The 50 Worst Cars of All Time

[ToSeek]

The 50 Worst Cars of All Time (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0%2c28804%2c1658545_1657686%2c00.html)

[Paracelsus]

Check out the 8-wheeled job they have on there! :lol: Ugly as sin, and you have to pay twice as much for tires.

[mike alexander]

They got the Gremlin, but they missed the Chevy II. I also didn't notice the LeCar, the one with the spare tire mounted in the engine compartment.

I once owned both a Chevy II and a LeCar and can say that each was worse than the other, quite a feat.

[Damburger]

What about the Ford Nucleon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_nucleon) - the car that would've turned every backender into a Three Mile Island.

[Zachary]

What about the Ford Nucleon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_nucleon) - the car that would've turned every backender into a Three Mile Island.

lol! I would so drive one of those.

[Frantic Freddie]

He missed the '76 Pontiac Sunfire (and it's GM siblings),a car that my Mom bought new & was partially responsible for the Lemon Law that came a few years later.

He also missed the horrible gas-to-diesel engine conversions that GM put in their cars after the '73 oil embargo,which soured Americans on diesel car engines,a dislike that continues to this day (I'm always havin' to explain this to my European friends who rave about their diesel cars).

The Pinto wasn't a bad car,I had one,reasonably thrifty & actually handled quite well,but Ford's handling of the gas tank problem was a PR disaster for them.

The only reason Chrysler bought AMC was to get the Jeep line,which they screwed up royally with the '87 Jeep YJ,the square headlights made Jeep purists froth at the mouth,along with the anemic 2.5 ltr 4 cylinder,the exploding Peugot transmission & worthless Dana 35 rear end (no D44 option).

Ford's Twin I-Beam front suspension for their trucks wasn't a bad idea,they just couldn't ever make it work properly,it was an alignment nightmare & shredded front tires.The only way to partly get around the problem was to have the tires rotated every 6000 miles (don't ask me how I know this ;) ).

[Doodler]

Read that over the weekend, lots of giggling ensued.

[Delvo]

Check out the 8-wheeled job they have on there! :lol: Ugly as sin, and you have to pay twice as much for tires.And with one person sitting in it (or "on" it as seems to be the more appropriate word for all of these old cars when ROOFs were out of style) and another apparently standing behind it (with his head and shoulders blending in to the background but his more obvious below the car), the picture makes it look like it uses the Flintstone propulsion system.

[Delvo]

I don't see what's so wrong with the Briggs & Stratton "Flyer" (#5). Yes, it's small, cheap, and light with no walls or roof, but so are motorcycles and scooters, and nobody seems to find anything wrong with that; this thing just has better stability like a car and lets you sit in a chair seat.

[Siguy]

What about the Isetta? I read about it being a flying metal egg shaped death trap.

[mike alexander]

The one where the door was basically the front of the car on a hinge?

[soylentgreen]

The Pinto wasn't a bad car,I had one,reasonably thrifty & actually handled quite well,but Ford's handling of the gas tank problem was a PR disaster for them.


My first car! I was the most agile thing in the neighborhood with that baby as most other teens around in 1987 were inheriting unwieldy station wagon beaters.

I just played up the gas tank issue for it's dashing, romantic angle.

[publius]

Yes, GM needs to be spanked to this day, once in the morning and once at night, for that "diesel" fiasco. Let's take a standard 350cid V-8 and make a diesel out of it. All we need to do is modify the heads a bit. Sort of like taking your standard 1/2ton pickup and trying to haul 10 tons with it all the time. It's not going to last long.

A real diesel, built from the ground up as a diesel is a good thing. I can't sing their praises enough. Ford, back in their tractor line did just the opposite. (They sold the tractor operation and it's gone through several owners now. Who owns it now, I don't know. They're still called New Holland, and Fiat owned most of it at one time. There was some sort of merger a while back. That all just kills me and I don't want to know......)

Anyway, in the mid to late 60s they came out with a new design (the all blue). They built the engines as diesels from the ground up. Massive construction. Now, for the gas model, they just slightly modified that. Heads were cut a little different, different pistons, and the distributor just went where the injector pump did. IIRC, the spark plugs screwed in the injector holes. Well, the heads may have been different.

