the mile long and half mile wide spaceship?

[Chunky]

it was seen in stevensville texas on jan the 8th 2008. it was on cnn and the world news i dont have the url...not anymore and i cant seem to find the artical anymore. but they had creditable eye whitnesses(sp?)


check it out....if you want?

[Neverfly]

It's being discussed all over the board.
But frankly, understanding some rudimentary physics makes it seem to me like impossible engineering would need to be involved to make a floating craft a mile long.

The gravity strain alone would be tremendous- but also think about wind shear. Over a mile long solid surface? WoW....

[Ronald Brak]

I have no problem with the physics. Space aliens can do what they want. But without reading the article, because I couldn't be bothered, how the heck can anyone tell how large an alien spaceship is by looking at it? Just what refference frame would someone use that would enable them to judge how large an alien flying object up in the sky is? Had the observer spent a lot of time in the Denebulan spaceship yards?

[Neverfly]

Had the observer spent a lot of time in the Denebulan spaceship yards?

One might wonder what they were doing lurking there:think:
Denobulans are polygamous.

[Noclevername]

Coming up next on Mythbusters, how to build a 1.5-mile-long balloon!

[weatherc]

The most amazing piece of technology that all of the aliens visiting Earth seem to have is a hand-held camera avoidance detector, since no one ever seems to have a decent camera in the areas where their ships appear.

[mike alexander]

The Mile Long and Half Mile Wide Spaceship. It sounds like the title from an early 70's New Wave novel. Maybe accompanied by The Celestial Steam Locomotive.

[EndeavorRX7]

Had the observer spent a lot of time in the Denebulan spaceship yards?

I hear the "1.5 mile" is the new model from Denebulan. It succeeds the Denebulan "1 mile". It is an all new line of SUV. If you go now to a Denebulan dealership thay also have special lease rates. But act now, it's a limited time offer.

[torque of the town]

Maybe accompanied by The Celestial Steam Locomotive



Stevenson's Rocket perhaps?

[Frog march]

it was the thought bubble.

[Jeff Root]

Where can I find a summary of this story?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

[BigDon]

My ship, the Constellation was 1,074 feet log and had close to 5 acres of flight deck. It wieghed 85,000 tons empty. What would a ship that big wiegh? Half a million tons?

Double the size, triple the mass gets out of hand fast, don't it?

[sarongsong]

Where can I find a summary of this story?MUFON (http://www.mufon.com/)?
Oh, wait---none other than Mr. No-Spin is on it!January 22, 2008 [transcript]
...BILL O'REILLY, HOST: ...in Stephenville, Texas, 100 miles southwest of Dallas, they do believe...Mr. Allen, begin with you. Tell us exactly what you saw.
STEVE ALLEN, UFO WITNESS: ...Back in January, the 8th, we was at a friend of mine's house...The visibility was unlimited and still plenty of sunlight the first time we saw it...
FOXNews (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324698,00.html)No mention of mile-sized objects here, tho.

[Sean Clayden]

what a crock of s*^&).

anybody that believes aliens are around is mental.

Park on my lawn tomorrow and i will eat a bid piece of humble pie

[danscope]

" ....At first I thought it was a big old dog,....what with the way it howled and had those big friendly eyes....came crawlin' out of a well wearing ladie's
shoes....we took it to the swiss picnic and it choked to death on a piece of cheese...."

[Frog march]

if some skeptics had their head up their posterior they would claim it was night time, and any other explanation was insanity :)

[mfumbesi]

sarcasm
What is so bizzare about this aliens is that they are classist and racist, I mean what is wrong with Africa. I've never heard (except for one woman who claimed to have carried an alien love child) of any these guys coming down here..Its always in the USA. Is it because we are poor, and don't carry low resolution cellphone cameras. I feel, I must air this injustice.
/sarcasm

[Tuckerfan]

The Mile Long and Half Mile Wide Spaceship. It sounds like the title from an early 70's New Wave novel. Maybe accompanied by The Celestial Steam Locomotive.
I thought I was the only person who'd heard of that book.

BTW, video has surfaced of whatever it was. The military has also admitted that they did have aircraft in the area on a training mission. Now, the video is pretty inconclusive, IMHO. It could have ben some kind of natural phenomina I'm not familiar with (it looked like high speed footage of the Northern Lights) or it could have been one of the ships from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The military, however, was stupid in saying that they didn't have anything in the air and then admitting that they did. That just feeds the nutters. They should have admitted to the training flight at the beginning or the spokesperson should have said that they didn't know.

[Trantor]

The ship is a mile long and about a half mile wide? Sounds like an Imperial Star Destroyer. Did the eyewitnesses say it had a dagger-like wedge shape? Perhaps, the Empire is scouting us out in preparation for their attack...

