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Old 25-October-2007, 02:14 AM
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Damn, it's as bright or brighter than Alpha Persei.
I was mistaken. It's not as bright as Alpha Persei but it is as bright as Delta Persei.
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Old 25-October-2007, 02:15 AM
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Sky and Telescope now has an online article on the comet:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/obser.../10775326.html

They show a diagram of Perseus giving the location of the comet, using H. A. Reye's rendition of Perseus. In this version, it appears Perseus is throwing the comet at Andromeda.
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Old 25-October-2007, 02:18 AM
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Sky and Telescope now has an online article on the comet:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/obser.../10775326.html

They show a diagram of Perseus giving the location of the comet, using H. A. Reye's rendition of Perseus. In this version, it appears Perseus is throwing the comet at Andromeda.
Yep. Just saw that article. Alpha Persei, Delta Persei and the comet make a backwards "L". This is just too cool for words.
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Old 25-October-2007, 02:20 AM
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Or the alternative explanation, that a bone dry rock is "somehow" now sublimating it's "volatiles" (that are of course hidden from observation!) at an unprecedented rate! Whats the coma and tail showing as the main constitutes?
Bone-dry rock? So you've been on it, then?

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How do the comet "experts" explain via the sublimating dirtysnowball model such an intense outburst from a comet moving AWAY from the Sun?
Because it takes time for the heat from the outer surface to soak into the inner layers? Because a heavier outer layer has ablated away and exposed a more volatile patch? Because the changes in temperature weakened an icy covering, causing it to give way from the pressure of a gas pocket?
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Old 25-October-2007, 02:41 AM
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When will there be large mirror telescope pics?
Good question. Gotta believe that the large observatories are scrambling right now.
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So you've been on it? tricky stuff this magic ice.
The place for ATM claims is in the ATM section. Read the rules, and follow them.
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Masters, your posting style looks vaguely familiar.
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Here are some raw photos in color and mono, I have not processed these in Photoshop yet.










I am just learning to image, so the files are far from perfect.
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I am just learning to image, so the files are perfect, but I'm getting there.
Those are really nice just the way they are! Thanks for posting.
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Great pictures, EP!
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Thanks, I live in Phoenix, and we had a coast to coast ISS and Shuttle pass tonite, I was trying to setup to track, but I didn't have a dark enough sky to set my scope up and I missed tracking them (they were bright!)

So..., I turned to the comet, which I could not find in Binocs due to the moon.

I did have the RA and Dec, so I punched it into the computer and the scope found it dead center, first try.

This thing is odd, very yellow, very bright, like a doughnut.
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Old 25-October-2007, 03:56 AM
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Thanks, I live in Phoenix, and we had a coast to coast ISS and Shuttle pass tonite, I was trying to setup to track, but I didn't have a dark enough sky to set my scope up and I missed tracking them (they were bright!)

So..., I turned to the comet, which I could not find in Binocs due to the moon.

I did have the RA and Dec, so I punched it into the computer and the scope found it dead center, first try.

This thing is odd, very yellow, very bright, like a doughnut.
My wife and I saw the ISS/Shuttle flyover too.

With this comet, the next couple of days are going to be interesting.
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Well, that Masters fiasco just goes to prove that the ATMers will always be able to come up with more wacky ideas than I can imagine.
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Old 25-October-2007, 04:13 AM
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Just saw it with my C-8. At first I thought I had damaged my optics in a hurry to set up. Spectacular. Observing from SW Arkansas.
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Old 25-October-2007, 04:22 AM
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Just viewed it with 7x50 binocs. It does have a yellow hue and I can tell it's an extended object and not a star. But that's about all.

In 3-4 days that pesky ol' Moon won't be up in the early evening.
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Old 25-October-2007, 04:28 AM
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Well, that Masters fiasco just goes to prove that the ATMers will always be able to come up with more wacky ideas than I can imagine.
Yes. I don't have a big problem with their wacky ideas - it's the way that they present them. He could have introduced his ideas in a non-confrontational manner instead of the way he did it. He was just trying to harass someone - anyone.
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Old 25-October-2007, 04:32 AM
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He was just trying to harass someone - anyone.
And I bit the hook.
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Old 25-October-2007, 04:45 AM
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I was afraid he was going to ruin Keith's thread. Not to worry anymore . . .
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Old 25-October-2007, 05:32 AM
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This is just too cool for words.
Around three o'clock in the morning, it's almost straight overhead here, even more for those farther north. Too bad it's raining. O wait, it's stopped.

PS: So, there was a hole in the clouds as they scudded over, and I caught glimpses of what I'm sure were Algol, and then Mirfak. Then, it closed back up. So close...
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