Who created God?

[spaceboy0]

Who created God?

[Neverfly]

Nietzsche.

[ravens_cry]

I have an idea that if God exists, then maybe he came from the sea of infinite energy the universe possibly came from. Just like in an infinite string of random numbers (like the decimals of pi or any other irrational number), you can find random pockets of order that come from the joining of random number together, god arose as such a string. Or maybe God is just some kid playing SimUniverse. In that case the answer would be His parents. Of course that isn't much of a final answer. Still, if we ARE going to discuss this, we, I included, must be careful not to get too carried away, threads of this nature tend to get nasty, very quickly.

[Ronald Brak]

Who created God?

Which one?

And this is a historical question rather than a religious one, right? We can answer using historical sources which group of people created which god, but we can't actually get into a religious discussion.

[Chuck]

I think that gods were attempts by primitive people to explain their environment. People made small and simple things so maybe more powerful beings made larger and more complex things. The more ambitious people found that they could take advantage of these beliefs to increase their wealth and power, so organized religions came to be.

[Hans]

Religion -god(s)- were mans first attempt to explain what was happening around him. Science is the second attempt.

[ace holmes]

religion was developed as a primative way to keep the people some what civil to each other such as juddism (religions with death from god as punishment for sin)
and if ur asking who made god that cant be answered just as no one can say what happened at the big bang no one was there to observe it

[sarongsong]

Who created God?Define God, please.

[Drunk Vegan]

I did.

My bad.

[Frog march]

It's a good question.

The nature of God maybe something that we can only strive to understand.

Would an ant ever understand the Apollo program ?

[Neverfly]

Would an ant ever understand the concept of going to the moon?

I find analogies like these unrealistic.

Would a spiral galaxy feel like water circling a drain?

We are not ants. Ants are not intelligent.

[Frog march]

well, I do think that ants have a degree of intelligence.

what about a mouse then?

[Neverfly]

well, I do think that ants have a degree of intelligence.

what about a mouse then?

Ants depict insect intelligence- something we are achieving with computers.
Ants follow 'programing" but lack self awareness.
A mouse does not and cannot contemplate the Universe. It follows its programing too. It can think more than an ant can- but Humans contemplate the Universe, unknowns etc.

On Topic- No animal (aside from human animals) demonstrates religion or God worship.

[Frog march]

The point I was making was that a mouse, who might contemplate where his next meal is coming from and think about hawks in trees, may be similar, in contemplating the Apollo program, to humans contemplating "where God came from".

I think that a mouse has strong instinct, but ultimately, it has to think for its self.

[HenrikOlsen]

But that analogy presupposes that an Apollo program is part of the mental imagery of a mouse.

[Sticks]

Before this thread is locked here are some reports of scientific studies on religion

All from the BBC

God on the Brain (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2865009.stm)

Neurotheology - The God-Shaped Hole in the Head (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A933635)

The Evolutionary Advantages of Faith (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A934283)

God on the Brain - The BBC Horizon science programme (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/godonbrain.shtml)

[Frog march]

But that analogy presupposes that an Apollo program is part of the mental imagery of a mouse.

maybe it isn't a great analogy, but I was just trying to say that the answer to the question of where God came from, maybe require a wee bit of a mental leap in mental ability, and just because we may not come up with an answer, doesn't mean that it isn't answerable.

[Frog march]

Before this thread is locked here are some reports of scientific studies on religion

All from the BBC

God on the Brain (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2865009.stm)

Neurotheology - The God-Shaped Hole in the Head (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A933635)

The Evolutionary Advantages of Faith (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A934283)

God on the Brain - The BBC Horizon science programme (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/godonbrain.shtml)


yes, the brain is complex, but it is how we perceive reality, and who is to say that experiences of some people with neurological disorders means that all religious experiences are the product, purely, of brain chemistry?

If someone on LSD perceives a giant ball bouncing around their room, does that logical lead to the conclusion that there are no balls in reality?

[antoniseb]

spaceboy0 is officially warned. We have a rule against religious discussion here. The reason for the rule is that such discussion can rarely happen without offending some group of people.

BTW, the thread is closed as sticks successfully predicted.