[Noclevername]

if some skeptics had their head up their posterior they would claim it was night time, and any other explanation was insanity :)

And some Believers would claim that it was the only possible place to keep their heads, no matter what evidence was presented that said otherwise. :lol:

[Gillianren]

The military, however, was stupid in saying that they didn't have anything in the air and then admitting that they did. That just feeds the nutters. They should have admitted to the training flight at the beginning or the spokesperson should have said that they didn't know.

The understanding I have on the subject was that the spokesman thought there wasn't anything up then and was wrong. It happens. The problem is, CTs don't seem to know anything about human behaviour when it's applied to individuals within large organizations. They think the large organization (the military, the government, the Freemasons, etc.) behaves in a way that is not based on how people within it act; the organization is monolithic.

[Tuckerfan]

The understanding I have on the subject was that the spokesman thought there wasn't anything up then and was wrong. It happens. The problem is, CTs don't seem to know anything about human behaviour when it's applied to individuals within large organizations. They think the large organization (the military, the government, the Freemasons, etc.) behaves in a way that is not based on how people within it act; the organization is monolithic.Yeah, but you'd think that by now, the military would have gotten their act together enough to be able to know that the default answer in such situations should be, "I don't know if we had any planes in the air, but I'll check on it and get back to you."

[Frantic Freddie]

Was it Clarke or Heinlein that said "It's not an alien craft unless you can read the Mars registration plate"? :D

[Noclevername]

Yeah, but you'd think that by now, the military would have gotten their act together enough to be able to know that the default answer in such situations should be, "I don't know if we had any planes in the air, but I'll check on it and get back to you."

As Gillian said, each individual in the military would have to know that too. Most of them don't have training in what-to-do-if-someone-cries-UFO.

[Tuckerfan]

As Gillian said, each individual in the military would have to know that too. Most of them don't have training in what-to-do-if-someone-cries-UFO.

Oh, come on! It's not like the military has never faced this issue before. Any time someone yells, "Space aliens!" the media always puts in a call to the military to see if they were behind it. Were we talking about Roswell, NM circa 1947, I could understand, but they've had 61 freaking years to figure this out now. :rolleyes: It ain't like it's rocket science! ;)

[NEOWatcher]

Oh, come on! It's not like the military has never faced this issue before...
And how many thousands of people make up the military? I'm sure there are procedures that have been drafted to deal with this. The issue is each individual needs to know the procedures. With all the regs and guidelines in the military, how can you possibly have everyone trained for every procedure?

The same thing happens here at work. Press releases go out about something, and we are lectured on how to deal with inquiries. We still have people who run off at the mouth spouting half truths to sound important even though it could mean the loss of thier job.

Is the company wrong?

[Neverfly]

With the Cold War over as well, you can see how seriously the Military takes UFO sightings.

[Swift]

The ship is a mile long and about a half mile wide? Sounds like an Imperial Star Destroyer. Did the eyewitnesses say it had a dagger-like wedge shape? Perhaps, the Empire is scouting us out in preparation for their attack...
I wonder if it hung in the air exactly like bricks don't? :think:
Now where's my towel?

[Grashtel]

Oh, come on! It's not like the military has never faced this issue before.
Remember the old joke about Military Intelligence being an oxymoron? Well there is a reason that it has been around for so long :)

[Noclevername]

Oh, come on! It's not like the military has never faced this issue before.

As I said, it's not "the military" who said it, it was one guy in the military.

[Onlooker]

Training its personnel to make sure they give the correct media first response in case some people think they saw a mile long alien spacecraft? I\'m sure that\'s pretty high up on the military\'s priority list. I mean, if there\'s one thing I would want the military to get right, that\'s it.

[Neverfly]

Training its personnel to make sure they give the correct media first response in case some people think they saw a mile long alien spacecraft? I\'m sure that\'s pretty high up on the military\'s priority list. I mean, if there\'s one thing I would want the military to get right, that\'s it.

Why?

There are no Mile Long Spaceships but there IS some hyperactive imaginations, misinterpretations and misconceptions.

Why should that be on the military's list at all? They have better things to deal with.

[Fazor]

I always wonder who exactly releases the initial "reports" from the military anyway. I know when I worked security, if anything happened (and it did...I worked for the Ohio Bureau of Worker's Comp during their big financial/fraud scandle), no one was allowed to say anything to the press. Not us (we were contractors anyway, would have been waaay out of line), not the employees, nobody except the PR people. Police work is the same way, largely. So I imagine the millitary is aswell.

So who inintially reported no activity anyway? Did they even have access to the information they were reporting about? Remember, the media is notorious for prying a statement out of anyone they can, then attributing that statement to a group as a whole.

