Daylight Savings Time Causes Global Warming

[orionjim]

This morning as I grabbed my alarm clock to leap back an hour (or is it leap forward an hour, I forget) I came to the realization that I was an alarmist. Rather than fight it, I decided to do what any good alarmist would do and that is alarm people. So here goes:

Daylight Saving Time causes Global Warming!!

In 1918 Congress called for the observance of Daylight Saving Time or DST, and it stayed in effect until the end of World War II. Notice on the chart below that 1918 was the beginning of a major warming trend that lasted until about 1945, exactly the time period of DST. Was this just a coincidence? Helloooooo! An extra hour of daylight during the summer months and you expect nothing to happen? Not only is it going to get hotter but this warming is accumulative, meaning the temperature will keep rising. That’s exactly what the chart is showing. And what happened in 1945 when it ended? The warming stopped. I mean this isn’t rockette science.

If you think this is nonsense just look at the chart when Congress reinstated DST is 1966. Again, another hour of daylight during the summer months and just like before it got warmer and it is still getting warmer.

Any idiot should be able to see the correlation, I know I can.

Ask the government what is causing the warming and what do they say? Co2! What most people don’t know is co2 is a secret code meaning Change Our clocks 2 times. It’s so obvious I don’t know why nobody picked up on it sooner.

It’s time to Wake Up and do something about it!

As for me I’m going back to bed.


http://e-huh.com/baut/dst-global-warming.jpg


Jim

[KaiYeves]

Co-ocurrance does not prove cause.

[orionjim]

Co-ocurrance does not prove cause.


I can relate to that.

Jim

[Tobin Dax]

Bah, everyone knows that it's the lack of pirates.

[HenrikOlsen]

That has been shown to be wrong, since we have more pirates now than ever before.

[KaiYeves]

That has been shown to be wrong, since we have more pirates now than ever before.
Yes, who do you think makes all of the illegal DVDs?

[HenrikOlsen]

Actually I'm talking about armed guys in boat who capture ships for a living pirates, not internet pirates.

[Torsten]

Re OP: :)

I needed that.

[novaderrik]

i'm sure if one was to do a quick Google search, i'm sure there are entire webrings dedicated to this theory, with Youtube videos and Wikipedia pages to back it all up.

[CodeSlinger]

This morning as I grabbed my alarm clock to leap back an hour (or is it leap forward an hour, I forget)...

A nice mnemonic I heard this week for remembering which way to set your clock: Spring forward, Fall back.

[Noclevername]

Actually I'm talking about armed guys in boat who capture ships for a living pirates, not internet pirates.

What about those who engage in piracy legally, through "Eminent Domain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_Domain)"? They take what isn't theirs (including, no doubt, some boats) and back up their actions with the threat of armed force. :shifty:

[Tobin Dax]

That has been shown to be wrong, since we have more pirates now than ever before.
I'll trust you on this one. I'm a landlubber.


The reason daylight savings time causes global warming is, of course, because the sun's up for an extra hour. :D

[korjik]

A nice mnemonic I heard this week for remembering which way to set your clock: Spring forward, Fall back.

But it's not spring, It shoud be winter forward, fall back

:)

[TheHalcyonYear]

Everything causes global warming. :)

[Gillianren]

But it's not spring, It shoud be winter forward, fall back

:)

Depends on your definition of "spring," of course. By some calendars, spring starts on 1 February and lasts until 1 May.

My thing about Daylight Savings, which I don't really mind, is that it's getting stretched farther and farther. It's almost reached the point where we might as well just move our entire time zones forward an hour, which I do think is silly.

[Noclevername]

Everything causes global warming. :)

Mostly sunlight. :whistle:

[korjik]

Depends on your definition of "spring," of course. By some calendars, spring starts on 1 February and lasts until 1 May.

My thing about Daylight Savings, which I don't really mind, is that it's getting stretched farther and farther. It's almost reached the point where we might as well just move our entire time zones forward an hour, which I do think is silly.

I live in Houston, so technically, my definition of spring is a mythological season created to make us feel better about the weather during not summer.

After all, the seasons are summer and not summer. :)

[TheHalcyonYear]

I live in Houston, so technically, my definition of spring is a mythological season created to make us feel better about the weather during not summer.

After all, the seasons are summer and not summer. :)
I've heard that's what the Hawaiians believe too. :)

[Gillianren]

I live in Houston, so technically, my definition of spring is a mythological season created to make us feel better about the weather during not summer.

After all, the seasons are summer and not summer. :)

Back home, the joke was that the four seasons were fire, flood, wind, and earthquake. Of course, here in Washington, we have the rainy seasons and probably August.

[Jens]

Geez, I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't have DST. We don't have to worry about global warming!

[Noclevername]

Global warming causes Daylight Savings Time.

[NEOWatcher]

A nice mnemonic I heard this week for remembering which way to set your clock: Spring forward, Fall back.
Just now? I thought that one had been general knowledge forever (as in, I've always known it).

But it's not spring, It shoud be winter forward, fall back
:)
Sure, now it is... it wasn't when it started.
Those darn politicians didn't even think of those consequences. How are we ever going to remember it now?

