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jrkeller
13-February-2004, 12:28 AM
I use Netscape and Internet Explorer equally. Just wondering what others use.

frenat
13-February-2004, 12:39 AM
I use IE 6 but lately have been having some trouble with some websites and have used Mozilla. I would stay from netscape. Mozilla is the same browser without all the extra crap.

Lurker
13-February-2004, 01:25 AM
I stayed with Netscape for a long time, but it is just not reliable enough... I don't like it, but I am using IE now....

Humphrey
13-February-2004, 04:19 AM
Netscape Forever!!!

Madcat
13-February-2004, 04:29 AM
Mosaic, all the way! 8)

386 4 life!

Pi Man
13-February-2004, 05:41 AM
So, who wants to start a pool on how long it will be before DH posts on this thread? :D

Dark Helmet
13-February-2004, 06:58 AM
Mozilla firefox (formerly firebird) uses the gekko engine of netscape, do I count it as that, or other?

but I have used Opera before and is okay, could be better (and free) :P

but I can not live without tabbed browsing. it is too hard to go back to multiple browser windows.

Humphrey
13-February-2004, 07:01 AM
Yes tabbed browsing rules. :-)

I am really shocked that I.E. does not have it yet.

boppa
13-February-2004, 07:30 AM
opera rules

no popups,no home page hijacking,tab windows and its fast(and on dialup thats a major consideration)
why anyone still uses internet destroyer is beyond me (probably the same people that think windoze is a good o/s) :evil:

captain swoop
13-February-2004, 12:14 PM
I use Mozilla and Safari

frenat
13-February-2004, 12:15 PM
You can download crazy browser from here
http://www.crazybrowser.com/
Basically it is a plugin for IE. It adds tabbed browsing and a popup killer among other things.

xbck1
13-February-2004, 03:50 PM
Heh, looks like the 'something else' is winning! Go alternate browsers, booyah!

parejkoj
13-February-2004, 04:28 PM
Mozilla Firefox/Firebird (the name changed recently) or Mozilla 1.x (depending on which machine I'm on). Best broswer on the planet, hands down.

If you were worried before (it took a while for Mozilla to shrink and stablize), don't worry now: it has improved drastically in the past year or so. If you had problems with Netscape, try this (no AOL bits!).

http://www.mozilla.org/

Sorry to rant, but I love it!

DreadCthulhu
14-February-2004, 01:38 AM
Firefox user here. With its tabs, built-in pop up blocking, proper .png support, and full CSS complience, I don't see why anyone would use IE anymore.


For those wondering about .png support, try this demo down here in IE and then compare it in a modern browser like Firefox or Opera.
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/demos/eagle-sun.html


And here is a neat page showing CSS, and what IE can't do.
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo.html

Spacewriter
14-February-2004, 02:00 AM
MO-ZILLA!!!!

JohnOwens
14-February-2004, 02:55 AM
My actual favourite is Galeon, which is the Mozilla Gecko engine with a Gnome front-end on it, but that seems to be getting abandoned, and the current unstable version just sucks compared to the old stable one, so I'm using plain vanilla Mozilla more and more now.

P.S. Tabbed browsing rules!

Captain Kidd
15-February-2004, 12:35 AM
I've been tracking that on a site I manage.
IE is used 92% of the time.
Mozilla: 4.2%
Netscape: 2.1%
Unknown(?): 0.8%
Safari: 0.3%
Firebird: 0.1%
Opera: <0.1%
WebTV: <0.1%

I use Mozilla. Go tabs!

Jack Higgins
15-February-2004, 01:11 AM
CrazyBrowser.

Go ta-abs! Go ta-abs! :D

Dark Helmet
15-February-2004, 01:18 AM
My actual favourite is Galeon, which is the Mozilla Gecko engine with a Gnome front-end on it, but that seems to be getting abandoned, and the current unstable version just sucks compared to the old stable one, so I'm using plain vanilla Mozilla more and more now.

P.S. Tabbed browsing rules!

Gnome 2.4 uses Epiphany which is gecko with a GTK2+ frontend, galeon is being depreciated for Epiphany instaed for future GNOME releases, IIRC.

p.s. who here thinks that konqueror is a pretty ho-hum browser?

