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Note - the following is the result of me sitting down and doing some back-of-the-envelope calculations. I may be off on some of my figures or math. If you have any corrections or comments, please post them.
Helium-3 mined from the moon has gotten some attention lately as a fuel source for future fusion reactors. It would take as little as 25 tons of He3 to satify the annual current energy needs of the united states - a quantity which could be carried in a single shuttle mission. We don't yet have reactors which can burn He3, or a shuttle-sized vehicle capable of bringing such a load back from the moon, but these are things we should be able to develop in the future. So it sounds like a good idea, right? I decided to run some order-of-magnitude calculations to look at the economic feasability of the project. The results suprised me. In order to understand the economic rational for mining He3, we have to look at what makes it a desireable fusion fuel. For economic feasability we have to look not just at He3 but compare it to alternative power sources. Deteurium-Tritium fusion is the easiest form of fusion we are likely to use as a power source. It occurs at a temperature lower than any other fusion, releases a lot of energy per reaction, and we will never run out of fuel for it. The downside is that much of the reaction energy is released in the form of fast neutrons. Converting fast neutrons into electricity is inefficient, and the reactor walls will suffer neutron embrittlement and need periodic replacement, generating a steady stream of highly radioactive waste. He3 fusionis more difficult to achieve, taking about twice the temperature, and releasing less energy per reaction. On the plus side the reaction is nearly aneutronic (the He3-D reaction releases no neutrons, but some D-D reactions will also occur, releasing some fairly low-energy neutrons) and the energy released can be converted into electricity at higher efficiency. So, the question is, is extracting He3 from the moon cheaper and easier than dealing with the radioactive waste products from the D-T reactors? He3 is present in the lunar soil at a concentration of about 1 part in 200 million. Extracting 25 tons of He3 means that your lunar extraction plant will need to process a whopping 5 billion tons of lunar material annualy. To extract He3 from lunar ore, we need to scoop up the material, sift and/or crush it to break up the clumps and rocks, bake it in an airtight oven for a while, seperate out the He3 from the other gases released, and then dump the spent lunar ore somewhere it won't get in the way of your continuing operation. To estimate the cost of building and running the extraction plant, I looked at existing stripmining equipment used on Earth. Lunar equipment will operate on similar principles, although of course many of the engineering details will differ. Lunar equipment operates in 1/6 earth's gravity, so the structure can be lighter. On the other hand, lunar mining equipment will have to be self-powered. For the purposed of this essay I'm assuming that all of the mining equipment is solar powered. The other option is nuclear power - but manufacturing so many nuclear power plants will generate more radioactive waste than we save by using He3 fusion, so that option is a non-starter. Being solar powered means the equipment can only operate during the lunar day. For simplicity I assume that we can get 4000 hours of operation out of our lunar equipment per year. I'll also ignore breakdowns and downtime for maintinence. Lunar equipment will also need to deal with severe monthly temperature swings. Heavy mining equipment will need liquid-cooled radiator loops to keep from overheating during the lunar day, and will need to be kept from freezing during the lunar night. The lunar equipment in this example will also need to be able to operate for years, autonomously or remote controlled at best, with little to no maintinence. For the first step, gathering the ore, I looked at bucket-wheel excavators used in strip-mines. A good bucket-wheel excavator can dig up about 8 times its own weight in ore an hour. For this thought experiment I'll assume our self-powered, self-contained lunar soil excavator can scoop up 10 times its own mass per hour. Secondly, the ore needs to be transported from the excavator to the processing plant. Modern mine trucks can carry nearly twice their own weight in ore. Lunar mine trucks should be able to beat this. I will assume that our transport system can carry 20 times its own mass of ore from the excavator to the plant per hour. Then the ore needs to be sifted and/or crushed. Fine powder is going to more readily heat up and release He3 - putting rocks and bolders into our ovens is a waste of time. Earthly crushing plants can handle anywhere from 2 to 8 times their own weight of rock per hour. I'll assume our lunar processer can crush and/or sift 10 times its own mass per hour. The ovens to heat the ore will probably use large mirrors to concentrate sunlight on the material. The oven chamber itself needs to be airtight, to keep the scant quantities of He3 from escaping. The low-pressure gases given off from the ore need to be pumped out into a seperation system to extract the trace He3 from the other gases released. Some of the other gases may also be useful for local use, such as oxygen for a manned lunar settlement. I don't have much to go on to estimate the mass of the solar oven. 10 times its own mass of ore per hour seems like a reasonable quantity. Finally the spent ore needs to be carted off and dumped somewhere. Again, assume lunar ore trucks can transport 20 times their own mass per hour. On top of the ore-handling equipment, you'll probably need centralized control and communication systems, mapping gear and location beacons, a storage yard for spare parts and repair vehicles to put them into effect, and finally a system to transport the refined He3 back to Earth. Looking at our target numbers of 25 tons of helium per year, and 4000 hours of working daylight per year, we see that our lunar He3 plant needs to process 1,250,000 tons of lunar ore per hour. Adding up the masses of the required equipment above, we can see that setting up a lunar processing plant to provide our yearly needs of He3 will mean sending over half a million tons of equipment and supplies to the