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Gemini
19-July-2008, 10:22 PM
As part of my birthday celebration, My family attended the Fifth Annual Apollo Saturn reunion at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville.
We stayed at the RV park that was attached to the museum. Behind our RV were two of the fairings that went with the Saturn V that was now part of the Davidson Center in addition to some other rocket parts grown up in the weeds. At the reunion itself, we ate dinnner under the refurbished Saturn V (The S-IVB specifically); the food was suprisingly decent.
After dinner, I got up and toured the museum and rocket park. It looked a bit naked without the Saturn V there. Owen Garriot, Story Musgrave, Jim Maser (Pratt &Whitney rocketdyne president) , Paul Calle (NASA Fine Arts), and Steve Cook( MSFC Ares director ) all spoke at the event. It was followed by a spectacular fire works kicked of the with the Star Trek: the Next Generartion theme.
Some photos from the event
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/OV-104/SMG.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/OV-104/S-IVB.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/OV-104/SatV.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/OV-104/DCPan.jpg
Neverfly
19-July-2008, 10:34 PM
Is that a cigar in your hand?
Gemini
19-July-2008, 10:37 PM
Is that a cigar in your hand?
lol,
It's actually a pen I borrowed to get Conrad Dannenburg's autograph. I was going to ask Story for his I didn't get the chance to.
Gemini
19-July-2008, 10:41 PM
Also, the ISS made a pass overhead (where else?) during the fireworks show. I don't care who you are, that's cool right there (Larry the Cable Guy voice)
ngc3314
20-July-2008, 03:25 AM
Aaaargh! What's with the news these days? I could have made that one and had no clue it was being held... Must console myself with an anniversary viewing tomorrow of the Spacecraft Films Apollo 11 discs.
KaiYeves
20-July-2008, 10:41 PM
Your pictures are making me miss Space Camp already. How the heck am I supposed to make it a whole year? :-(
Jeff Root
21-July-2008, 05:04 AM
WOW!! Conrad Dannenberg is still around?! He was an old guy when I saw
him at the International Space Development Conference in Huntsville way
back in 1993. That's 15 years ago. He gave a slide presentation in the
auditorium at the Space and Rocket Center about the work the German
rocket scientists did after they came to the US. I told him afterward that
his presentation alone was worth my entire trip from Minneapolis.
I'm surprised at the number of large Saturn V models in your photos.
The full-size horizontal one in sections inside the building is obviously the
same one I saw horizontal in sections on the ground outdoors. It looks
nicely-restored. How big is the vertical one outdoors? Where did it come
from? I know there were three Saturn V's left over, two of them were
flyable, the other was the first built and never meant to fly. I don't recall
which is which. The other two are at KSC and JSC. That standing one
looks like it could be a full-size model, which really surprises me. Building
it would have been an enormous effort and expense.
That is a Saturn IB standing in the distance on the far left is near the
front gate to the center, if I recall correctly? It was a surprise to see
the one beside the interstate highway upon entering Alabama.
-- Jeff, in Minneapolis
Torsten
21-July-2008, 05:36 AM
Hey Gemini, that's a totally cool birthday celebration!
ngc3314
21-July-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm surprised at the number of large Saturn V models in your photos.
The full-size horizontal one in sections inside the building is obviously the
same one I saw horizontal in sections on the ground outdoors. It looks
nicely-restored. How big is the vertical one outdoors? Where did it come
from? I know there were three Saturn V's left over, two of them were
flyable, the other was the first built and never meant to fly. I don't recall
which is which. The other two are at KSC and JSC. That standing one
looks like it could be a full-size model, which really surprises me. Building
it would have been an enormous effort and expense.
That is a Saturn IB standing in the distance on the far left is near the
front gate to the center, if I recall correctly? It was a surprise to see
the one beside the interstate highway upon entering Alabama.
The upright one is indeed a full-scale model, finished just in time for the 30th anniversary commemoration in 1999. The original plan was to add a mockup launch tower which would include restaurants, etc., a plan which didn't survive economic realities. The actual one recently restored and put indoors is mostly engineering articles with (IIRC) a bit of potential flight hardware included.
