Orbit@Home is a new distributed computing program for refining asteroid orbits.

This description is from the Einstein@Home message board post about O@H:
This provides a project for those interested in a solar system distributed computing app; a good complement to Einstein@Home.

O@H is in a pre-alpha stage, as mentioned in the message board link; there is no actual application or Work Units available yet.

Even so, 250 or so folks have signed up in the 2 days it's been up, and they will close the alpha stage at 1000, so if you want in at this stage, act now.

Like E@H, O@H runs as a BOINC application, so Einstein@Home users will know how to attach to the project. Just go to the Orbit@Home site, which will look familiar as it is just the BOINC skeleton at the moment, and click Create Account .

If you are new to BOINC, a fuller description of what you need to do is here; starting with the second block of blue text. You just substitute the O@H URL for the E@H one when you attach.

Of course, the beauty of BOINC is you can run both E@H and O@H, or several other DC projects, from one interface; allocating time to each as you see fit.

As yet there is no BABB team for O@H; for that you would need a founder, approval from the BA for any name referencing "BABB," and perhaps permission as well to create a team-talk thread here in GA, which would be off-topic otherwise. It may or may not be a good time for this latter.

Happy cruching, whatever project you choose.

(ORSA is Orbit Reconstruction, Simulation and Analysis.)

Edited to point to correct BOINC/E@H intro;ops:, among other edits.

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Thank you, sounds IMO the most interesting distributed computing program so far!

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So many projects, so little CPU time! I may have to drop SETI@home in order to fit all the ones I want onto my machine

I was thinkin' the same thing about SETI. Poor seti...

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The obvious solution is to buy more machines.

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Isn't the whole idea of the BOINC Platform so you can have multiple (many) projects all sharing your CPU time?

Just edit your SETI@Home Preferences and lower the "Resource Share" number to devote less CPU time to that particular project.

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This looks very cool, thanks Ken. I'll probably split time between this and E@H once they get up and running (and I finish upgrading).

Yeah, this is one of the coolest features of boinc. I've already lowered the resource share on SETI@home to the point where it completes only 1 small (4 hours of full CPU use) project per week.

I currently run SETI@home, Climateprediction.net, and Einstein@home. If I add one more my poor old computer won't be able to finish any of the work units before the return deadline

EDIT: I do plan to get another computer, but not till the end of 06 or so. No money right now .

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Hi again, Wolverine,

If you want in at the alpha stage, you should register now -- once they reach 1000 members they will cut off. There is no need to actually attach to the project until they are running; but even attaching just gets the occasional error message that no app or work is available.

If you're thinking of waiting for the release stage to join, you should be fine, but recall that LHC@Home has been in an alpha stage for a long time, with no sign of going live.

I can't help thinking of 1000 members; 1000 asteroids to compute -- maybe we each get one with our name on it?

Lance,

gopher beat me to it, but individual project deadlines are pretty strict, particularly on slower computers. Once you get several projects running, it can be tough to meet all the deadlines and some folks find that the scheduler, which tries not to send you WUs you can't finish on time, is not as smart as it should be. No free lunch, so to speak.

So ultimately, the only solution is ToSeek's --- though I notice he didn't offer to pay for our new boxes. 8)

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The only reason I still run seti@home is because it's space related. This sounds much cooler so after six years, I think seti@home is coming off my machine. Unfortunately I'm not @home right now so I can't sign up.

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And this isn't space related? 8)

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Heh, indeed. I've been torn between rebuilding (&amp; keeping some existing components) and assembling a totally new ubermachine and networking the two. Tall aspirations, limited funds... if only I weren't into gaming and such it'd be cheaper. Something should hurry up and fizzle on my existing box to speed matters along. Silly reliable thing.

Went ahead and signed up for O@H anyway. Maybe they'll come up with some work soon.

Well dang, that was fast. I'm the user of the day.

For sure, Laser Jock, but Einstein@Home and orbit@home occupy different, well, spaces:

Just as there are planetary observers and deep space observers (and non-observant cosmology freaks like myself), so there are now DC apps for both solar system (O@H) and galactic (E@H) tastes. And if LHC@home ever goes live, one for astrophysicists. And of course SETI for little green people. 8) We can each run whatever app we choose. So there's room for everyone under the BOINC tent, YMMV, Can't we all get along?

LJ, I did see the smiley in your post, and I'm never completely serious myself, but if this thread should evolve into a heated discussion of which project is best, well, IMO, IBTL.

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Of course. I was just pointing out that there is a space-related project not named SETI. O@H sounds like a worthy project (whereas I think SETI is a waste of time), but I prefer to devote my resources completely to E@H right now since it holds the promise of uncovering new physics.

Congratulations. =D>

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Well, I never looked into einstein@home. I might now though. I didn't know anything about it. I'm already running the cancer cure thing and seti so I really only have room for one when I dump seti and I'm already signed up for orbit@home. Maybe I'll start running three apps sometime. Thanks for the info.

