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brink
31-March-2009, 08:32 PM
Ok Ok.. I came across these images today.. one from SOHO and one from Google Earth and I'm trying to get some verification as to what the heck these things are..

First: SOHO 3/31 -- What in the world is the bright object at the bottom?
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3345/latest.jpg


Second: What the heck is this (Star?) that has a blue tail like it's headed straight for the camera... I actually saw this in a stupid Nibiru video.. but when I looked at it a little more closely I realized that the image stands out more so then anything else in the whole Leo constellation. CORDS: 09:47:27, 13:16:27
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2744/image1kfg.jpg


Thanks for the help.

Joe

Amber Robot
31-March-2009, 09:32 PM
First: SOHO 3/31 -- What in the world is the bright object at the bottom?


Probably a planet. Does it move at a different rate than the background stars? If not, then it might be a bright star.




Second: What the heck is this (Star?) that has a blue tail like it's headed straight for the camera... I actually saw this in a stupid Nibiru video.. but when I looked at it a little more closely I realized that the image stands out more so then anything else in the whole Leo constellation. CORDS: 09:47:27, 13:16:27


I don't see it on my Google Sky. Sorry.

schlaugh
31-March-2009, 09:34 PM
The first image shows Mercury passing behind the Sun, especially since it's moving in a right to left motion relative to SOHO (if you look at the animations for the dates that end today on the SOHO site.)

Mercury just went through Superior Conjunction (http://www.heavens-above.com/planetsummary.asp?Session=kebgcogdepagpdfmlcbjlfia )on March 31, 2009.

No clue on the second image.

brink
31-March-2009, 10:16 PM
Top view the second image you need to go to the left bar options on Google Earth.

> Featured Observatories
>IRAS Infrared Sky
> IRAS Infrared Sky
> IRAS Overlay


Enabled all of those for IRAS imaging. Then look at these cords:
09:47:27, 13:16:27

Whatever it is, it looks nasty.

brink
31-March-2009, 10:19 PM
Also, you can just visit.

http://www.google.com/sky/


Type in
09:47:27, 13:16:27

Click Infrared and it's starring you in the face.

grant hutchison
31-March-2009, 10:24 PM
Whatever it is, it looks nasty.I'd guess it's a planet caught in the IRAS field: it's right on the ecliptic. We'd need to know the date of the image used to be sure.

Grant Hutchison

brink
01-April-2009, 02:10 AM
So... anyone else have a suggestion?

How can we determine this information?

ngc3314
01-April-2009, 03:18 AM
From IRAS: wouldn't be Jupiter, since it was so bright that IRAS urned off its detectors when scanning past it (accounting for two long missing crescents in its survey). Mercury and Venus are out because IRAS had fixed solar arrays and sunshade, and always pointed nearly 90 degrees to the Sun. IRAS operated from January-November 1983. Saturn was already past Leo (it was there in 1979, I remember taking pictures of a conjunction with Mars and Jupiter also in Leo). Sooo - where was Mars? Could be - a quick check of the heavens-above interactive chart shows that Mars went right through that piece of western Leo in early September 1983 (at the right declination as well).

I can't find immediately when IRAS scanned that area from ADS (I suspect Mars saturated the detectors, so there was no science analysis or calibration use possible), but it would have been roughly when Mars was at quadrature 90 degrees from the Sun. No, that's not it; Mars was in roughly the right area but only about 30 degrees from the Sun.

How about large asteroids? I looked at the Aladin output for the IRAS catalog of asteroid sightings. Nothing especially bright in this part of the sky. Move along, nothing to see here...

Next try: look at the IRAS sky maps using Skyview. Whoa, there it is, bright enough for streak artifacts at 12 microns. Check coordinates - that's just about where CW Leonis is, a long-period variable and carbon star. Ahhhhh, the ADS shows that this is also known as IRC +10216, which rings a bell as a dust-shrouded star which is among the brightest IR sources in the sky. Knowing that, I can get the IRAS fluxes, which are the brightest for any object I've ever checked (being a galaxy type and all). That sure looks like the ID.

rommel543
01-April-2009, 05:24 PM
look at the following location in IR as well:
13:16:38, -5:12:40.7
I'm thinking that it was an anomaly in the IR such as a object moving through the frame, it was then cut out of the overlay because it wasn't useful for it to be there (not a 'permanent' fixture like a star). When you zoom in you can see the REALLY bad photoshop work.