The Saturn IB at the museum is distinct from the one at the welcome center on I-65 southbound entering Alabama, neither of which should to be confused with the Saturn IB (with nose cone, without Apollo) still standing in the rocket garden on base at MSFC. They seem to have had a lot of those left long around. Related trivia: the von Braun Astronomical Society runs a nice observatory and planetarium on the outskirts of Huntsville, on Monte Sano. The planetarium dome started life as the fiberglass shipping cover for the forward tank bulkhead of one of the big Saturn V stages.
JustAFriend
22-July-2008, 12:52 AM
My son and went out of our way to stop there in Huntsville on our annual family driving vacation (my wife had to fly back part way through the trip to return to work).
It was our first-ever visit and we had a great time.
Gemini
25-July-2008, 09:16 PM
The USSRC has posted a photo gallery of the event. I've even spotted myself in a few (sort of like playing where's waldo).
http://www.spacecamp.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=69
Jeff Root
26-July-2008, 03:23 PM
Gemini,
I notice in your photos and the USSRC photos large, white circles at intervals
along the walls around the interior of the hall, about ten feet above the floor.
Would you happen to know what they are? Oh-- nevermind. Looks like they
are just light fixtures.
-- Jeff, in Minneapolis
KaiYeves
26-July-2008, 08:43 PM
Yup, those are light fixtures.
suntrack2
28-July-2008, 02:49 PM
Gemini very nice photos showing to us, in the photo you are from..left or from right!! the reunion photos are very rare to see actually. thanks for showing.
Please always show me photos. :) I get a great amusement by looking the photos, infact I share my family members to see such sort of photos, of that area.
sunil
ngc3314
29-July-2008, 12:08 AM
Please always show me photos. :) I get a great amusement by looking the photos, in fact I share my family members to see such sort of photos, of that area.
I'll jump in since you asked :) Here's another one - a few years ago, I taught a class called "Aerospace Science for Educators", so I took the whole bunch of future teachers to the Huntsville museum. Here's the official class picture (it's an animated GIF, may take a few seconds...):
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/aem120/aem120class.gif
Neverfly
29-July-2008, 12:55 AM
I'll jump in since you asked :) Here's another one - a few years ago, I taught a class called "Aerospace Science for Educators", so I took the whole bunch of future teachers to the Huntsville museum. Here's the official class picture (it's an animated GIF, may take a few seconds...):
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/aem120/aem120class.gif
OkWhat happened?
I clicked on it...
suddenly people popped up.
Then they multiplied.
Gemini
29-July-2008, 03:43 AM
The upright one is indeed a full-scale model, finished just in time for the 30th anniversary commemoration in 1999. The original plan was to add a mockup launch tower which would include restaurants, etc., a plan which didn't survive economic realities. The actual one recently restored and put indoors is mostly engineering articles with (IIRC) a bit of potential flight hardware included.
The Saturn mockup is made up of parts from SA-500F and D. The CM is a boilerplate that flew on a pad abort test and a Little Joe II flight.
I've visited the Center on several Birthdays including 1999 to see the
new Saturn V mock up and 2004 to see the Liberty Bell 7.
Jeff Root
29-July-2008, 04:51 AM
Here's another one - a few years ago, I taught a class called "Aerospace
Science for Educators", so I took the whole bunch of future teachers to
the Huntsville museum. Here's the official class picture (it's an animated
GIF, may take a few seconds...):
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/aem120/aem120class.gif
Several minutes at dial-up speed.
The GIF is way bigger than it should be, in terms of file size, because
ten of the 17 frames are duplicates. You have an unnecessary copy
of the first frame and nine unnecessary copies of the last frame! The
GIF kept on downloading and kept on downloading but there were no
more new images.
Each frame has a number attached to it which is the length of time
to display that frame in hundredths of a second, from 0 to 99,999.