[Roving Philosopher]

After all, the seasons are summer and not summer. :)
Here in Minnesota the seasons are winter and road construction.

[Swift]

Of course, here in Washington, we have the rainy seasons and probably August.
You mean there are years in Washington when you don't have August? :think:

@ Roving Philosopher - Ohio too!

[Doodler]

Its an indirect relationship. DST causes CDS (Cranky Doodler Syndrome) which causes a rapid rise in temperature in March as I howl vile offerings of foul language to the universe for having lost an hour of sleep and being forced to go to work in the dark again.

[Tobin Dax]

You mean there are years in Washington when you don't have August? :think:

Depends on how long the rain lasts. :D
I know most people think that summer lasts three months. One year, a while back, when I was living with my parents in Oregon, it lasted about a Thursday.

[orionjim]

Global warming causes Daylight Savings Time.

How did somebody with the intelligence I have miss that? You are referring to the 1st Law of Thermodynamics where heating causes expansion and cooling cause’s contraction. That explains why the days are longer in the summer and shorter in the winter. And if you make it more hotter, the days will get even longer causing Daylight Saving Time.

That’s brilliant!!!

What we need to do is get Congress to repeal their First Law of Thermodynamics.

Jim

[korjik]

Depends on how long the rain lasts. :D
I know most people think that summer lasts three months. One year, a while back, when I was living with my parents in Oregon, it lasted about a Thursday.

I have yet to see anyone here who actually lives through this 'spring' or 'fall'. Maybe there is a conspiracy to make us think these two seasons exist. I know, it is a govt conspiracy to make us remember a stupid mnemonic, and to cause CDS.

[danscope]

Daylight savingstime relieves stress......in a big way!
Everyone that I have ever met will tell you how much they love having
that extra hour of daylight to "DO" things. A great many things... like GOLF!!!
Or raking the yard....taking a walk while the sun is up, playing with the flowers,
changing your oil, waxing the gremlin.... getting the boat ready for another season. It's all good. That's what daylight savings time is all about. Get it?:D
We got it right when we restored daylight savings time earlier in the year
and let it persist in autumn. It serves us well.
Hmmmm...let's see, bottom paint, spar varnish, some 220,bronze wool,............:D

Best regards, Dan

[NEOWatcher]

DST Causes gas prices to rise (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=84755)
Analysts say that prices will go even higher, maybe 30 to 40 cents, as drivers drive more because there are more daylight hours.
And they extended hours to save energy. :wall:
Didn't we question that logic last year (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/48656-daylight-savings-time-ends-tonight-will-extended-2007-a.html)?

Ok; so gas prices go up, and we cant go out, so we don't drive as much... :think:

[Gillianren]

I have yet to see anyone here who actually lives through this 'spring' or 'fall'. Maybe there is a conspiracy to make us think these two seasons exist. I know, it is a govt conspiracy to make us remember a stupid mnemonic, and to cause CDS.

To be perfectly fair, we do actually have four seasons here. They aren't as distinct as people think seasons "should be," but I who come from Los Angeles County can see a clear difference. And it's more than just the temperature of the rain. It's been warm enough to run to the office of the apartment complex barefoot and in shorts the last few days, though it does get awfully chilly at night (still in just the 30sF). Come summer, it will feel very different, and there will actually be a few days where it gets over 100, but only three or so of them. There will also be days when it's cold and rainy, but I, for one, cherish them as a break from the miserable heat. We even get thunderstorms sometimes, and there's nothing so cool (in at least two senses) as a midsummer thunderstorm. Come fall, there will be all these lovely, cool, crisp, even clear days; the wind will rattle the leaves on the trees (when it isn't raining), and the leaves will be glorious. We even get snow at least once in the winter, though it is often interspersed with rain and, um, freezing rain. (Which I always thought was called sleet, but as we don't have either back home, what do I know?)

[Noclevername]

What we need to do is get Congress to repeal their First Law of Thermodynamics.


That shouldn't be hard, the Laws of Physics have no lobbying groups. ;)

[Trebuchet]

Back home, the joke was that the four seasons were fire, flood, wind, and earthquake. Of course, here in Washington, we have the rainy seasons and probably August.

Be nice Gillian. We often get summer the last couple of weeks of July as well.

In the meantime, I'm back to going to work in the dark. Of course I'm pretty much in the dark all day while I'm there anyhow.

[SeanF]

DST Causes gas prices to rise (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=84755)
Analysts say that prices will go even higher, maybe 30 to 40 cents, as drivers drive more because there are more daylight hours.
And they extended hours to save energy. :wall:
Didn't we question that logic last year (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/48656-daylight-savings-time-ends-tonight-will-extended-2007-a.html)?

Ok; so gas prices go up, and we cant go out, so we don't drive as much... :think:
I would like to know who the analysts are who say that DST causes anything "because there are more daylight hours." :wall:

[Lianachan]

What about the overwhelming majority of the the worlds population, who couldn't care less about what "congress" says anyway? Are you saying global warming is purely down to the US?

[Torsten]

. . . though it is often interspersed with rain and, um, freezing rain. (Which I always thought was called sleet, but as we don't have either back home, what do I know?)