rommel543
01-April-2009, 05:25 PM
The other attachment didn't go up....

ppp0ppp
18-November-2009, 05:06 AM
Second: What the heck is this (Star?) that has a blue tail like it's headed straight for the camera... I actually saw this in a stupid Nibiru video.. but when I looked at it a little more closely I realized that the image stands out more so then anything else in the whole Leo constellation. CORDS: 09:47:27, 13:16:27
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2744/image1kfg.jpg
Joe
Hi, my first post btw.
That infra picture real cordinates are 09:47:57, 13:16:44
imo, and i found red star no shining, left side from two red shining stars

test http://www.google.com/sky/ and 09:47:57, 13:16:44
put infra on(see that mystery), then zoom in(keep mouse midle of that infra) to little red star,
then put mouse just over that red star and zoom out(dont move mouse) and its just there wheres that mystery infra colours !!!
What it is ? :surprised

Veeger
18-November-2009, 12:04 PM
Now that you people have discovered that object, black helicopters will soon be circling your houses.

It's a non-permanent object, probably a planet, that happened to be in the frame at the time the exposure was made. Somebody, obiously tried to blackened it out. Since the cost and time it requires to undertake a sky survey proabably does not warrrant, going back and reimaging for a minor defect.

(Besides, the latest news from woo-woo land is Nibiru is either visible only from the south polar regions or it is on the other side of the sun. Not in the middle of Leo. :) )

ppp0ppp
18-November-2009, 08:39 PM
It's a non-permanent object, probably a planet
(Besides, the latest news from woo-woo land is Nibiru is either visible only from the south polar regions or it is on the other side of the sun. Not in the middle of Leo. :) )
Probably planet, no name that planet? or is it maybe that what some called that planetX? Or is it some random course planet?

And its moving? and what i watched in wikisky with ultraviolet, massive blue ring all over it, lookin great.
Wikisky pics need to be then same 2007 old like googlemap pictures.
http://wikisky.org/ 09:47:57, 13:16:44 and take DSS ultraviolet

I just thinkin that nibiru woowoo thing why no one give new real proofs is it that planet or is it bull*hit all planet. Updated pictures from middle of Leo, is that planet still there or is it moved. Or is it somewhere else in sky. And nowhere in forums what i found nothing reality topics that "nibiru" only some doomsday or world end topics. Why no one who know about all from space say nothing with proofs? No real proofs and that all planetX rumor only groving :liar: Ofc if that planet is there but then everybody are quiet :whistle:

This planetx story is interesting, but i believe only after when see my own eyes (or proofs from trusted source.)
And its good to cut wings from rumors, cause nothing world ends not come 2012, if planetx is even true it is already make many many circles over sun and still we are here :lol:

Veeger
19-November-2009, 12:15 AM
Probably planet, no name that planet? or is it maybe that what some called that planetX? Or is it some random course planet?


I can tell you without doubt, it is not some random planet and it is not the so-called planet-x. I can not tell you which planet it is. First someone would need to tell me the date the exposure was taken, then I could answer that question more specifically.

ppp0ppp
19-November-2009, 03:02 AM
thx for answers.
I just found name, its read just there, im blind. Its some PGC 1427054
http://server6.wikisky.org/starview?object_type=2&object_id=159228


"Besides, the latest news from woo-woo land is Nibiru is either visible only from the south polar regions or it is on the other side of the sun."
I live in north Europe :doh:

Latest woo-woo news what i found from other forum, who knows:
"You'll be seeing it soon enough with the naked eye.
According to Gilbert Erikson (Ericson), it can be best seen with a telescope using an infrared lens. Nibiru, he says, is in the Right Assension at 18 degrees, 5 minutes. It is at the tip of Saggitarius and Scorpio, dead center at the tip of the arrow. (This was a week ago.)" posted 10/28/2009

But never mind, need wait if see it or not :shifty:

Veeger
19-November-2009, 11:40 AM
According to Gilbert Erikson (Ericson), it can be best seen with a telescope using an infrared lens. Nibiru, he says, is in the Right Assension at 18 degrees, 5 minutes. It is at the tip of Saggitarius and Scorpio, dead center at the tip of the arrow. (This was a week ago.)" posted 10/28/2009

But never mind, need wait if see it or not :shifty:

I await anxiously.