Anyway, that was just the opposite of what GM did. Why GM did it, I don't know. Their various heavy equipment divisions, like Detroit Diesel, had been making real diesels for years and knew exactly what was needed.

-Richard

[novaderrik]

GM did it because they had all that tooling around for the Oldsmobile V8 and wanted to use it to make a lightweight diesel engine.
they had the best of intentions- and the upshot is that those 350 diesel blocks are worth a lot of $$$ right now because you can build some really big Olds engines out of them that will hold together forever.
and to the guy that knocked the 76 Sunbird- don't be knocking the H bodies. the Vega/Monza is a fun car that handles reasonably well with a 350 under the hood backed by a 4 speed. even when they have the 2.5 "iron Duke" 4 cylinder, they are kind of fun to drive. my 78 Sunbird got over 30 mpg and would get slideways if i tried really hard. it always started up in the dead of winter at temps of -30, but the heater was marginal. and don't forget that the Cosworth Vega was America's first production electronic multi point fuel injected car.

[Maksutov]

[edit]The Pinto wasn't a bad car,I had one,reasonably thrifty & actually handled quite well,but Ford's handling of the gas tank problem was a PR disaster for them....I beg to differ, at least regarding the 1974 models. My wife thought the 1974 Pinto station wagon looked "cute" and that was all she wrote.

As I had warned her, the camshaft was one of those made in South America that was either improperly casehardened or casehardened to an inadequate spec. Upshot was the cam wore out around 55,000 miles and the valves burned due to the changes in timing.

Then she hit a hole one winter and I found out the rear lower shock mount was made from a rather thin piece of stamped out sheet metal. It cracked and I had to weld it back together.

One month after buying it the weld where the rear left pillar joined the roof started cracking. The dealership claimed it was just the paint cracking and repainted it. After three repaints the rather short warranty period ran out and the crack of course reappeared. I had to reweld that joint.

The plastic emergency brake cowl popped off after about three months due to the plastic clips not having enough "beef" to adequately resist the stress put on them when the brake was engaged. Many other plastic parts failed due to poor design.

Although I changed the oil and filter at every scheduled interval (the minimum recommended time/miles), once the cam went the 2300cc engine started burning oil as if it were gas. Re gas, the mileage was really bad, about 23 highway and 16 around town. Of course it had to have an automatic transmission since my wife could never figure out how to work a standard shift. Another factor was all the emission-control vacuum tubing that covered the engine as well as an overly aggressive EGR valve.

After two New England winters, despite using car washes with underbody sprays, and liberal cleanings every spring, the rust started. The fenders looked like swiss cheese after three years.

I finally sold the thing for $500. We watched as the sucker, uh, buyer drove it down the hill in front of our house, and cheered when it was out of sight. We intentionally had the buyer head down the hill so that if the engine failed, he would still coast out of sight.

When I picked that new Pinto at the local Ford dealership, I got in, started it up, and pulled out of the lot. But I had to stop and wait for traffic to clear before entering the main road. When I did that, the engine promptly stalled. I should have trusted my gut instinct and turned around, brought that hunk of junk back to the dealership, and demanded a refund of my money.

[danscope]

"Hi, Wecome to 'Car Talk"
".....Hi, I have a Dodge Aspen..."
" Oh....I'm sorry. Don't tell me; when you go around a corner, the engine stalls, right!?"

True story

[Maksutov]

Of course it's true, it was related in our fair city!Click: Hello, you're on Car Talk!
Caller: I have a problem with ice cream.
Clack: So do I, it's around my waist!
Click: Ha-ha! So that's NOT a spare tire?
Caller: I can't start my car depending on the kind of ice cream I order...A classic urbanesque Puzzler! (http://web.archive.org/web/20030814220711/cartalk.cars.com/Radio/Puzzler/Transcripts/199714/answer.html)

[hhEb09'1]

Read that over the weekend, lots of giggling ensued.Dan Neil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Neil), local renegade, Pulitzer Prize winner, and one of the (mostly dissenting) voices in Who Killed the Electric Car? (http://imdb.com/title/tt0489037/)

[NEOWatcher]

I thought we had one of these articles before, but I confused the "worst" discussion with the "ugly" discussion (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/17397-found-worlds-ugliest-car.html) over here.

