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Or here about spectra and spectral classes.
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Pre Main Sequence
Proto Stars (Thermal Output) T-Tauri Stars (Gravitational/Thermal Output) Brown Dwarfs (Thermal Output) Red Dwarfs (Thermal/Nuclear Output, Deterium Fusion only) Main Sequence Blue Dwarfs (Nuclear Output, Hydrogen Burning) Yellow Dwarfs (Nuclear Output, Hydrogen Burning) Yellow Sub-Giants (Nuclear Output, Hydrogen Burning) Blue Sub-Giants (Nuclear Output, Hydrogen Burning) Post Main Sequence Red Giants (Nuclear Output, Helium Burning) [i]Blue Giants (Nuclear Output, Carbon Burning) Wolf-Rayet (Nuclear Output, Carbon Burning?, High Mass Loss) Yellow Giants (Nuclear Output, Oxygen Burning) Blue Supergiants (Nuclear Output, H, He, and Carbon Burning) Yellow Supergiants (Nuclear Output, H, He, C, and Oxygen Burning) Red Supergiants (Nuclear Output, H, He, C, O, Sulfer and Silicon Burning) Hypergiants (Colors as supergiants, mass of star is at theroretical maximum limit and is on last stages of evolution. Only 7 known Hypergiants in milkway, these stars so massive they may have spent as little as 10000 years in main sequence (hydrogen burning) stage) Dead Stars White Dwarfs (Thermal Output) Black Dwarfs (No Output) Nutron/Pulsars (Gravitational Output) Magnatars(Gravitational/EM Output) Black Holes Supermassive BH/AGN/Quasars (No Visiable Output, expect when in Outburst stages) White Holes (Theroretical, Disproven) Quark Stars (Theroretical)
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Red (spectral class M), orange (K), yellow (G), yellow-white (F), white (A), blue-white (B), blue (O) dwarfs (V), subgiants (luminosity class IV), giants (III), bright giants (II), lesser supergiants (Ib), bright supergiants (Ia), hypergiants (0)... Also there are carbon stars (C, S, N) and Wolf-Rayet stars (W). There are also number of unusual stars like peculiar A stars or shell stars. Quote:
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How big is a blue super giant? They sound like a neat star to create a hard SF world around. I'm into that sort of thing.
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They'd be fried if they were like most of the life on Earth. They'd need to be able to paste their DNA(or their version of genetic material) back together like some bacteria can. The planet would probably have to be about as far from the star as Saturn is wouldn't it to keep from cooking? Unless the life also can live at 500+C. Wow!
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Well what's a yellow supergiant like and if they do exist what would a yellow hypergiant be like? That could get interesting, a Sol sized yellow- white could orbit the super or hypergiant from a very far distance and this smaller star could have a system of planets around it? Trippy hard SF.
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You are not going to have life evolving on a planet orbiting a giant, supergiant or hypergiant star (of any color). They (the stars) just don't live long enough (tens to hundreds of millions of years) for life to evolve. In fact, an Earth sized planet would barely have time to solidify befor the star went blooey (technical term :wink: ).
If you are going to use one in a Sci-Fi story, you'll be better off having observers/explorers arriving from outside.
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Blue Stragglers -- result of two main sequence stars merging
Is there a name for a still-fusing core of a red giant, stripped bare by a companion star? I know such exist.
