On CoastToCoastAM, they were talking about Hoagland being NASA Administrator.... ACK

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Now that's scary!

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He'd cancel everything except missions to Cydonia and Europa.

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He has some mental issues. I'm surprised he would even consider this. He constantly thinks NASA is involved in some big coverup on Mars as well as other things. Now all of a sudden he wants to be a part of this vast conspiracy? Sounds hypocritical to me.

Hoagland is a hoax merchant, this sort of thing is right up his ally. Anything to get more media coverage and web sales for his merchandise. Truth doesn't come into it - it's only $$$.

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Wiping coffee off my monitor screen......

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Now, now... remember your good science. Don't dismiss the odd sounding idea offhand.

Actually, I'd support it. Then it would be put up or shut up time for Hoagie.

And he *is* very gung ho about space and its exploration, so would he really be worse than another pencil pusher?

He is also a good salesman, another thing NASA needs.

*coughs up bite of Slim Jim*

Houston, we have a problem...

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Wait a minute, this could actually work! RCH could raise all sorts of money for NASA with his books and videos...er, I forgot, NASA deals with scientific reality. Oh well, it was a good idea while it lasted! :wink:

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Okay, I've thought about it.... Nope. Still don't like it.

I think there are better ways to get him to put up or shut up without risking the space program....

Yes, but his understanding of how science and engineering work, well, stinks quite frankly. I have seen Star Trek prop designers with better approach to physics than him.

Salesman is one thing, but not the only thing. You might as well hire on Kent Hovind to head the EPA while you're at it.... ](*,)

edited to add smileys - didn't mean it to sound that harsh, Galaxy :wink:

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At least you hit the monitor. I usually have to clean my keyboard! :roll:

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I don't think you can afford to have someone who is antagonistic toward an organization in charge of that organization. Remember when Bill Clinton would made that airforce LTC his golf caddy? yikes!

Oh the other hand, if I was the NASA administrator I would at least consider sitting down with hoagland in an open forum and asking, "what can we do with the budget we have, and without sacrificing the science we want to do on Mars that will answer your and other people's questions?"

In other words, if hoagie would be satisfied with a lander near cydonia, and if we could do good science there that we were going to do anyway but in another spot, then we should adjust our plans. See, on the one hand, if NASA goes out of its way to answer the woowoos, they reject it outright as fraud or move the goal post and demand more evidence. But if you involve a woowoo up front, then maybe it would be harder to do that. But actually, I know what would happen. The other woowoos would disown hoagie, saying he had sold out to NASA. Actually it might be worth doing it just for that reason alone. hehe.

Well, as long as you are going to do this, why not make it really interesting? Say, a triumvirate of Hoagland, Nancy Lieder, and Bart Sibrel?

Then you would certainly see some changes at NASA!

Yeah! Like changing the name to Nothing About Sane Astronomy

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Ahhh! My eyes! It burns.

What's that strange blob on Mars? It looks almost human! I'm a believer now! :^o

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Grrrrrrrrr.

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Actually, on closer examination I realized the angle of light was tricking me into thinking a big pile of rocks represented something with actual scientific merit. :wink:

And, the NASA I want for Xmas??? Awww, I wanted a Nazi flying saucer base in Antarctica play set!

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Is it just me....or is Mars interesting enough without having to create sensational stories? I hope we can keep people in charge who recognize the real mysteries we face. These are infinitely more interesting to me than anything Hoagland can dream up.

From the Coast to Coast AM Hoagland segment just after that Bad Astronomer dude was on:

Vote Richard C Hoagland for NASA Administrator

Edit: I just noticed some bad astronomy there. It looks like the Sun is right on the limb of Mars, yet most of the portion of Mars toward the observer is illuminated. Curious.

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To phrase as kindly as possible -- what I find to be the least aesthetic element is seeing the image of Hoagland's likeness in such close proximity to HST. Well, that and the fact that anyone would even consider the idea having any merit whatsoever.

*cringe*

Well theres that... an' the Hubble being so close and some sort of nebula between mars and the sun.......

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