I'm not sure what this author's criterion is. It seems like some of them were only prototypes or specialty cars, and some were more than cars (flying, floating, etc). I guess you can open up the umbrella quite wide for inclusions. Some of them were only picked to represent society's failings of the time rather than the car itself.

Most of the cars are in the mid to late 70s. That was a very ugly time for automotive history. I don't know how many were really bad for the time, or only bad because of the time.

71 LeBaron? It was rather representative of the time. Why not the 500/Galaxy/LTD/Caprice?

76 Chevette? He almost praises it, so why did he include it? I had one, it was basic, reliable transportation... Almost compared to the Beetle.

Ford Explorer, Excursion? Only because he thinks people should have bought minivans instead.

I once owned both a Chevy II and a LeCar and can say that each was worse than the other, quite a feat.
I would also add the Fiat Strada (and possibly other Fiats and Renaults) to that comment. I knew someone with a Renault Alliance...the paint even fell off.

...and to the guy that knocked the 76 Sunbird- don't be knocking the H bodies. the Vega/Monza is a fun car that handles reasonably well with a 350 under the hood backed by a 4 speed. even when they have the 2.5 "iron Duke" 4 cylinder, they are kind of fun to drive...
For the most part, I would agree. I had a 74 Vega, and it was fun as long as you kept topping off the oil... At least until it fell apart. I'm suprised you didn't have all the problems in MN.

I don't think a Vega to Sunbird/Monza comparison is really fair, since the Monza was a different car to replace Vega.
Unfortunetely, the Monza was rushed into production so that it would already be accepted when they started offering it with a Wankel engine. Oh, well...

[farmerjumperdon]

What a great list. I disagree with some of the choices, but really enjoyed reading the summaries for each car on the list.

Good stuff.

[suntrack2]

Aha, fine topic here, it is amazing one. today car become a part of one's prestige, even in the old time the car was a great symbol for the people through which they got a site to start a road dectetorship. Anyway the album of cars is so nice.

In the attach image, there is one interesting thing I found, see horse legs are running in the disappear mode. :)

[NEOWatcher]

I am also wondering if the author had any experiences with non-Western Culture vehicles.

For instance, I remember stories about a car my father once had that had a wheel fall off and they didn't know it for about 3km (Tatra, I think).

And visiting in the early seventies, I saw a lot of some 3 wheel car that was basically a frame with a canvas body.

[ciderman]

That list must be for USA models only, because there are no offerings from British Leyland there! My first car was an Morris Marina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Marina), with the same paint job as the one on that page! Pretty awful, the clutch plate would seize onto the flywheel if it was parked more than a couple of weeks.. & with single leaf spring suspension on the back, on bumpy bends you could feel the rear axle moving around sideways in addition to the conventional vertical direction. :)
But she was a taught handling road warrior in comparism to the worst I've ever driven(but not, fortunately, owned!), the Austin Allegro, the early models, with the square steering wheel, truely shocking :)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Allegro

[suntrack2]

frankly speaking the austin martin was quite popular car in the old hollywood movies( I have now forgot in which particular movies), these cars were there in all stunt views. I have not make any test ride of austin martin. :) How many old cars you have driven!, and how many new cars do you drive.

[ciderman]

I'm pretty sure you are thinking of Aston Martin there suntrack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin), very desirable, & something quite different to Austin/Leyland... :)

[mike alexander]

I inherited that Chevy II from my uncle's father-in-law, since I was in grad school and money for a really good dinner meant two bags of ramen noodles. L head six and a TWO-SPEED automatic. I well remember its last trip, from Ohio to NYC and back. My soon-to-be father-in-law took one look at it, laughed, and offered to have an acquaintance leave it under a bridge somewhere.

On the trip out the water pump bearing failed and threw the fan into the radiator. On the trip back the automatic transmission gasket started leaking, meaning I bought almost as much ATF as gas on the trip across Pennsylvana before blowing out completely at the Ohio border on New Year's eve in a sleetstorm. Fortunately it was the early 1970's and I was able to cut a gasket from the top of a box from my fiancee's thigh-high boots that got us home.

To this day, thigh-high boots turn me on.

[peter eldergill]

I didn't bother to read the whole list, I didn't like going through each page one at a time, I wanted the entire list at once..I'm a busy guy! Now back to warcraft...