Your frames are all set to 100, or one second each. The first frame
could be set to 200 and the last frame to 1000 to give the same
timing, with only seven frames instead of 17.
-- Jeff, in Minnneapolis
Jay200MPH
29-July-2008, 09:31 AM
I'll jump in since you asked :) Here's another one - a few years ago, I taught a class called "Aerospace Science for Educators", so I took the whole bunch of future teachers to the Huntsville museum. Here's the official class picture (it's an animated GIF, may take a few seconds...):
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/aem120/aem120class.gif
Hey, I just noticed something... How come the flag is waving when there's NO WIND??? Fake!
- J
Neverfly
29-July-2008, 09:51 AM
Hey, I just noticed something... How come the flag is waving when there's NO WIND??? Fake!
- J
Notice in the last frame: NGC was falling over...
Obviously, the supposed "atmosphere" was moving (wind) and it blew him over.
This PROVES that the Moon has water.
suntrack2
29-July-2008, 10:53 AM
I'll jump in since you asked :) Here's another one - a few years ago, I taught a class called "Aerospace Science for Educators", so I took the whole bunch of future teachers to the Huntsville museum. Here's the official class picture (it's an animated GIF, may take a few seconds...):
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/aem120/aem120class.gif
wow, fine photos, infact there was a great flud of photo(s) :), interesting union in front of the apollo model, is that model real, is it made of fibre plastic, or made of alluminium !!
I will 100% share this comedy photo, in which one by one multiplication of images appearing, I was grumbled. :)
thanks for your interest in linking us to view this precious reunion photos.
but I have a question if this is a apollo reunion photo, then what was the actual capacity of apollo especially it's seating capacity. !!
sunil
Jeff Root
29-July-2008, 11:25 AM
Seating capacity of the Apollo lunar module is probably 3 people: Two on
the floor and one on the ascent engine cover. However, people can only
sit inside the LM while the LM is in turn sitting on something. I don't know
whether anyone was allowed to sit on the engine cover while the LM was
sitting on the Earth, and there were never three people inside the LM while
the LM was sitting on the Moon, so the seating capacity was probably
never maxed out.
There was standing-room-only for the landings and takeoffs, though.
-- Jeff, in Minneapolis
Neverfly
29-July-2008, 11:39 AM
Seating capacity of the Apollo lunar module is probably 3 people: Two on
the floor and one on the ascent engine cover. However, people can only
sit inside the LM while the LM is in turn sitting on something. I don't know
whether anyone was allowed to sit on the engine cover while the LM was
sitting on the Earth, and there were never three people inside the LM while
the LM was sitting on the Moon, so the seating capacity was probably
never maxed out.
There was standing-room-only for the landings and takeoffs, though.
-- Jeff, in Minneapolis
Apollo 13 maxxed out the LEM's floating capacity, as well.
Occam
29-July-2008, 11:43 AM
Wow! I'd give my eye teeth to go there. Unfortunately, it seems they only accept money :D
NGC3314 - Not wishing to lower the tone but why, WHY did none of my teachers ever look like that? I would have stayed in school longer.
ngc3314
29-July-2008, 02:26 PM
The GIF is way bigger than it should be, in terms of file size, because
ten of the 17 frames are duplicates. You have an unnecessary copy
of the first frame and nine unnecessary copies of the last frame! The
GIF kept on downloading and kept on downloading but there were no
more new images.
Each frame has a number attached to it which is the length of time
to display that frame in hundredths of a second, from 0 to 99,999.
Your frames are all set to 100, or one second each. The first frame
could be set to 200 and the last frame to 1000 to give the same
timing, with only seven frames instead of 17.
-- Jeff, in Minnneapolis
Sorry about that. That was done a few years ago when I had even less experience at using the whirlgif Unix tool, and apparently I opted for a shorter command to put it together (probably since I never figured anyone outside of the campus network would look at it). In fact, I have no recollection at all of duplicating the frames to get duration. This is sad. This is what can happen when you use a brain which is 9 months older than NASA.
The guy at the end is clearly having trouble with the whole 1/6g thing.
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