cern tests

[ozzmosis]

hey guys

did you guys read the news they started cern tests, well the first one is just a run around see if everything is a ok, not sure about the collision if its next week.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/10/scicern910.xml

Experiments at CERN help us understand the world we live in - Telegraph

anyways its kind of scary what could happen if something goes wrong,
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[Fazor]

check out the numerous threads in the gen. sci. section. And don't worry about if something goes wrong. Even if it does, it will not be the kind of catastrophic event that people dream it will be.

[Chuck]

I knew they were testing when I felt the first tug of a small black hole.

[Salty]

Actually, I found that my browser provided a mini-hadron collider on my desktop.

I'll fire it up, and hope for a mini tiny black hole. Maybe it will swallow a few things which irratate me. Maybe I can put mtBH in back yard, and it would swallow what the dog dumps.

I'm quite sure that it's cheaper to collide my mini-hadrons, than it is for CERN to collide their large hadrons.

Yes, I'm feeling frisky, today.

[NEOWatcher]

did you guys read the news they started cern tests...
Oh; is that what they were talking about in that thread that's discussing specific news about LHC (http://www.bautforum.com/general-science/78639-large-hadron-collider-lhc-news.html)? :doh::lol:

Maybe we just need to change the title of one of the Babbling threads to be "LHC/CERN - The lighter side."
It would help keep some of the jokes out of the more serious ones.

anyways its kind of scary what could happen if something goes wrong,
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Sure; IF it goes wrong, it would be scary. But; did you notice that to me that's one heck of a big if? I think the chances are virtually non-existant.

Anyway; I alread heard on the radio (CBS?) the report about how the test proved it was safe. :wall:

[Fazor]

Sure; IF it goes wrong, it would be scary. But; did you notice that to me that's one heck of a big if? I think the chances are virtually non-existant.


I still disagree. I mean, it's scarey for anyone working there. Or possibly in close proximity. But from what I've read, the biggest danger would be something like a large structure fire. Disasters of the every-day variety.

The "quantum" dangers all seem to share a trait with their name: "Small" dangers that wouldn't affect a large area/large number of people.

Then again, what do I know? It's all way past my scope of knowlege.

[NEOWatcher]

I still disagree. I mean...
Ok I understand what your saying; so let me clarify my assumed context here...
Scary from the doomsday prediction assumptions, and even then, scary for our great great great great (times whatever) grandchildren.

[ozzmosis]

Oh; is that what they were talking about in that thread that's discussing specific news about LHC (http://www.bautforum.com/general-science/78639-large-hadron-collider-lhc-news.html)? :doh::lol:

Maybe we just need to change the title of one of the Babbling threads to be "LHC/CERN - The lighter side."
It would help keep some of the jokes out of the more serious ones.


Sure; IF it goes wrong, it would be scary. But; did you notice that to me that's one heck of a big if? I think the chances are virtually non-existant.

Anyway; I alread heard on the radio (CBS?) the report about how the test proved it was safe. :wall:


so your an expert and your 100% sure nothen is gona go wrong..and you do have a Doctoral scholarship in quantum physics and you do know the out come hmm.,,,intresting

[Swift]

so your an expert and your 100% sure nothen is gona go wrong..and you do have a Doctoral scholarship in quantum physics and you do know the out come hmm.,,,intresting
Ozzmosis,

If you are interested in a serious discussion about the risks (more closer to the lack of risks) from the LHC, you should take it to several on-going threads about it in General Science.

This is Off-Topic Babbling and not an appropriate spot for serious science.

But NEOWatcher and others are correct, there is no credible evidence of a danger.

[NEOWatcher]

so your an expert and your 100% sure nothen is gona go wrong..and you do have a Doctoral scholarship in quantum physics and you do know the out come hmm.,,,intresting
Where did I say 100%? and where did I claim that I am basing this on on my own research?

Yes; I'm going by what I see in various sources and gut feel, and I have formulated my own opinion.

But NEOWatcher and others are correct, there is no credible evidence of a danger.
Thank you.

[Fazor]

so your an expert and your 100% sure nothen is gona go wrong..and you do have a Doctoral scholarship in quantum physics and you do know the out come hmm.,,,intresting

Here's the 2008 LSAG Report (http://cern.ch/lsag/LSAG-Report.pdf), concluding that there is no big danger.

And here's the CERN/LHC Safety information page (http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html) where I found the link to the report. The page also contains numerous links to pertinent information.