moon. That's rather a lot. Using a rough figure of 40 million per ton of payload delivered to the moon, it will cost over 20 trillion dollars just to send the He3 collection system there. That's not counting the costs to build the hardware, or to support and supply it once in operation. I submit that we can deal with the nuclear waste generated by D-T fusion plants for much, much less than 20 trillion dollars. There are probable more efficient ways to do the He3 extration than the method I outlined above. But even if you can find a way to do it at ten times the mass efficiency, that's still 2 trillion dollars to get it there. Now, it may be that we'll someday develop a way to put things onto the moon for a fraction of today's prices. Or perhaps we will have a large lunar base, with a massive mining operation to produce oxygen and metal alloys for local operations, and the He3 will be a welcome by-product. My point is that if my assumptions and math are correct, with today's technology the cost of building the industrial infrastructure required will make the project economically unfeasable. And by the time we can afford to build this kind of system, we may have better options for energy. Hydrogen-Boron fusion looks to be very hard to achieve, but is also clean and uses fuel that we have here on earth in effectively unlimited quantities. |
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I am really anti-all-this-lunar-mining-thing [-X. We should preserve the moon, it's an amazing piece of natural art. A few footsteps, a flag and a monument is more than enough
. It should be a natural reserve park.
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This mindset I just can't agree with. We'd still be hiding in caves if our ancestors had thought this way. I have no objection to mass mining of the moon in principle. It's just that there's really not much there worth bringing back. He3 mining would become economically attractive if we could bring the cost of transporting cargo to the moon down by a factor of 1000 - assuming we also had working commercial He3 fusion reactors to burn it in. The raw minerals available on the surface of the moon are all things we have plenty of here on Earth - aluminum, titanium, magnesium, silicon, and other light elements. They'll be useful to lunar colonists some day, but unlikely to be profitable to send back here. |
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If you really want to look at off-world metal mining, the asteroids are a much better bet. There are some nickle-iron asteroids which are nearly pure metal ore, and unlike the moon they have useful amounts of rare metals like platinum and iridium. |
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That was a very interesting, TinFoilHat. One thing people don't seem to realize is if someone does come up with a He3 reactor it would be far, far easier to use earth helium than moon helium. The concentration of He3 in lunar helium is only 10 times greater than in earth helium and is much more than 10 times more difficult to obtain. On earth helium can be obtained where it is trapped in natural gas deposits. Some natural gas deposits are up to 7% helium so there is no great shortage of it yet. If we wanted to could extract He3 from commercial helium today that goes into party balloons and scuba tanks and just hang onto it on the off chance He3 reactors become practical.
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If the H-B reaction turns out to be the best, so be it. I will find another reason to go to the Moon, asteroids, planets. Uranus as a mining site, sure any excuse to go, or Titan for ethane/methane, Mars for iron. All these bodies are ours, we should use them wisely. |
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Turn industry loose where there's simply no real damage to do other than to themselves.
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Thank. You. Like Van Rijn, I never bought into the fantasy that He-3 is a valid reason to go back to the Moon, not when controlled, economical fusion *period* is looking more and more like a pipe dream.
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The Moon is highly visible everywhere in the world and has great cultural significance. Uncontrolled lunar development will impact on other potential lunar activities - such as astronomy. Space advocates dismissing people with environmental concerns as yuppies, wounded bleeding hearts, and other epithets is utterly unhelpful. It is reminiscent of the worst rape and pillage mentality of the 19th century of of for former Soviet Union. You want to win people over, not drive therm away. Furthermore it is utterly unrealistic to expect there to be no controls over lunar development. There will be. There will be a need to reserve common resources (vacuum, solar power), not impinge on other users (astromers for example), and preserve natural beauty. Jon |
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However, lets be realistic. I am NOT talking about strip mining the surface here. That's not even practically possible to the extent that vast swaths of Lunar surface will be defaced, simply because its A) beyond the scope of modern technology even if we threw 100% effort into it, and B) not likely netting them anything useful anyway. What I am talking about is if they do find something useful, turn them loose to get it. There's no water table to pollute, there's no atmosphere to choke, nor is there any native life to kill off. At worst, you end up with some localized devastation of the scenery, but you're talking about an astronomical body with several times the surface area of Eurasia. Most of what human technology is capable of doing won't be evident from anything other than a dedicated Moonsat like Clementine for decades or centuries at best. If its largely underground, we may never see it. So spare me, poets, you're precious man on the moon has a long life ahead of him, even if we do industrialize it. If your panties are going to bunch up that much, there's the other 45% of the Moon you never get to see because of tidal locking, so we can always go crazy on the farside. Heck, that might be worth doing, since it'll change the face of the New Moon phase as seen from Earth forever. To be able to look up at an otherwise dark patch in the sky, see a string of lights, and know we're out there, and out there to stay.