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My five minutes of fame evaporated quickly. As soon as someone else registered I got bumped. #-o

The have an interesting definition of what a "day" is.

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Perhaps it coincides with the rotational periods of smaller asteroids.

I just signed up, waiting for the thing to start downloading workunits now. (Need more &amp; bigger 'puters! )

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Can't wait this project to start (PlanetQuest).

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oooo that one looks cool too.

My sister's computer basically sits idle while it is on. Maybe I'll sign her up next time I am there. I tried doing it to my dad's computer with the old SETI@home, before BOINC came out, and he got all ticked off cause he said it slowed it down:P. How was I supposed to know he does a lot of 3-D drafting?

I signed up, so are we going to start a team?

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I've joined I reaken that ken should start the team as he knows how to answer all the questions etc...

I'm still happy to host information about the teams(how to join FAQ etc..) if somebody writes the information(I'm to busy atm).

I'd like to do a page anyway for my site but I would be cool if we could get people join the BABB teams.

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I'm in for the vote in Ken Vogt starting a new team.

I just got myself an account too. Ready to crunch.

This project appeals to more so than all the current and tabled BOINC project to date mainly cause it is so so much closer to home and seemingly more apparent.

When the project is finaly rolling I'll probably dedicate most of my computing resource (~90%) to orbit.

I hope they devlop some cool orbital graphics using Celestia or something radical like that

I just bumped you as user of the day. I guess the site assigns the latest person to sign up.

If Ken doesn't want to start a team, drop me a PM after I get my butt settled in Savannah, GA. That should occur either wednesday or thursday.

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I also vote Ken as the team founder, he has done a very good job on the einstein@home team. But I am also willing to do it if he does not want to do it.

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Edit: I didn't see azazul's and Tom's responses before posting below the dashed line. I'd be proud to be on a team with either as founder, so I've edited out my thanks-aw-shucks-I'll-do-it-if-you-insist reply. So you decide, perhaps considering, like I say, whether to wait and see if Klaus may be interested.[/edit]

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I do think it would be best to have 2 different founders, but since it's all BOINC, I can see the case for one as well.

Fortunately, there is no rush --- we have until crunching actually begins to create a team and still get every WU credited to it. So I'd like to defer my decision at least until Klaus gets back; since he's contributed so much to the E@H team. But if anyone else wants the "job," please go for it.

And I admit I'm a little unsure how the BA will feel about another team abusing his copyright; much less posting team news in General Astronomy while BABBling is closed. Another reason to wait for Klaus, as it was he who got permission for the E@H thread here.

Meanwhile, there would be the name; BABB is taken , so

BABB for orbit@home,
BABB for Orbit@Home,
BABB in orbit ?

Any other ideas?

But even this is strictly off the topic of the thread, not to mention not close to "just plain old astronomy." Maybe mickal would let us discuss team stuff for a while at his forum?

Anyhow, I'm tired now and I'm sure you will have it all sorted when I come back.

So go team(s)!

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I'd be thrilled- heck I'll even create a a new forea if you like

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This is great! Maybe just a catch-all section to begin with, I dunno, "BABB BOINC team talk" or some such.

"Discussion of the 'BABB' Einstein@Home team, the 'BABorBit' orbit@home team, or anything BOINCy."

A terrible description (and we may just not use your choice of a name 8)), but you get the idea.

Maybe there could be seperate sections for E@H and O@H later, if the O@H founder wants to participate, but having just one section has advantages: we could talk about things related to both projects in one thread. I'd start a thread about BOINCview, for example, and there could be one for swapping old hardware, etc. Since I think a lot of people will be reducing their E@H share to do O@H, some unofficial running tally of the combined total of all the teams would be good for morale.

But -- no way to break this gently, mickal -- the BA's board is always likely to be more popular than yours , and as long as the BA approves of a thread or two here, it would clearly be the best visibility for on-topic posts to be here.

Anyway folks, let us know what you think -- especially objections. Maybe we should wait 'til there actually is an O@H team to launch such a section?

But again, many thanks mickal for the offer of space.=D>=D>

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It's my feeling, hope maybe, that the WUs in O@H will be smaller than E@H and with a more relaxed deadline. I know this is the case with LHC@home. If so, that opens a lot more possibilities for older boxes.

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The latest from As of now there are 47 registered teams; the largest BOINCsynergy, with 45 members. BS uses its stats service as a recruiting tool, so no way to compete with such like. Sadly, The Final Front Ear has an O@H incarnation as well.

(I don't mean to pre-empt the leader with any of this; I just can't stop myself posting in this way. When there actually is a team, I'll put a sock in it a bit.)

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Finally, it's hard to adequately convey appreciation in this damn text medium, and I know I botched it late last nite, but I am very grateful for the kind words of support you folks posted here. Thanks.

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