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Old 02-June-2008, 05:51 PM
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I mentioned once, a long time ago, that I was collecting Coke Points for a telescope. A year later, I finally have enough and have gotten it today. It's not great, but since I didn't actually drink more Coke than I would have, not bad, right?

So what should I do for my first viewing, with the understanding that I live in Washington and it may take days for the skies to clear?
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Oh, so YOU'RE the reason why our weather's been so lousy lately!

What type of scope is it; and do you have experience with using a telescope in general?

For a first viewing , I'd recommend checking out the moon if you've never fiddled with a telescope before. It's a nice, big, bright target with lots to show you. Also, you don't need to go to a dark sky site to view the moon, you can do that from your back yard. This way you can learn about using your scope such that you'll be able to use it at a dark sky location without trouble when the time comes.
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If you're up late (after midnight) and have a clear view to the southeast, check out Jupiter and the Galilean moons. You can't miss Jupiter. It is by far the brightest thing in the sky right now and the moons put on a show in any size scope (they're visible in 7x35 binoculars).
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Saturn is very close to Regulus in the Southwest as it gets dark.
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Old 03-June-2008, 05:43 PM
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Saturn's pretty low in the SW after dark up here in the Pac NW, though it still can be observed.
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Old 03-June-2008, 06:23 PM
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It's a Celestron Powerseeker AZ 50, if that tells anyone anything. (Again, in my head, it's "my free telescope.") It rained today; it's supposed to be cloudy all week. My apartment complex is relatively dark, so I'm far more worried about clouds!
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Ah, Celestron's superlow end. It'll do OK, epsecially for a free telescope. The mount is probably the weakest point of the powerseeker line.
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... It rained today;...
Of course it did! You just got a new telescope!

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WOW your first scope....and your a senior member, cheers and welcome to the club of scope owners. Be careful - If your too successful at looking at Saturn, Jupiter etc - you could catch yourself a bad case of aperture fever.
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It rained today
Expect that for about a month - there's no way to end a drought quite like buying a new telescope...


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Expect that for about a month - there's no way to end a drought quite like buying a new telescope...


This is the PAC NW we're talking about, it'll be more like 2 months
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I'm hoping for a clear night on 20 June; friends are getting married in the middle of nowhere the next day, and we're hoping for the chance to have a star party the night before.
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Yes, rain all week, interspersed with showers, and occasional sprinkles.

Like the fabled Esquimaux and snow, people of the PNW have over sixty different expressions for meteoric water. Almost 1/3 of them are printable.
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Here's a good site for determining when the moon will rise and what phase it's in: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.php

Looks like full moon is on June 18. A full or close to full moon isn't ideal for observing, as its brightness and orientation to the sun makes seeing much detail a bit difficult. Best time for observing the moon is when it's 1/4 to 1/2 full or thereabouts. Regardless of phase, observing other targets when there's a moon out is problematic as well, as its brightness washes out most other astronomical targets.

All is not lost however, you should still be able to get a good view of Jupiter that night, its bright enough that even a full moon won't affect it too much. You may also be able to make out some of the brighter open and globular clusters.
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I just checked the Celestron website. The 4mm eyepiece (#3) is useless with a 50mm scope. The 150x power is too much. Anything over 50x per inch just makes bigger blobs! Same goes for the 12mm EP with the 3x barlow. Again, 150x is just too much.
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Please forgive me if this sounds a bit know it all like. But I'd thought i'd mention this as I see it happen alot with new users. Your telescope may need to use its diagonal to get the correct focal lenth for your eyepieces, otherwise you may find yourself winding the focaser all the way out and still not getting those stars as pin points instead of cotton balls.

Yeah OK i'll admit it....I did this with my first refractor, but that was years ago OK.
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Old 04-June-2008, 03:50 PM
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Believe me. It is not hard to know more about telescopes than I. It's why I posted here in the first place. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Well, if the mount seems shakey, try hanging some weights from the connection to give it bit more stability. You might consider getting at least one decent eyepiece, the ones that come with it are doubtless junky. Maybe get a reflex finder like a EZ Finder II in place of the 5x finder scope. Get some binoculars to go with the scope.

Those are the options that cost money.

Go through the software that came with the telescope and *use it*. You can get some decent printouts of the night sky.

Pick your viewing nights carefully.

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The scope you got is a low end Celestron. It is not a scope that would ever be recommended, but still a good deal since you got it free! It, however, is probably the worst telescope sold by Celestron. It has a horrid mount, and a cheap focuser that only accepts 965'' eyepieces. A big issue is its 50mm aperture, which won't show you more than 10x50 binoculars. But, if you mod it, it could be a nice little scope.

First of all, trash the mount. It will likely turn you off astronomy. It's so wobbily that it would make a good earthquake detector. The head is completely plastic and the legs are paper-thin aluminum. Get a plain photo tripod, even a marginal one is likely to be much better.

Second, get better eyepiece. Nobody makes good .965'' eyepieces anymore, but I did find this at Telescope Warehouse. It should give you a pleasing low-magnification view.

Better yet, get a .965 to 1.25'' hybrid diagonal and pick up a few 1.25'' Kellners or Plossls.

Finally, download Stellarium. It will be an excellent beginning resource. You may also pickup a few star charts or a planisphere.

Hope you have fun with your new scope!
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I can't afford to modify anything right now, or any time soon. However, it is clear out, so I'll be taking the 'scope out for its trial spin tonight.
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Do you have a photo tripod to mount it on, though? If not, you should try fixing a water bottle beneath the legs of the mount, or at least something to give it more mass. Don't get too frustrated with it if it doesn't work well.

I recommend you stick with the lowest power eyepiece, the 20mm. A Huygens or Symmetrical Ramsden is forgivable at low focal lengths.

Some objects out right now that I recently viewed at 12x through a tiny 62mm Cometron, decent targets for your scope:

M13 in Hercules should be decent.
So should M81 and M82.
I think the Whirlpool and M101 wouldn't be visible in any small scope because of the Moon's illumination.
The Moon right now is obviously a good target.
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