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ALso note that from a mining perspective, working underground is to be avoided, if possible. It is more complex, more expensive, and riskier. Also on the Moon its unlikely. The main resources are best extracted in the regolith - solar atoms, ilmenite, nickel-iron, oxygen, ices Quote:
IMHO of course. But I did spent over a decade in the mining industry, and allowing for multiple land use, stake holder consultation, rehabilitation, sustainability, and the triple bottom line have been part of mining in my country for several decades. Quote:
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What do you mean by "large scale surface mobilization of dust?"
With no atmosphere, it is impossible for the dust to do anything other than follow a ballistic trajectory, and it would therefore be impossible to create any significant dust above the lunar surface... |
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It wouldn't take too much activity to give the moon a feeble atmosphere that could suspend dust. I don't know how much of an atmosphere you'd need, but it probably wouldn't be a great deal. After all, mars manages to do a lot with very little. It is possible that enough atmosphere to hold dust could result from frequent rocket use and industrial activity.
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Other space environmental issues on the Moon that will need management will include light and RF pollution. You don't want spacecraft doing approaches over observatories, and the lunar farside is the quietest place in the solar system for radio astronomy. You don't want to waste that asset. Plus you don't want conflicting use of frequencies, or dangerous interference. Even on Earth, certain frequencies and use of electronic equipment are banned on mine sites beause of the risk of accidently setting off explosions. Jon |
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Don't people understand that a modest foothold on the Moon makes it possible to eventually move all your industrialization to some far away asteroid or something?? You have to get the foothold first though. If these people could actually stop us from industrializing the moon, then we never get that foothold, and we are ALL worse off in the long run. This just seems like crazy talk to me. You could put every factory on Earth inside Copernicus crater and have room to spare. Are there really people who would object to that (if it were within our means)? Are there really people who would rather have a factory on Earth belching out pollution, so long as they can't see it?? In spite of the pollution caused by the industrial revolution, we are all better off because of it. We now have the wealth to talk about conservation. Imagine if such short-sighted people had been around in 1830 saying "whoa whoa! Not so fast! You can't build that factory until we work out ALL the possible consequences!" If that had happened in 1830 then you and I would be living on farms today, cutting down trees MORE than we do today to build our homes and heat our homes, we'd been poorly educated, there'd be no Internet, we'd all have at least 10 kids to help with chores. The world would be a terrible place! Can't you see that? |
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Or do you really think that human activities should be carried out on the Moon without the slightest consideration to long term consequences? That waste gases should be vented regardless of the impact on astronomical installations and industrial facilities that rely on hard vaccum? That no consideration should be given to how dust mobilisation from landing and launch activities or mining might impinge on other uses of the Moon? That radio frequencies should be crowded with noise and chatter irrespective of the potential of the lunar farside to be the best place in the solar system for radioastronomy, or the hazards that uncontrolled RF uses can pose? Do you think there will be no controls on the use of lasers or plasma or ion beams? Jon |
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Any waste gases from lunar industry could probably be collected for use in other processes. A waste product is just a resource we haven't found a use for yet.
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Other issues: we are not running out of any metallic mineral commodity, despite unprecendented consumption. We don't know how to mine in zero gravity, this includes the entire processes from excavation through milling, smelting, and disposal of waste. We don't have the technology to economically explore asteroids, let alone economically move thousands of tonnes of material round in space, both setting up the plant on the asteroid and then shipping it back to Earth. We have got to crawl before we can take bady steps. As far as space mining is concerned, crawling will include being able to excavate useful amounts of lunar and martian regolith for construction purposes. Then we can move on to volatile extraction and then the harder things - lunar oxygen, production of iron and tiantium and aluminium. By then we may be in a position to start thinking about mining the asteroids. Even there, the most vaulable resource is not metals, but volatiles. Volatile extraction on Phobos and Deimos will be hpow we learn to work on asteroids. None of this is for the terrestrial economy, all is to increase the efficiency and reduce the cost of space operations. Mining asteroids for metals and exporting them to earth is economic fantasy for a long time to come. Jon |
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