While most of us here are not PhD's in quantum physics...and many of us (like myself) are not PhD's at all...we did do some research before arriving at our conclusions. I respectfully suggest you do the same before you start with the accusatory tones.

[Pippin]

Indeed after quite a lengthy discussion in the general science section, I've concluded that the LHC is perfectly safe. CERN is in fact incapable of doing all of the scary stuff they had claimed to be investigating on their website. On a particularly funny note, I recently returned to their site and found that all previous references to studying "black holes" have now been changed to studying "micro black holes".
Hey maybe all my griping did work! Now if they just get rid of or clarify their line about particles appearing out of extra-dimensional space I'll be satisfied!
This is off topic babbling, don't hurt me!

[Swift]

In case anyone is concerned, you should check out the International Earth-Destruction Advisory Board (http://qntm.org/?board).

http://qntm.org/files/afd_board/0.png

Oh wait! This just in!

It is our duty to inform you that as of 7:35:05am UTC on September 10, 2008, the Earth has been destroyed.

The destruction of Earth was first reported by Mr Jonathan Barber of Wisconsin, United States, who spotted that his home-made seismic Earth Detector had ceased to give readings at around 8:00am (2am local time). Several other amateur geocide spotters noticed this at the same time but Mr. Barber was the first to place a telephone call to the IEDAB's Geocide Hotline (+44 115 09Ω 4127, ask for Other Dave) at which point IEDAB officials performed an emergency check of their own instrumentation and verified Mr. Barber's report, as well as fixing the exact time of geocide.

Evidence is still being collated, but preliminary results suggest that the Earth was destroyed pre-emptively by scientists at the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, Geneva, Switzerland, before the commencement of their experiments to locate the Higgs Boson, as a precautionary measure to ensure that the experiment itself could not result in the destruction of the Earth.

[suntrack2]

That news is rocking here through the newspapers and television. Good job.

[NEOWatcher]

In case anyone is concerned, you should check out the International Earth-Destruction Advisory Board (http://qntm.org/?board).


Some of you will find it tougher to let go than others. There will be counselling sessions running on Pluto starting in mid-April. The first is at 7:15pm on Thursday 18th. BYOO2.

Uhm, hasn't the planet Pluto been destroyed also? :think:

[Neverfly]

Uhm, hasn't the planet Pluto been destroyed also? :think:

Nope. Just demoted.

[Pippin]

Nope. Just demoted.
Good point , CERN should have set up shop there, then noone would have to worry about them destroying a planet!! :lol:

[Neverfly]

Good point , CERN should have set up shop there, then noone would have to worry about them destroying a planet!! :lol:

We still don't have to worry.:neutral:

[Swift]

Good point , CERN should have set up shop there, then noone would have to worry about them destroying a planet!! :lol:
GREAT IDEA. Plus, think how much money we'd save on liquid helium to cool the magnets. And who care about little things like a breathable atmosphere, that's why they invented graduate students.

[suntrack2]

there was a rumour after the event started(of that LHC) A man died due to heart attack here nearby my city in India, because someone(may be natorious) told him that as soon as the experiment will start the earth will be no more. :(

what is your opinion on the above lines.!!

[NEOWatcher]

there was a rumour after the event started [...]
what is your opinion on the above lines.!!
No real surprise. Heart attacks can happen even with the smallest of fear.
Whether the rumor is true? Well; I have a feeling it was more of a coincidence or last straw type of situation to make it plausible.

But; Have you heard of the Indian girl suicide? It was discussed elsewhere here on the board (I'd provide a link, but the boards starting to go wonky again).

ETA: Wow; I guess the wonkiness affected me more than I thought. The thread I mentioned is this one... I'll just quietly walk away...

[alexvorn2]

The end of the world is coming ... not now. :)

[ozzmosis]

on a fine note.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

[suntrack2]

The end of the world is coming ... not now. :)

ya, but after thousands of years the system may change
a. environment may change, b. water levels may change, c.ice may grow on earth, d. summer season may be worsen, d. rainy season may be prolong for 5-6 months in a year. Then the survival of the "life" !! only that time will tell the definition. :)

You know the media is a kind of thing who can make a small niddle turn into a great biggest rod. (they do not worry about the consequences), it seem to be, not sure.

[suntrack2]

one link is here just read it. !!

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Hackers_Attack_Large_Hadron_Collider/551-93170-582.html