[danscope]

" Initial reports of my demise have been grossly exagerated ."
Mark Twain

[NEOWatcher]

...Remember, the media is notorious for prying a statement out of anyone they can, then attributing that statement to a group as a whole.
Heck...they don't even have to pry... Yesterday I read a story that included the quote
"According to a police officer who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak to the press"

So; is somebody who's willing to break the rules like that really a trustworthy source?

[Fazor]

Heck...they don't even have to pry... Yesterday I read a story that included the quote
"According to a police officer who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak to the press"

Yeah, I saw that too. I'm sure someone had a very unpleasant shift when their supiror figured out who broke procedure also. :)

[Onlooker]

Why?

There are no Mile Long Spaceships but there IS some hyperactive imaginations, misinterpretations and misconceptions.

Why should that be on the military\'s list at all? They have better things to deal with.

I will take this as evidence that I need to work on my sarcasm skills :(

[Fazor]

I will take this as evidence that I need to work on my sarcasm skills :(
:lol: no worries, text-based communication is a notoriously hard format to convey sarcasm, unless the people are familiar with you.

For instance, if I said, "I saw a grainy video on you tube that showed a craft on in the dark night sky darting erracticly! UFO'S ARE REAL!" they'd (hopefully) know that I wasn't being serious, based on the fact that I have been anything but a UFO proponent in the past.

By the way, I did see a video on youtube that proves aliens and ufo's exist!

...see? :)

Oh, and if I'm not sure it will be picked up as sarcasm I usually add "[/sarcasm]", which I love two-fold because it reduces misunderstandings, AND is very dorky! :)

[SeanF]

Heck...they don't even have to pry... Yesterday I read a story that included the quote
"According to a police officer who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak to the press"

So; is somebody who's willing to break the rules like that really a trustworthy source?
That happens all the time. The Wall Street Journal's Best of the Web (http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/archive/) has one just about every day, it seems. :)

[Tuckerfan]

Training its personnel to make sure they give the correct media first response in case some people think they saw a mile long alien spacecraft? I\'m sure that\'s pretty high up on the military\'s priority list. I mean, if there\'s one thing I would want the military to get right, that\'s it.You obviously have no idea of how the military works. Nobody is allowed to speak to the media unless they've been authorized to, and if they're not with the military's PR units (and, yes, they do have them), they're carefully screened and vetted ahead of time to make sure that they don't say anything which makes the military look bad. (And they're quite limited in what they can say. If you're in the military, you can not say anything bad about the sitting President, no matter how big of a jerk he or she may be.)

People are constantly bombarding the military with questions about anything and everything you can imagine, and while they may not train them to handle questions about UFOs, they do train them so that their answer to any question is to automatically respond with something that's supposed to portray the military in a positive light.

The fact that the initial response is, "No, we didn't have anything in the air." tells me that their default response to any question about military aircraft sightings is: "No, we didn't have anything in the air." This is no doubt a legacy of the Cold War fetish for secrecy, but is pretty useless as it causes people to be distrustful of the military when it comes to answering questions. If you can't trust them to give you an honest answer over some silly frippery like UFOs, how can you trust them to give you an honest answer over something important?

[Neverfly]

Tuckerfan, he responded to mine with:

I will take this as evidence that I need to work on my sarcasm skills :(

;)

[sarongsong]

February 9, 2008
Local reporter on Texas UFO case leaves newspaper...Angelia Joiner had been covering the UFO story which broke early in January...According to information obtained for this report, management at the Stephenville Empire-Tribune (http://www.empiretribune.com/shared-content/search/?search=1&o=0&l=15&q=ufo&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0) did not want further coverage in the paper of the sightings by local citizens of something that appeared to be highly unusual. Pressures may have been placed on newspaper management to discontinue articles on the subject...
AmericanChronicle (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/51832)February 3, 2008
UFO witness claims harassment...“And he informed me that it was not my air space — it was his. He told me if I’d quit talking about what I saw he would stop the helicopters.”...since that conversation, the helicopters have quit flying over his property but the F-16s haven’t slowed...
Empire-Tribune (http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/02/03/news/news02.txt)http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

[Neverfly]

...http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

CT'ists are going to have a field day with that one;)

[Neverfly]

It seems the author of those articles is a heavy handed CT'ist himself.
I have quoted various bits- and Bolded Certain key things including his emphasis on "Good Americans." I did not quote all the times he referred to "good Americans."

The articles are very slanted however. Let's take a look:

However, some of these witnesses and Joiner seem to be paying a price for doing their civic duty and communicating about an incident that appeared to be very significant, and could even have affected the public safety of the communities in the area.


According to information obtained for this report, management at the Stephenville Empire-Tribune did not want further coverage in the paper of the sightings by local citizens of something that appeared to be highly unusual. Pressures may have been placed on newspaper management to discontinue articles on the subject.