JohnOwens
17-February-2004, 02:05 AM
My actual favourite is Galeon, which is the Mozilla Gecko engine with a Gnome front-end on it, but that seems to be getting abandoned, and the current unstable version just sucks compared to the old stable one, so I'm using plain vanilla Mozilla more and more now.

P.S. Tabbed browsing rules!

Gnome 2.4 uses Epiphany which is gecko with a GTK2+ frontend, galeon is being depreciated for Epiphany instaed for future GNOME releases, IIRC.

I know, I know, I tried Epiphany for a while. Much, much more "ick" than Mozilla, so I've decided on the plain Mozilla when I can't have my Galeon.

SeanF
17-February-2004, 07:47 PM
Alright, you Mozilla gurus, I downloaded and installed it, now help me out on something . . .

When I used IE to browse the BABB, I would do it almost strictly by keyboard . . . I would click on the first unread topic, read through it, then hit Alt-CurserLeft to go back a page to the topic listing. Then, just a couple of Shift-Tabs would take me up to the next unread topic, and I'd hit enter to go into that one. Wash, rinse, repeat.

With Mozilla, whenever I hit Alt-CursorLeft to go back a page to the topic list, it repositions the cursor to the menu bar instead of leaving it at the last link I clicked on that page! So, I either need to grab the mouse to click the next topic, or Tab all the way through all the page header links and what not to get to it by keyboard.

Any way I can make it leave the cursor on the last link I clicked on that page?

Stregone
17-February-2004, 07:51 PM
On my version of Mozilla Firefox alt+left arrow is 'Back'. Go up to the menu bar under 'Go' and see what the key combo for back is shown as.

JohnOwens
17-February-2004, 07:55 PM
Alright, you Mozilla gurus, I downloaded and installed it, now help me out on something . . .

This won't be a direct answer to your question, since I use Mozilla on Linux, so the alt-arrow stuff is a bit different, but...

What I do is to make sure that in the Preferences, in Tabbed Browsing, "Load links in the background" and "Open tabs instead of windows for: Middle-click,... on links in a Web page" are checked, then from the index page, I hold down the control key while I click on a bunch of the links (could middle click instead, but I don't like the way that tends to make it scroll while I'm clicking), let them open in the tabs while I'm opening more, then go through the tabs, closing each as I'm done with it, until I end up back at the index page, right where I left off.
I would think this should be easily adapted to use for tabbing through the links instead.

Stregone: Alt+CursorLeft is alt+left arrow. He's complaining about its particular behaviour when going back, not how to go back.

FrankFSmokey
18-February-2004, 03:52 AM
does that even matter? as long as you can c the site, im ok with it. (I use IE { =D> } though)

Kebsis
18-February-2004, 03:56 AM
What's tabbing?

JohnOwens
18-February-2004, 04:03 AM
What's tabbing?

Depends on the context. The way I last used it as a participle, "tabbing", was just referring to hitting the TAB key to switch amongst the links on a page. Just about every other mention of tabs on this thread, especially ones like "Tabbed browsing rules!", refers to the Mozilla et al. way of opening multiple pages in one window, with a separate tab for each. Probably easier shown than explained (and even easier to demonstrate, but...), let's see.... Decent screenshot here (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/tour/).

Captain Kidd
18-February-2004, 12:04 PM
Somebody could probably describe it better but I was first. :)

In IE if you want to to have multiple sites open at once you have to have multiple windows (programs) open. Browers with tabs do it all in one window with, well, tabs at the top so you can switch between them without having to bring up the taskbar (mine's on autohide) and switch windows. Plus with Mozilla, if a page is slow loading, it has the in-progress icon showing so I can be on another site and know exactly when that page has finished loading versus having to flip between windows constantly to see if it's loaded up yet.

If you have/know Windows, it's like Excel with spreadsheet tabs, but instead of at the bottom of the sheet, they're at the top.

[edit: OK second. :P]

ToSeek
18-February-2004, 04:17 PM
I use Safari at home on my Mac and Netscape here at the office.

zebo-the-fat
18-February-2004, 06:49 PM
Anybody else use Avant?
http://www.avantbrowser.com/