Pete

[NEOWatcher]

I didn't bother to read the whole list, I didn't like going through each page one at a time, I wanted the entire list at once..I'm a busy guy! Now back to warcraft...

Pete
At the top of the page is a box that says "Complete List"
You may want to try that. :D

[NEOWatcher]

That list must be for USA models only, because there are no offerings from British Leyland there! ...
Again; more mystery, because I have never heard of the Fiat Multipla which is on the list.

And after seeing the list again... they have an East German (communist) car (trabant).

Apparently; this is only one reporter's experience or knowledge.

[Moose]

Maybe it's just me, but I like the Prowler and Aztec. As long as they could pass effectively, I don't care about peel-outs.

[Moose]

That list must be for USA models only, because there are no offerings from British Leyland there!

What? I remember seeing that name in there twice (at least), once for sure.

[peter eldergill]

At the top of the page is a box that says "Complete List"
You may want to try that. :D

OK so let me explain...:)

My monitor is a 15" monitor and the "complete list" was off to the right and I had to scroll the screen over to find it...perhaps I need more practise scrolling:surprised

I'll check it out now, and thanks

Pete

[peter eldergill]

I would add any Hyundai product from the 80's (Pony and Stellar) rustbuckets and not really all that safe (we owned a Stellar)

Pete

[NEOWatcher]

OK so let me explain...:)

My monitor is a 15" monitor and...
Uhm...stop right there, you're going to dig yourself into a hole... Are you saying your monitor is set up to less than 1024 wide?

Ok; so now it's been said and we don't need to discuss it. Keep scrollin :lol:

[Kelfazin]

That list must be for USA models only


1940-1959

1949 Crosley Hotshot (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657678,00.html)
1956 Renault Dauphine (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657681,00.html) <--------------
1957 King Midget Model III (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657682,00.html)
1957 Waterman Aerobile (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657684,00.html)
1958 Ford Edsel (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657781,00.html)
1958 Lotus Elite (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657783,00.html) <--------------
1958 MGA Twin Cam (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657786,00.html) <--------------
1958 Zunndapp Janus (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657782,00.html) <--------------1960-1974

1961 Amphicar (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657832,00.html)
1961 Corvair (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657833,00.html)
1966 Peel Trident (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657834,00.html) <--------------
1970 AMC Gremlin (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657865,00.html)
1970 Triumph Stag (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657839,00.html)
1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1658026,00.html)
1971 Ford Pinto (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1657866,00.html)
1974 Jaguar XK-E V12 Series III (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658498_1658027,00.html) <--------------1975-1989

1975 Bricklin SV1 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658032,00.html)
1975 Morgan Plus 8 Propane (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658029,00.html) <--------------
1975 Triumph TR7 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658040,00.html)
1975 Trabant (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html) <--------------
1976 Aston Martin Lagonda (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658041,00.html) <--------------
1976 Chevy Chevette (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658523,00.html)
1978 AMC Pacer (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658042,00.html)
1980 Corvette 305 "California" (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658522,00.html)
1980 Ferrari Mondial 8 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658043,00.html) <--------------
1981 Cadillac Fleetwood V-8-6-4 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658524,00.html)
1981 De Lorean DMC-12 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658525,00.html)
1982 Cadillac Cimarron (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658526,00.html)
1982 Camaro Iron Duke (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658527,00.html)
1984 Maserati Biturbo (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658531,00.html) <--------------
1985 Mosler Consulier GTP (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658528,00.html)
1985 Yugo GV (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658529,00.html) <--------------
1986 Lamborghini LM002 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658530,00.html)1990-Present

1995 Ford Explorer (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658534,00.html)
1997 GM EV1 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658535,00.html)
1997 Plymouth Prowler (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658536,00.html)
1998 Fiat Multipla (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658537,00.html) <--------------
2000 Ford Excursion (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658538,00.html)
2001 Jaguar X-Type (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658539,00.html) <--------------
2001 Pontiac Aztek (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658540,00.html)
2002 BMW 7-series (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658541,00.html)
2003 Hummer H2 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658542,00.html)
2004 Chevy SSR (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658544_1658543,00.html)

[DOOMMaster]

Yes, GM needs to be spanked to this day, once in the morning and once at night, for that "diesel" fiasco. Let's take a standard 350cid V-8 and make a diesel out of it. All we need to do is modify the heads a bit. Sort of like taking your standard 1/2ton pickup and trying to haul 10 tons with it all the time. It's not going to last long.

