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Old 15-June-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default West Coast Tsunami? --- Canceled. Come down out of that tree

Edit: Don't worry. Be happy. June 14, 9 PM West Coast Tsunami warning is canceled.
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Tsunami alert for the west coast. First I've ever seen. 7.5 earthquake off Eureka.

More after I go look.

CBS News 8 minutes ago:

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The U.S. Geological Service is reporting that a major earthquake has struck off the coast of northern California.

According to the USGS, the quake measured 7.0 on the Richter scale and was located about 90 miles west-southwest of Crescent City, Calif., and about 300 miles northwest of Sacramento.

There is no word yet on any injuries or property damage.

A tsunami warning is in effect from the California-Mexico border north to Vancouver Island, British Columbia.

CBS News Station KCBS reports residents of Crescent City are being evacuated from low-lying areas.

The quake in California hit at 7:50 p.m. local time
Nothing on the radio. I saw one of those annoying TV EAS Emergency Alert Service messages about it, but all I hear is regular news and sports and talk

Nothing on TV. Oh... MSNBC has a crawl. Evacuating residents in low lying areas near Crescent City.

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http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/wmsg

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THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT
ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.
Added:

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THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. THERE IS NO TSUNAMI WARNING
OR WATCH IN EFFECT.
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THE WEST COAST/ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER WILL ISSUE BULLETINS
FOR ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.
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http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/message.txt

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...A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS
FROM THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER TO THE NORTH TIP OF
VANCOUVER I.-BC. INCLUSIVE...

...A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS FROM
THE NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I.-BC. TO SITKA-AK...

...AT THIS TIME THIS BULLETIN IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY FOR
OTHER AREAS OF ALASKA...
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NO - REPEAT NO - TSUNAMI WATCH OR WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR
THE COASTAL AREAS FROM SITKA-AK. TO ATTU-AK.
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Old 15-June-2005, 05:12 AM
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And now:

http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/message.txt

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...THE TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH STATUS IS CANCELED FOR
CALIFORNIA - OREGON - WASHINGTON - BRITISH COLUMBIA - AND
ALASKA...
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A SMALL TSUNAMI WAS OBSERVED AT THE FOLLOWING SITES
WATER LEVELS REMAIN NORMAL AT ALL COASTAL SITES. NO WAVE
BEEN DETECTED.

EVALUATION
NO TSUNAMI DANGER EXISTS FOR ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA -
WASHINGTON - OREGON OR CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER SOME AREAS MAY
EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA LEVEL CHANGES. AS LOCAL CONDITIONS
CAN CAUSE A WIDE VARIATION IN TSUNAMI WAVE ACTION THE ALL
CLEAR DETERMINATIONS MUST BE MADE BY LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
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...THE TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH STATUS IS CANCELED FOR
CALIFORNIA - OREGON - WASHINGTON - BRITISH COLUMBIA - AND
ALASKA...

$$

THE PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER WILL ISSUE A FINAL BULLETIN.

THIS WILL BE THE LAST WEST COAST AND ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING
CENTER WATCH/WARNING BULLETIN ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT.
THIS INFORMATION IS ALSO POSTED AT WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV.
$$
Looks like a false alarm. Quick response, though.
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Old 15-June-2005, 05:16 AM
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Nevermind....
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Does this mean the earth's rotation is about to reverse?

Sorry, ducking for cover...
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Does this mean the earth's rotation is about to reverse?

Sorry, ducking for cover...
No, the tsunami won't cause the Earth's rotation to reverse.
The Earthquake will take care of it though.
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Oh, cancelled for Hawaii, as well:

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/hmsg

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THE WEST COAST - ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER HAS CANCELLED
THE REGIONAL TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH IT ISSUED FOR OTHER PARTS
OF THE PACIFIC. BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE DATA THERE IS NO
DESTRUCTIVE TSUNAMI THREAT TO HAWAII AND THE ADVISORY FOR HAWAII
IS ALSO ENDED.

HOWEVER...SOME COASTAL AREAS IN HAWAII COULD EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA
LEVEL CHANGES AND STRONG OR UNUSUAL CURRENTS LASTING UP TO
SEVERAL HOURS. THE ESTIMATED TIME SUCH EFFECTS MIGHT BEGIN IS

0929 PM HST 14 JUN 2005
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Old 15-June-2005, 11:20 AM
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Hmmm I wounder if it will go near us on the western rim....
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Old 15-June-2005, 11:23 AM
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Well, reading a news story (LA Times: Tsunami Warning Rattles West Coast), I see it was the first tsunami alert for California in about 20 years. No wonder it seemed novel.

