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Old 16-January-2005, 09:27 AM
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A ship travelling at say 10% of c has a significant chance of hitting matter in space. What would the chance be of a collision, and how large would the force be?
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If there are no efforts taken to avoid it, the ship is certain to hit matter. It would look something like this, but much much worse.
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btw at what fraction of c would hydrogen atoms start to have an ionising effect on the crew of such a ship?
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A ship travelling at say 10% of c has a significant chance of hitting matter in space. What would the chance be of a collision, and how large would the force be?
The energy produced in the collision would depend on the mass of the particle hitting the ship.
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A ship travelling at say 10% of c has a significant chance of hitting matter in space...how large would the force be?
Formula for kinetic energy:

KE = 1/2mv^2, where

KE = kinetic energy (joules)
m = mass (kg)
v = velocity (m/s)

Assume 1 gram object hitting ship

KE = 450 giga Joules [edited prev. math error]

TNT is 2.7E6 Joules/kg

TNT equivalent = 183 tons

The bombload from five B-52s just landed on your windshield! Better call dent wizard fast!!
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Our page on shielding;
http://www.orionsarm.com/ships/shielding.html
impacts with dust grains are like bombs going off; impact with interstellar hydtrogen however, is like a constant drizzle of radiation.

and a images of few early interstellar colony ships with large ice shields (later replaced by more active shielding as speeds and technology improved)
http://www.orionsarm.com/ships/Dyaush_Colony_Ship.jpg
http://www.orionsarm.com/worlds/Dante_and_Lumiere.jpg
http://tinypic.com/y0as5
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A ship travelling at say 10% of c has a significant chance of hitting matter in space...how large would the force be?
Formula for kinetic energy:

KE = 1/2mv^2, where

KE = kinetic energy (joules)
m = mass (kg)
v = velocity (m/s)

Assume 1 gram object hitting ship

KE = 450 giga Joules [edited prev. math error]

TNT is 2.7E6 Joules/kg

TNT equivalent = 183 tons

The bombload from five B-52s just landed on your windshield! Better call dent wizard fast!!
This assumes that the relativistic effects are negligible. At .1c, is this a reasonable assumption?
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This assumes that the relativistic effects are negligible. At .1c, is this a reasonable assumption?
Depends on what you mean as "negligible". If you are talking about setting your atomic clock, then no.
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Old 18-January-2005, 05:19 PM
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This assumes that the relativistic effects are negligible. At .1c, is this a reasonable assumption?
For ballpark figures at 0.1c the relativstic correction isn't relevant . You'll still get the same answer to two sig figs in this case.
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