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I know only one yellow hypergiant, and it is called Rho Cassiopeiae. |
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In reality there are following types of planets: In the Solar System: Terrestrial planets (rocky, thin atmosphere, few or no moons): Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars Jovian (gas giant) planets (no solid surface, very thick atmosphere, many moons, rings): Jupiter and Saturn. Uranus and Neptune are often classified as ice giants since their composition and structure is different from Jupiter and Saturn. Pluto is sometimes classified as an ice dwarf. The reason why it is called a planet and not a Kuiper Belt object is historical. Extrasolar planets (this is more or less unofficial classification): Super-hot Jupiters: Jovian planets that orbit their parent stars in extremely short orbits (in less than 2 days). All of them have been found using the transit method. Example: OGLE-TR-56 b. Hot Jupiters (Pegasids): Jovian planets that orbit their parent stars in every few days. Example: First extrasolar planet around a sunlike star, 51 Pegasi b. Eccentric Jupiters: Jovian planets that orbit in very oval orbits. Currently the most common type of planets. Example: 70 Virginis b. Classic Jovians: Jovian planets that resemble the Jovian planets in the Solar System. Example: 47 Ursae Majoris b and c. Hot Neptunes or hot super-Earths: Neptune-mass planets that orbit in orbits similar to hot Jupiters. They may be rocky planets with relatively thin atmosphere. Example: Mu Arae d. Pulsar planets: these planets have mass similar to the terrestrial planets. First extrasolar planets that were discovered were pulsar planets orbiting the pulsar PSR 1257+10. There are three of them, mass ranging from lunar to 3 Earths. Likely a very rare class of planets. There are also so-called free-floating or rogue planets, planetary-mass bodies that don't orbit any star. It is not clear if they're real planets but sub-brown dwarfs instead. Probably bona fide planets that have escaped their systems exist, but they are very difficult to detect. Example: S Ori 70. Recently imaged brown dwarf planet 2M1207 b doesn't fit any of these categories. It likely formed different way than normal Jovian planets. Some hypothetical planet classes: Cthonian planets: hot Jupiters that have lost their atmosphere and are now massive molten balls of rock. Oceanic planets: warmed-up ice giants that have lost their atmosphere and are covered with global deep oceans. Trojan planets: planets that are located in binary star systems' trojan points. |
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Are there any stars whose maximum emission peaks in the X-ray portion of the EM spectrum? UV stars are common, but I haven't heard much about an X-ray star. Oh yeah, not including black holes, neutron stars/pulsars, and "special" stars.
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Thanks for all the info, I learned alot. How long do yellow giants(not super or hyper) last? How do they compare with Sol as to what they'd do to an orbiting planet? Kind of stinks that there are no green stars at least that we can see, well that's our eyes for us.
As an aside note: Is this the same reason why green fire doesn't work unless copper is being burned in there to? Why can't the heat be just right that only green light is given off when methane or other flamable gases are burned?
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Here is some new info on the percentage of stars of different types in the Galaxy. It's a little old, and apparently counts only main sequence stars--brown and white dwarfs are fairly numerous--and not giants or supergiants. It's from The Search for Life in the Universe, by Donald Goldsmith and Tobias Owen (New York: Addison-Wesley, 1992).
from page 398: Spectral Type / Percent of Total O / 0.00002 B / 0.09 A / 0.6 F / 2.9 G / 7.3 K / 15.0 M / 73.0 |
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You seem to be interested in yellow supergiant stars, SkepticJ;
There are three in the autumn sky; Enif, Sadalmelik and Sadalsuud. They are only going to be yellow and hospitable for a short while, and seem to be subject to flare-ups- but they could hold an artificial solar system for a short while. I've put colonies around Sadalmelik and Enif myself.
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Jupiter and Neptune are both gas giants, but they are very different animals from one another. By the same token, a 14 mass terrestrial planet is going to be a very different animal than Earth. Though Pluto is a solid planet, its unlike anything that formed in the inner solar system.
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As far as planets go, I'v been working on a classification scheme for some time:
http://j.dollan.home.bresnan.net/ARCpclindex.html A revision currently underway is here: http://j.dollan.home.bresnan.net/ARCPCLIndex4ed.html Pleae note that this is a fictional list. But in the revision, I am trying to make it as realistic as possible. ...John...
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And second, with only none examples you can not define a lot of "classes". As time goes by and detection techniques improve, we will find more planets completely unlike anything in the Solar system, as well as some "in-between". A planet with 8 Earth masses will not be just Earth writ large -- it will be something between Earth and Uranus in properties other than size.
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