A real diesel, built from the ground up as a diesel is a good thing. I can't sing their praises enough. Ford, back in their tractor line did just the opposite. (They sold the tractor operation and it's gone through several owners now. Who owns it now, I don't know. They're still called New Holland, and Fiat owned most of it at one time. There was some sort of merger a while back. That all just kills me and I don't want to know......)

Anyway, in the mid to late 60s they came out with a new design (the all blue). They built the engines as diesels from the ground up. Massive construction. Now, for the gas model, they just slightly modified that. Heads were cut a little different, different pistons, and the distributor just went where the injector pump did. IIRC, the spark plugs screwed in the injector holes. Well, the heads may have been different.

Anyway, that was just the opposite of what GM did. Why GM did it, I don't know. Their various heavy equipment divisions, like Detroit Diesel, had been making real diesels for years and knew exactly what was needed.

-Richard

Please don't go around saying this, is just plain isn't correct. Sorry, but GM did not just take a standard gas 350 and convert the heads. The diesel 350 engines did have problems, but this is NOT one of them.

Most of the problems were from the limitations of the fuel and the fueling system. Not to mention the lack of proper maintenance by the owners. Then, when the engines were rebuilt by techs who were used to working on gasser 350s, they did not rebuild them correctly. Which led to even more problems.

Not trying to say GM did right with the diesel 350, but it wasn't just GM that was the problem. By the time they had worked out the problems, it was a huge PR nightmare, just like the Pinto with the exploding gas tank.

And the list for the 90s is just a sad "Let's bash the domestic SUVs" crap that I've seen far too often. Not everyone might need an SUV who bought one, but that doesn't make the vehicles themselves a "worst vehicle." Not everyone can drive around in tiny-twoseater that gets 40mpg in the city, no matter how much the green Nazis might think everyone should.

[novaderrik]

For the most part, I would agree. I had a 74 Vega, and it was fun as long as you kept topping off the oil... At least until it fell apart. I'm suprised you didn't have all the problems in MN.

I don't think a Vega to Sunbird/Monza comparison is really fair, since the Monza was a different car to replace Vega.
Unfortunetely, the Monza was rushed into production so that it would already be accepted when they started offering it with a Wankel engine. Oh, well...
actually, most of them have fallen apart up here. any H body sighting- be it a Monza, Vega, Sunbird, or whatever- is a rare thing. and of the few i see in any given year, maybe 10% aren't rolling piles of rust.
the Monza was supposed to be the '75 Camaro and was built on the same chassis as the Vega. but there was a massive letter writing campaign to "save" the Camaro, so the Vega derived car was given a name last used on the Corvair- Monza- and sold as a separate model from 75-80 along with Buick, Olds, and Pontiac versions of it. the Vega soldiered on until the 77 model year, i think. mechanically, a Vega and Monza ar the same thing. but there were more engine options in a Monza- everything from the craptastic 2.3 liter OHC Vega motor up to a 350 inch V8 in 75 only, and 305" and 267" (or was it 262"?) V8's from 76 on.

[publius]

Please don't go around saying this, is just plain isn't correct. Sorry, but GM did not just take a standard gas 350 and convert the heads. The diesel 350 engines did have problems, but this is NOT one of them.


That is the short version of what they did. They took their 350 gasoline engine and increased the compression and made a diesel out of it. Now, yes, they increased the size of the main and rod journals a bit, used a stronger alloy for the casting and I think made it a little thicker.

So, I'll grant it you it was stronger than a standard gas 350. But was it strong enough for a diesel? No. No matter how you slice it, it was just that, modifying a basic gasoline engine to be a diesel.

My Uncle Bob, a big Chevy man bought one of those 350 diesels in a C-150 pickup back then. In a couple years, that engine was torn down in a shop, and we were all looking at little cracks in the heads, right between the valves on nearly every cylinder. When Uncle Bob saw that, he traded it away right then and replaced it with a gas pickup. It just wasn't strong enough to handle the higher compression stresses.

