Planets 2008

[Robert Tulip]

The attached calendar is an easy guide to planetary positions over the next year. Some conjunctions are
• Mercury Neptune 21 Jan – 5 Feb
• Uranus Venus Mercury 31 March
• Neptune Lunar Node March-May
• Saturn Mars Moon 7 July
• Mercury Venus Mars Moon 2 September
• Jupiter Venus Moon 2 December
Good Friday is on the equinox 21 March, with a full moon on the Saturday making 23 March the earliest Easter in recent years. Sun Pluto Full Moon and Mars are near a Grand Square on 22 March, Neptune may (?) be occulted by an eclipsed full moon on 17 August, and Mars by the Moon on 8 June. Saturn Venus & Mercury are trine Jupiter & Moon 14 August.

[Kaptain K]

...Neptune may (?) be occulted by an eclipsed full moon on 17 August...
According to the current (Feb. 08) issue of Sky & Telescope The Feb. 20 eclipse is the last total eclipse until Dec. 2010.

[Maksutov]

According to the current (Feb. 08) issue of Sky & Telescope The Feb. 20 eclipse is the last total eclipse until Dec. 2010.Never bother an astrologer with astronomical facts.

[Kaptain K]

:clap: Touche! :clap:

[Robert Tulip]

I did not assert the August eclipse would be total. It will be partial. My question mark was about whether it would be during the Moon-Neptune conjunction. This is just astronomy. My main point is that the attachment is a useful planetary calendar.

[Maksutov]

I did not assert the August eclipse would be total. It will be partial.You wrotean eclipsed full moonwhich indicates, per the astronomical parlance I'm used to, a total eclipse. If it weren't total, then the correct description astronomically would be "a partially-eclipsed full Moon."My question mark was about whether it would be during the Moon-Neptune conjunction. This is just astronomy. My main point is that the attachment is a useful planetary calendar.Yeah, right, like astronomers are really interested in or concerned about Neptune at the lunar node, the Sun, Pluto, the full Moon, and Mars being near a Grand Square, and Saturn, Venus, and Mercury being trine* Jupiter and the Moon.

http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/muede/a045.gif

*trine (trahyn)
–adjective
1. threefold; triple.
2. Astrology. of or pertaining to the trigon aspect of two planets distant from each other 120°, or the third part of the zodiac.
–noun
3. a set or group of three; triad.
4. (initial capital letter) the Trinity.
5. Astrology. a trine aspect of two planets, indicative of ease and accomplishment.

[Robert Tulip]

What fun to be chased by a dinosaur! :)

Luckily for me Mak didn't notice the Y axis shows the four elements.

But seriously, this calendar is just an empirical guide to where the planets will appear in the sky this year in relation to the sun. I didn't realise trines and squares were such hot buttons. Sorry.

[Maksutov]

What fun to be chased by a dinosaur! :)Not only chased, but caught! However I have such a distaste for astrology that I spat you out. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/566/iconwink6tn.gifLuckily for me Mak didn't notice the Y axis shows the four elements.So that's what that four-color line was supposed to represent?

Meanwhile, with only four elements represented, then, no wonder I missed them, seeing as how there are 92 naturally-occurring elements and additional lab-produced ones whose number increases over time.
But seriously, this calendar is just an empirical guide to where the planets will appear in the sky this year in relation to the sun. I didn't realise trines and squares were such hot buttons. Sorry.Any astrological mumbojumbo will go over like a lead (element atomic number 82) balloon in an astronomy/science forum.

[geonuc]

Ummm ... I'm new here, so maybe I'm not clued in to Mr. Tulip's agenda. But isn't this sort of information useful for amateur astromomers? Particularly astro-photographers? I mean, APOD often shows cool photos of various conjunctions.

:confused:

[Maksutov]

Ummm ... I'm new here, so maybe I'm not clued in to Mr. Tulip's agenda.Check out these threads: one (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/67587-precessional-cosmology.html#post1123830) two (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/63649-planets-earthquakes.html#post1052751) three (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/61085-planets-rain.html#post1014269). But isn't this sort of information useful for amateur astromomers? Particularly astro-photographers? I mean, APOD often shows cool photos of various conjunctions.

:confused:Yes, such information is useful for amateur astronomers. But it is usually presented in an easy-to-read list/calendar such as this (http://stargazing.suite101.com/article.cfm/planetary_conjunctions_for_2008) or this (http://www.rasnz.org.nz/SolarSys/08Planets.htm#conjunctions), rather than in a hard-to-decipher, overly-busy graph with astrological content.

[geonuc]

Check out these threads: one (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/67587-precessional-cosmology.html#post1123830) two (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/63649-planets-earthquakes.html#post1052751) three (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/61085-planets-rain.html#post1014269).
Ta. I see now.

[Robert Tulip]

Apologies for continuing this discussion, but I do need to correct the claim from Maksutov that this graph has astrological content. Admittedly, it is based on the tropical rather than the sidereal zodiac, but this is purely empirical and has no speculative content. The colour coding of the Y axis is solely for ease of reference. I have found this graph a useful presentation of the paths of the planets and dates of moon phases for observation purposes. It may look cluttered to a cursory glance, but all the information in it is real, setting out the year on a page in a convenient way.

[Celestial Mechanic]

[Snip!] Yes, such information is useful for amateur astronomers. But it is usually presented in an easy-to-read list/calendar such as this (http://stargazing.suite101.com/article.cfm/planetary_conjunctions_for_2008)
This one did not come through at all in Mozilla, just a blank page.
or this (http://www.rasnz.org.nz/SolarSys/08Planets.htm#conjunctions),
This one came through better, except that the last table (of conjunctions) did not format properly.
rather than in a hard-to-decipher, overly-busy graph with astrological content.
In Mr. Tulip's defense, his chart is no busier than the similar chart published each year in Sky and Telescope. The astrological content is confined to his color-coding of the signs at the left margin. I'll probably live. :D

[Maksutov]

This one did not come through at all in Mozilla, just a blank page.

This one came through better, except that the last table (of conjunctions) did not format properly.Both are displayed and formatted properly with my browser, Firefox 2.0.0.11. Sorry you had a problem.

Here are screen grabs of the two linked lists.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2073/planetaryconjunctions1pv7.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planetaryconjunctions1pv7.jpg)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6048/planetaryconjunctions2mv0.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planetaryconjunctions2mv0.jpg)
In Mr. Tulip's defense, his chart is no busier than the similar chart published each year in Sky and Telescope. The astrological content is confined to his color-coding of the signs at the left margin. I'll probably live. :DNever liked the S&T chart due to the busy-ness factor. Re the one posted here, guess it's just me, but any astrological content is too much astrological content. I'd rather have 100% meaningful information.

Good to hear about your survival chances! :)