It says emergency lines were swamped because people didn't know what they were supposed to do once they were alerted. The alert did seem a little weak in the advice department.

Seek higher ground. Yeah, I'm gonna drive a few miles so I can find hils to gain 200 feet of elevation. Maybe I should have climbed my palm tree. It's the highest thing I can get to easily. Really, Silicon Valley isn't very vulnerable to tsunamis, being separted from deep water by a long stretch of shallow bay or the protective Santa Cruz mountains. So, personally I wasn't sweating it. Just keeping an eye on things.

I guess it was good practice. Maybe next time they'll tell us what to do.

What's with the EAS Emergency Alert System? 999 times out of 1000 it's an Amber Alert for a missing kid -- and those are seldom stranger abductions -- not usually the most noteworthy event to the general public (but, yes, I know, they are to those involved). Then, once they've dulled you to that sort of alert, along comes a natural-disaster warning that might save thousands of lives and they use the same darn alert tone to try to grab your attention. I wish they'd change that -- maybe just lower the tone for lower priority alerts.

Gee, while I was typing, with TV on, they just tested the EAS system. Good timing. That BRAAAAP sure got my attention this time. This is only a test...

Finally, I invite the proprietor to move this topic to a more appropriate forum. Sorry for the abuse. It was an emergency!
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Hmmm I wounder if it will go near us on the western rim....
Oh, it was a strike-slip, with sideways motion, not a thrust that raises water, so it shouldn't be a problem for you other-siders.

They issued the alert here, somewhat automatically because the quake at sea was 7.0 or more and then, when no water rise was noted anywhere, they fairly qucikly canceled the alert for North America and then Hawaii. If Hawaii's safe from this, you must be.
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Actually it appears to be volcanic in origin. It occured on the San Juan Plate which is known to have Seamount Volcanoes and the quake itself lasted over 1.5 minutes and was followed by a series of harmonic tremors for almost 2 full hours. This is more in line with volcanic activity then plate movement.

Note the Blue quake about 2.5 hours after event event isn't an aftershock, it's that one occured in the Sister Uplift area, around a magnitude of .9

http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/BB/WI...005061500.html

Also there was no P or S wave precursor, another indication of volcanic quake as opposed to plate slipage.

My guess is a Seamount Volcanoe erupted.
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OK. This is off-topic. We need Babbling.
I hope folks weren't relying on BABBling for important news and such.

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We can make this astronomy related if we try hard enough. I got a great view of the night sky from the palm tree that I climbed for safety.
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It occured on the San Juan Plate . . . .
I hadn't realized our little off-shore plate extended that far south.

the only channel I could get information from was our belovedly hokey NWCN--NorthWest (yes, I know, but it's how they spell it) Cable News. they rightly concluded that those of us in their broadcasting area would really, really care--though, since I live at the southern tip of the Puget Sound, I was pretty sure we're tsunami-safe. all those coastline curves. however, I was actually sent home to watch the news by friends who are in the middle of moving and don't have their cable hooked up yet after they received a phone call about the warning. (home being across the street.)

and wouldn't we post here if the earthquake were observed on, say, the moon? and that's still not astronomy but seismology.
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It occured on the San Juan Plate . . . .
I hadn't realized our little off-shore plate extended that far south.

the only channel I could get information from was our belovedly hokey NWCN--NorthWest (yes, I know, but it's how they spell it) Cable News. they rightly concluded that those of us in their broadcasting area would really, really care--though, since I live at the southern tip of the Puget Sound, I was pretty sure we're tsunami-safe. all those coastline curves. however, I was actually sent home to watch the news by friends who are in the middle of moving and don't have their cable hooked up yet after they received a phone call about the warning. (home being across the street.)

and wouldn't we post here if the earthquake were observed on, say, the moon? and that's still not astronomy but seismology.
Earthquake on the moon? That would be a first. :P
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Selenaquake wouldn't it be? And any study selenology?

I don't think we have to worry about this thread. Earth is a planet and studying planets is part of astronomy. We just get a closer look at this planet.
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Looks like it's been upgraded to a 7.2 quake.

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I hadn't realized our little off-shore plate extended that far south.
Jaun de Fuca Platehttp://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/P..._cascades.html

And Quake Locationhttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqinthenews/2005/usziae/
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Close one. I'm glad to see no large tsunami was generated.
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I hadn't realized our little off-shore plate extended that far south.
Both Shasta and Lassen Peak in California are Cascade volcanoes, related to the south end of the subduction zone off the coast.
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Another one just hit east of LA. (~2:00 PST)
5.4 is the early magnitude.
Sizable enough to shake my whole building here in Orange County.
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This is simply off-topic.
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