It didn't have enough head bolts for a diesel either, and that may have been part of that cracking problem right there.

Now, every since I was a wee lad, I've been around diesels. Real diesels. Massive and tough. The last one I overhauled was an old Allis Chalmers 301cid 6-cyl. I took it to the shop in my F-150 and noted with a smile how much the springs squatted down with that massive engine in the bed. A real diesel is *heavy*.

IOW, I know diesels. Diesels are friends of mine. And, those GM engines were no diesels. And the above is not just me. That is the assessment of everyone I know with diesel experience, which includes the mechanics and machinists who've worked on and rebuilt them longer than I've been alive. They just weren't beefy enough to handle the stress.

-Richard

[peter eldergill]

Uhm...stop right there, you're going to dig yourself into a hole... Are you saying your monitor is set up to less than 1024 wide?

Ok; so now it's been said and we don't need to discuss it. Keep scrollin :lol:

Actually, I have no idea what it's set to, I'm at work and I'm not allowed even to create a new folder, let alone fiddle with any settings....

Never mind, It was set to less 600by800. I can change it, but it's a shared computer, so I'll leave it as the status quo. It'll probably reset once you login anyways!

Pete

[NEOWatcher]

Never mind, It was set to less 600by800.
Can I keep picking on you?
1) 800x600 unless you have it turned sideways or have a portrait moniter.
2) Less than? by how much?
I can change it, but it's a shared computer, so I'll leave it as the status quo. It'll probably reset once you login anyways!
Well, it depends on the OS and how you log in, but your first instinct on a shared computer to keep the status quo is probably best.

Scrollin, Scrollin, Scrollin... Keep them Mousies rollin... Rawhide.

[suntrack2]

I'm pretty sure you are thinking of Aston Martin there suntrack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin), very desirable, & something quite different to Austin/Leyland... :)


yes, thanks, that is Aston-Martin, I thought that the same car manufactured in Austin, and hence I pronounce it as Austin martin. thanks for the clarification and the link, this type of car was also used in the James Bond 007 series too. :) and also thanks for the linking.

Infact Toseek did a marvelous and with a great distinction of the overall introduction of all cars on one screen, that's quite beautiful, there are many vintage cars also looking in the album, the impression of the album is precious one.

sunil

[Doodler]

Can I keep picking on you?
1) 800x600 unless you have it turned sideways or have a portrait moniter.
2) Less than? by how much?

Well, it depends on the OS and how you log in, but your first instinct on a shared computer to keep the status quo is probably best.

Scrollin, Scrollin, Scrollin... Keep them Mousies rollin... Rawhide.

The only thing smaller than 800x600 is 640x480, or something like that...a setting I haven't seen since Windows 3.1..

[NEOWatcher]

The only thing smaller than 800x600 is 640x480, or something like that...a setting I haven't seen since Windows 3.1..
Well; the XP loading screen is still 640x480x256...

And if you want to go farther back into B&W days, Hercules had a 720xsomething. And several others, some with actual standard names: CGA, SGA, VGA...

Oh; back to the cars...

[Moose]

IIRC, EGA was 300x200.

[Kelfazin]

From Sarongsong in another thread

Acronym...Actual Resolution
VGA.........640 x 480
SVGA.......800 x 600
XGA.......1024 x 768
WXGA....1366 x 768
SXGA.....1280 x 1024
UXGA.....1600 x 1200
QXGA.....2048 x 1536
Got it? Now, as far as I can tell WVA and another new acronym, WSXGA are actually at 1680 x 1050, so it's almost, but not quite, UXGA in resolution. And another site suggests that WVA = WUXGA and that it's actually 1920 x 1200 in resolution. (and, yes, I feel like I'm speaking Greek here, not English!)...
Ask Dave Taylor (http://www.askdavetaylor.com/what_do_xga_sxga_wva_and_wide_angle_mean.html)


And according to this website (http://searchsmb.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid44_gci211966,00.html)

1981, IBM introduced the Color Graphics Adapter (CGA). This display system was capable of rendering four colors, and had a maximum resolution of 320 pixels horizontally by 200 pixels vertically.

[...]

In 1984, IBM introduced the Enhanced Graphics Adapter (EGA) display. It allowed up to 16 different colors and offered resolution of up to 640 x 350.