The common definition of sleet, as I understand it, is that it is really wet snow that more or less melts within seconds or minutes of striking the ground: the kind that, when it falls on the windshield of your vehicle, looks like water with little ice crystals in it. I like to call it "chewy rain". If it is just cold enough to accumulate on the ground, you're left with slush. Freezing rain is indeed liquid as it falls, but it turns to ice upon striking the cold ground, or any cold object. Ugggggly stuff.

The old joke about the seasons where I live is that we have ten months of winter and two months of tough sledding (yeah, yeah, others, myself included, have already stated this definition on this board). Actually, last winter the snow remained in my yard until April 23, for a total of 177 days. We're entering what we call "breakup" here now. Daytime temperatures are above freezing, but nights are still generally below freezing. Snow has melted off most roads and if they're dirt or gravel, they're a mucky mess. I won't wash my pickup for another month. There's no point.

And korjik, we actually get spring and fall here. I love 'em both.

[Lianachan]

The common definition of sleet, as I understand it, is that it is really wet snow that more or less melts within seconds or minutes of striking the ground: the kind that, when it falls on the windshield of your vehicle, looks like water with little ice crystals in it. I like to call it "chewy rain". If it is just cold enough to accumulate on the ground, you're left with slush. Freezing rain is indeed liquid as it falls, but it turns to ice upon striking the cold ground, or any cold object. Ugggggly stuff.

The old joke about the seasons where I live is that we have ten months of winter and two months of tough sledding (yeah, yeah, others, myself included, have already stated this definition on this board). Actually, last winter the snow remained in my yard until April 23, for a total of 177 days. We're entering what we call "breakup" here now. Daytime temperatures are above freezing, but nights are still generally below freezing. Snow has melted off most roads and if they're dirt or gravel, they're a mucky mess. I won't wash my pickup for another month. There's no point.

And korjik, we actually get spring and fall here. I love 'em both.

Apart from surprisingly stunning summers, the rest of the year here tends to merge into a grey blur.

[KaiYeves]

Where I live we have Tourist Season and Winter.

[jrkeller]

I live in Houston, so technically, my definition of spring is a mythological season created to make us feel better about the weather during not summer.

After all, the seasons are summer and not summer. :)

Not true. We have our day of winter, spring and fall.

[Delvo]

Freezing rain falls as a liquid and freezes on a surface. Sleet is ice drops/pellets that are already frozen before they fall... frozen rain, really. When you hear people talking about "ice storms", they're normally talking about freezing rain, which is what leaves smooth sheets and layers of ice wrapped around everything, instead of a pile of loose ice pellets like sleet would leave.

[Gillianren]

Thanks for the definitions, guys. I come from a place where people get all shocked when it hits 45, so I never learned much of this as a child.

[jrkeller]

There is actually some evidence that the Daylight Savings Time does increase global warming. Link (http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/eco-friendly/daylight-savings-time-energy-460308)

[Noclevername]

But does Daylight Warming save time?

[Delvo]

I come from a place where people get all shocked when it hits 45Now THAT is a hard concept to wrap my brain around. I've heard stuff like that before, but from people from places like India and Louisiana. Washington doesn't seem like it's supposed to be one of those places!

[Swift]

But does Daylight Warming save time?
Yes. And since time is money and money is the root of all evil, then Daylight Warming saves evil. But Dr. Evil was funny, so Daylight Warming is funny. :eh:

[Gillianren]

Now THAT is a hard concept to wrap my brain around. I've heard stuff like that before, but from people from places like India and Louisiana. Washington doesn't seem like it's supposed to be one of those places!

It isn't. But I didn't grow up here; I grew up in Los Angeles County, down in California. (Actually, it's one of the reasons I moved here in the first place.)

[Jeff Root]

Minnesota has two seasons: Snow Emergency and Pothole Repair.

Okay, we actually have very obvious spring and autumn, but they only last a
week each, at best. I'm going to try to watch real close for spring this year.
I missed almost all of it last year because I slept in that day. I like the color
of the trees right after the leaves come out, and the long grass before the
first time it gets mowed. And before those, the tiny streams of water from
melting snow, running along sidewalks and gutters, making entire river systems
that can only be seen by crouching down close to the ground.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

[tdvance]

There is actually some evidence that the Daylight Savings Time does increase global warming. Link (http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/eco-friendly/daylight-savings-time-energy-460308)

I got to thinking about this over the last two days.

First, yeah, it does seem hotter the time of year we use DST for some reason :)

but more seriously, how are the global temperatures measured? There are lots of ways, but one is checking records of daily highs, lows, averages, current temps, etc. Say thermometer X is used by radio station KWXY every 4pm to give the current temp, and someone diligently records the daily noon temperature. Now, DST, 4pm is suddenly a different time of day. That could have some influence! That wouldn't make the temperature accelerate, but it could change the average.

And that is only one of many things that DST can do--it's a complex system.

And it's like the farmer of legend who ordered a shipment of mosquitoes for his farm because he noticed crops grew best in years there were a lot of mosquitoes (which fare best during rainy years).