May have? Speculating? What kind of pressure? Threats from the Evil Gubmint or pressure that readers were tired and fed up with the Hoopla? The author doesn't say. Leaves you guessing. Typical CT'ist tactic. Your imagination is probably better than his.

Publisher Rochelle Stidham and Managing Editor Sara Vanden Berge were contacted for their comments for this report but did not immediately respond.

Ok, but did they respond? Not immediately , well - life is tough when you gotta wait. But did they respond? If so, what did they have to say?
The author doesn't say. He drops that bit and leaves you guessing.

Did the paper's management face pressures to end coverage of the UFO sighting by a local peace officer, respected businessman and pilot and reportedly dozens of other local citizens? Did they back away from accounts of local citizens who said they were apparently being threatened for talking about what they saw?

Is this a case of media censorship or self-censorship and political correctness? Is it about professional courage and moral integrity? And, can the newspaper now be trusted by the community to cover important aspects of public health and safety, local political activities and other sometimes sensitive topics?

"Objection! Leading the witness!"

Even as the national and international media interest calmed down somewhat, other ominous developments were occurring in the Stephenville area.

A local resident stated he had received threatening phone calls and threats of implied bodily harm or death for talking publicly about what he saw.

From who? Did he really or is he just claiming he did? Was it a prank call?

As Joiner was covering this more serious aspect of the UFO sighting case (in articles published Feb. 3 and Feb. 4) which appeared to be a law enforcement and criminal matter affecting public safety, she was reportedly told by newspaper management to back off.

Was it possible that she was getting out of line? Were there really law enforcement or criminal matters or was she (possibly inadvertently) slandering Law enforcement officials without evidence?

The apparent irregularities and journalistic priorities of what was starting to emerge at the Empire-Tribune probably also started to dawn on Joiner as she realized things were not going in a good direction at the paper.

What irregularities? What circumstances were involved that were not going well for the paper? Was she a responsible journalist or a biased one? Were the circumstances related to the UFO coverage or separate issue?


She gave her two-week notice, then was told to leave immediately.

Oh! So she QUIT! And they said, "Why wait?"

Joiner apparently felt that people in her community had "a need to know" about what was going on when respectable citizens came forward with their accounts and subsequent serious incidents reportedly involved the safety of and threats to a local family.

The Stephenville UFO sighting incident is not the first and will not be the last. The responses by local and regional public safety officials to such incidents have also occurred before, and will again. Local, national and international news media professionals are also part of the picture, past, present and future.

Is this a prediction?

Their respect and support for good American citizens will remain crucial in the days ahead.


Many of the residents of the Stephenville region are just such good Americans. Reporter Joiner knew this because she knows the people of her community.

They are just Sooo very very good! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/105.gif

The citizens of the Stephenville region, and all the rest of us, must decide about the directions we want to take. Do we want to continue being dumbed down? Do we want to stick our head in the sand and close our eyes?

Is that what is happening? The author of this article has not helped the dumbing down much. He raises more questions than answers. And questions he could address and answer he leaves open to interpretation, imagination and the power of suggestion.

[Tedward]

I find it strange that with something (supposedly) so big, how it is supposed to be covered up. Apart from a really large tarp but I digress. With the quality of todays mobile phone camera's there is less chance nowadays of something only being witnessed by a few people. That and if you were in charge of a country in cahoots with little purple beings from the planet Xarg then you would ask them to play nice and tell junior not to buzz the locals on its way out. Unless teenagers are the same the galaxy over.

I would also expect the military to be careful on what they say anyway. They will hardly say they have a new type of plane up in the air for example, which is another possible explanation and the viewers got the scale all wrong. If they were to say that there was a new type of plane in the air then spies would have a field day.

Harassment is something that got me thinking. Why phone or buzz the area with copters when you can send around the lads in the black kit to say "HI". Surly there is less chance of that being witnessed then sending a load of planes and helicopters. They tend to get noticed.

[NEOWatcher]

The articles are very slanted however. Let's take a look:...
Let me add this as a major point
Joiner apparently felt that people in her community had "a need to know" about what was going on when respectable citizens came forward with their accounts and subsequent serious incidents reportedly involved the safety of and threats to a local family.
So; investigate what it was, not what people are saying.
So; will ten "what was that?" stories help? A hundred? A thousand?


The reason given to Joiner for this was, "because our readership had grown tired of the UFO stories."

Bingo; give some information, not a bunch of rumors.

[mugaliens]

Yet another reason we should allow the unlimited right to keep and bear arms. Perhaps one of these days someone will shoot one down and we'll have some actual evidence.

But if they're real, they'd probably scortch the planet in response, so maybe it's not such a hot idea after all...