Aldrin thinks Nowak "admirable"

[Palomar]

DISCLAIMER: This would have been my same reaction if I were still a secular agnostic.

Buzz Aldrin is either losing his marbles or he's an old man smitten with a younger woman:

http://www.space.com/news/ap_070910_aldrin_nowak.html

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin said a former astronaut charged with attempted kidnapping should be "admired" -- but not excused -- for her resolve in allegedly confronting a romantic rival, according to a published report.

In the first place, she was married. But that counts for little/nothing nowadays.

If she'd gone to confront her romantic rival in the daytime, as herself and in a reasonable manner -- that'd be understandable and yeah, would take guts.

"I think Nowak should be admired for traveling across the country at night and not getting out of her car to put in gas or go to the restroom.

What??? :confused:

Should she also be admired for having a wig, pepper spray, etc.?

C'mon, she could have done this in a much more respectable, reasonable and less criminal fashion.

Buzz should talk with Colleen Shipman, see how she feels about Nowak's "admirable" actions. :neutral:

[NEOWatcher]

Buzz Aldrin is either losing his marbles or he's an old man smitten with a younger woman:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but yesterday I brought that one up over here (http://www.bautforum.com/1067396-post374.html) in the thread about that incident.

Apparently, nobody cares, because nobody responded.

[Palomar]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but yesterday I brought that one up over here (http://www.bautforum.com/1067396-post374.html) in the thread about that incident.

Sorry. I should have searched prior to posting; I usually do. Wasn't online this weekend/Monday.

I could understand Aldrin saying something like "let's recall/admire her past accomplishments and be as supportive of her/family as possible"...but THIS?

Colleen Shipman (the single woman dating a single man -- and the victim) seems ignored and/or yawned off in too many of these articles. As though "just because" Nowak was a NASA astronaut she should get a slap on the wrist and a "tut tut, now be a good girl from now on" little speech...and meanwhile who cares about Shipman.

It's ridiculous. Nowak isn't the victim here.

[novaderrik]

well, you do gotta respect here dedication to getting things accomplished, even if she was a bit misguided.
it might have been the wrong way of going about things, but you gotta respect her tenacity.

[Doodler]

Like any personality trait, it can be used for good, it can be used for evil. Intent is the key.

I think Buzzbomb kinda flutzed this one.

[Disinfo Agent]

well, you do gotta respect here dedication to getting things accomplished, even if she was a bit misguided.
it might have been the wrong way of going about things, but you gotta respect her tenacity.You could say the same about any action whatsoever, but that still wouldn't make me respect it.

If a man had done what Nowak did, everyone would think he was just a creep. How is this any different?

[NEOWatcher]

well, you do gotta respect here dedication to getting things accomplished...
Dedication in itself is not necessarily a good thing.

There are lots of people being taken care of by people in white coats because they are so dedicated to something that they can't function in society.

Added: [Diana Troy(sp?)]There are no good emotions or bad emotions, it's what you do with them that matters[/DT] (paraphrased)

[Neverfly]

I think a lot of you are misinterpretting Aldrin's intent.

I read the article and can see where the author of the article was shooting for sensaltionalism.
Granted Aldrin should have chosen his words better.

From the article:
Aldrin said he became depressed and had problems with alcohol after returning to Earth. He has spoken of the difficulties of astronauts readjusting to life outside the space program.

"Returning to Earth was challenging for me,'' he said in response to a question submitted by a Time reader. "I was a celebrity on a pedestal, and I had to live up to that. Like actors and writers who are on and off again in terms of employment, I had a very unstructured life. So the alcoholism and depression, which I inherited, were ripe to flourish."

Aldrin was relating to the story on a personal level- Something that the average citizen, having not experienced such, will not understand.
Astronauts (Incidently MANY people commented on this in the "Love Triangle Gone Bad thread" )are pushed to excell with such intensity, that Aldrin was relating how her mindset could have gone so far.

Funny, in the other thread, I wasn't accepting these responses.
But now that time has passed a little and I have put a lot more thought into it, along with Buzz Aldrins personal account in this article- I can see where a lot of you and where Aldrin is comming from.
Yes, she screwed up. And I still believe she had intent to kill. It IS inexcusable.

[The_Radiation_Specialist]

Who are we to judge what Buzz (or anyone else for that matter) would say? This has to be an all-time most pointless thread.

[Disinfo Agent]

Thank you, Neverfly. I keep forgetting that sensational media headlines must always be dissected in context.

[KaiYeves]

Aldrin also knows a bit about sensational reactions. Pow! ;-)

[NEOWatcher]

I think a lot of you are misinterpretting Aldrin's intent.

I read the article and can see where the author of the article was shooting for sensaltionalism.
Granted Aldrin should have chosen his words better.

Absolutely he should have phrased it better, and I'm not arguing the intent of the statement, but the outcome of the statement...
I think Nowak should be admired for traveling across the country at night and not getting out of her car to put in gas or go to the restroom. It is not excusable, but it is understandable for an achiever to fall into a trap."
It may not be the word "admired", but the placement of the word "for" that is the problem.

Either way, a better clarification may be needed, and if I were Aldrin, I would be kicking and screaming for a followup article.

[Disinfo Agent]

I think Nowak should be admired for traveling across the country at night and not getting out of her car to put in gas or go to the restroom.Perhaps Buzz was joking when he said that.

Just noticed this:

DISCLAIMER: This would have been my same reaction if I were still a secular agnostic.I fail to see the connection.

[KaiYeves]

Perhaps Buzz was joking when he said that.

Just noticed this:

I fail to see the connection.

I think it's 'cause the article made him say "Oh, my god."