social event of grilling is called a barbecue.

[Argos]

I know! I will get a constant hankering for steak. But the really bad news is the likely increase in stomach ulsers as the smell of yummy food on every street triggers a stomachs everywhere to begin producing that deadly digestive cocktail without any food for it to attack.

You know that Helicobacter pylori must to be present for that to happen, but I get your point.

[Celestial Mechanic]

I love the smell of burning meat on the highway in the morning!

(Better that than burning rubber! ;) )

[mugaliens]

Oops...this is startin' to sound like a religious discussion. My god of fire versus yours, eh? :lol:

Pay homage to the almighty pork butt...

[mugaliens]

Hmmm... that's weird. In places were people know barbecue (I'm in Kansas City) everybody knows you can't barbecue on a grill. You need a great big smoker that can hold several slabs of ribs and a couple briskets. And a day to cook it. And some sauce. If you invited people to a barbecue and just served them grilled food here, there'd probably be all kinds of riot and commotion.

Yep, you're in Kansas, all right, as indicated here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbeque), in the third paragraph, which begins with "In English usage..." but the key part is "In US English usage..."

[NEOWatcher]

Just when you thought the smell of regular biodiesel could be a problem, just think of what it would smell like with this biodiesel.

Fill 'Er Up With Human Fat (http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/12/21/fat-fuel-biodiesel-tech-sciences-cz_pcb_1222fatfuel.html?feed=rss_technology)


Liposuctioning unwanted blubber out of pampered Los Angelenos may not seem like a dream job, but it has its perks. Free fuel is one of them.
For a time, Beverly Hills doctor Craig Alan Bittner turned the fat he removed from patients into biodiesel that fueled his Ford SUV and his girlfriend's Lincoln Navigator.

Ok; collecting and using medical waste is illegal. But; that issue, which comprises most of the article pales in comparison to the fact that the doctor let his assistant and his girlfriend do the procedure.

[Abbadon_2008]

Maybe they should switch to bacon grease. That would be great for a fast-food delivery outift.