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Default Controlled fusion breakthrough (UCLA and an AP article)

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Pointing out that while it was a controlled fusion - more energy was still dumped into the process than what resulted.

But hey, you've got to start somewhere.

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Fusion experts noted that the UCLA experiment was credible because, unlike the 1989 work, it didn't violate basic principles of physics.
Anyway, well done UCLA!
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It sounds like the process won't scale up. Keep in mind that tabletop fusion already exists (using IEC - inertial electrostatic confinement), but nobody has found a way to scale up the system beyond making it a useful neutron source. It sounds like this scheme might make for a smaller neutron source than an IEC reactor.

But, you never know. I keep hoping somebody will find a "trick" that will sidestep some of the problems with fusion. It is unlikely, of course ...
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I've just put in my order to Amazon for a "Mr. Fusion" to put on the back of the DeLorean.


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It sounds like the process won't scale up. Keep in mind that tabletop fusion already exists (using IEC - inertial electrostatic confinement), but nobody has found a way to scale up the system beyond making it a useful neutron source. It sounds like this scheme might make for a smaller neutron source than an IEC reactor.

But, you never know. I keep hoping somebody will find a "trick" that will sidestep some of the problems with fusion. It is unlikely, of course ...
Thanks for the heads up, Van Rijn. I found this link about the fusor very interesting (top Google hit on IEC ). It points out that the IEC was able to achieve billion neutrons/sec, or even as high as a trillion. Compare it with the UCLA design, which currently achieves only 900/sec, proposed to be able to scale up to a million with D-T and appropriate geometric designs. It was also interesting to note the similarity of a potential well between the IEC design(electric potential well) and sonoluminescence which prof. Putterman has been involved with (pressure potential well). The question then is: why such the hoopla about the UCLA design, when it seems inferior in output to the IEC designs (which came to within two orders of magnitude of break-even, if understood correctly).
I don't mean to belittle the achievements of the UCLA group, I'd just like to know more from experts about their achievement.
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