[KaiYeves]

Who would drive a car called the Gremlin? Don't gremlins mess up machines?

[Zachary]

Dude, how can they not include the magnificent Sinclair C5? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5

[Zachary]

The only thing smaller than 800x600 is 640x480, or something like that...a setting I haven't seen since Windows 3.1..

My old comp could do 640x480. Early macs had a resolution of 5xx*3xx (not sure of the specifics)

Ok I'll stop being a pedant now.

[peter eldergill]

Wow, I wish I was as fun as you guys :surprised

It's 800 by 600 (not less)

Sorry I got it backwards, but I'm glad you were able to (depending on the country)

a) Take the Mick
b) Extract the Micheal
c) Make fun
d) Have a laugh

:)

Pete


PS I heard the phrase "Jog On" from the movie "Hot Fuzz"...Never heard that in Canada..is it a new Brit slang?

[Ronald Brak]

1981, IBM introduced the Color Graphics Adapter (CGA). This display system was capable of rendering four colors, and had a maximum resolution of 320 pixels horizontally by 200 pixels vertically.


I never understood why with CGA, if you could only have four colours, why did two of them have to be purple?

[Ronald Brak]

PS I heard the phrase "Jog On" from the movie "Hot Fuzz"...Never heard that in Canada..is it a new Brit slang?

I guess so. I believe it means "push off" or something similar.

[Maksutov]

I never understood why with CGA, if you could only have four colours, why did two of them have to be purple?Well, one was "Deep Purple" and the other one wasn't.

Always wondered if folks around Atlanta bought those monitors and were disappointed because they couldn't "See Georgia".

Meanwhile BOT, I'm surprised the Simca didn't get on that list.

[KaiYeves]

Because purple is my favorite color!

[danscope]

actually, most of them have fallen apart up here. any H body sighting- be it a Monza, Vega, Sunbird, or whatever- is a rare thing. and of the few i see in any given year, maybe 10% aren't rolling piles of rust.
the Monza was supposed to be the '75 Camaro and was built on the same chassis as the Vega. but there was a massive letter writing campaign to "save" the Camaro, so the Vega derived car was given a name last used on the Corvair- Monza- and sold as a separate model from 75-80 along with Buick, Olds, and Pontiac versions of it. the Vega soldiered on until the 77 model year, i think. mechanically, a Vega and Monza ar the same thing. but there were more engine options in a Monza- everything from the craptastic 2.3 liter OHC Vega motor up to a 350 inch V8 in 75 only, and 305" and 267" (or was it 262"?) V8's from 76 on.

Hi, Yes, it was a 262 V8, and it ran like a smooth machine should. Loved it.
Then, the chassis rotted out; nothing to weld to, nothing to hold my front suspension to. I cried. Bought it for $400. Used it for 3 years. Total cost of car...$400 . Loved the car. Bring back the 262.

Best regards,
Dan

[mfumbesi]

........The piece de resistance, Jag affixed hideous rubber bumpers — Dagmars, really — in a lame attempt to meet 5-mph bumper standards. To which car enthusiasts can only say, "You *******s!"
I think this was one of the worst examples of trying to do a quick fix, for new regulations.

[danscope]

Yeah, they sure killed Kenny with that one.

[teddyv]

I saw the Triumph TR7 on the list. My brother-in-law owned one and can attest to their continuous maintenance problems. He had one story of himself under the car one day, swearing away at it, when noticed a pair of shoes walk up and stop. Upon further inspection, it was the pastor coming to visit his mother. The pastor looked at him and said, "Don't worry, God understands British cars."

[suntrack2]

I have made one cartoon on "the worst car"

just see it. (will it be number 51) ! :)

[suntrack2]

some of the old cars had one rod for moving at the front side below the bonet, it was just like a big key, and then only car could start, the old mirrors were too amazing. I like old cars but also preferes new hi-tech designs like a gates opening at the roof top of the car like a bird's wings.

[Neverfly]

I have made one cartoon on "the worst car"

just see it. (will it be number 51) ! :)

I think it wins as worst DRAWING of a car...:whistle:

[peter eldergill]

I always like Homer Simpson's car, with a bubble, fins, and a drink holder to fit HIS drink

Pete