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Lawrence Berkeley National Lab's Saul Perlmutter

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Brian Schmidt of Australia's Mount Stromlo and Siding Spring Observatories
No. The first announcement of acceleration was by another team.
I though Perlmutter's Supernova Cosmology Project was first, follwed shortly by Schmidt's High-Z SN Search group.
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No. The first announcement of acceleration was by another team.
I though Perlmutter's Supernova Cosmology Project was first, follwed shortly by Schmidt's High-Z SN Search group.
It was February 26th, 1998 (or the 27th). Alex Filippenko (CfA High Z team) spoke at the UCLA Dark Matter meeting. "Alex said clearly that our supernovae provided evidence that cosmic expansion had sped up during the last 5 billion years" said Robert Kirshner in his marvelous book - the Extravagant Universe.

This was before Saul Perlmutter's team news, though they had 40 supernova to CfA's 27 (14 of CfA plus 13 from Calan/Tololo).

The difference that gave the CfA team the edge, assuming I understand it, was their implentation of MLCS (multicolor light-curve shape). Using mulitiple color filters helped them deal with issues such as dust. Hence the reason I asked the colorful question in the first place. Sort of a pattern I seemed stuck on lately :-? .

This greatly reduced their scatter from 40% to 15% which is a great advantage in improving the Gaussian sigma value. As I understand, it improves it as a squared value (about 9 in this case).

Of course, they did many other things to help their program including swimming in the shallow end of the pool (using Kirshner's analogy for nearby supernova) instead of the deep end. Learning to pull out Type 1b SN, knowing the brighter Type Ia dim slower than the weaker Type Ia, etc. were certainly major factors, too. However, these did not involve color so I consider them secondary. :wink: [I feel obliged to enhance everyones appreciation for color in order to awakedn your interest in - The Quest for the Color of the Sun! ] [Not really, but I have enjoyed the mild frolic ]

CfA ~ Center for Astronomics at Harvard, IIRC.
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Just out of curiosity, what is the most distant star that can normally be seen with the naked eye? Hipparcos 5926 (V762) in Cassiopeia is 16,308 light-years away but is magnitude 5.84. That's the furthest I know of.
Aaaah, old times....

So, since they do not seem to have got any further than you did, that would be the solution, wouldn't it?
I've since found an even further one! According to Starry Night Pro it's almost exactly twice as distant as V762 Cas! (Yup, that's 32,616.3 light-years!) Its absolute magnitude is supposedly -10!
Hold it. So your answer was wrong... [-X . I am not the only one having trouble with this one apparently. There should be a simple catalog list of 6 to 7 mag. stars but I can't find one.

There should be a supernova reasonably soon in the Milky Way (or satellite cloud or dwarf being consumed). Can you hold your question till then?

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I must ask.....what color is it? :P
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I must ask.....what color is it? :P
Considering its distance is estimated at 10,000 parsecs (I thought 32,616.3 LY sounded familiar ), it is not surprisingly a blue-white supergiant. It has both Bayer and Flamsteed designations.

Whether it actually is that far away is another matter, however. I certainly don't trust Starry Night or Redshift 4 that much.
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Download the SQL version for Celestia which allows you to search any criteria in the Starbase (<--New word for the day).

Load up the 12+ million star catalogue of coarse.
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Hi folks -
it appears our quiz has gone a little stale over tha past two days, as nobody was able to anser Eroica's question about the most distant visible star. :-k

Maybe someone will come up with the answer one of these days, after installing and looking up the latest catalogues. I suggest in the meantime we move on. This quiz is too much fun to stop. 8)

What do you think about this one: Which body in the Solar system has the highest overall albedo?
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the sun

ok that doesn't make sence...

venus?
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What do you think about this one: Which body in the Solar system has the highest overall albedo?
Venus? Or is there a moon that's "brighter"?

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Brightest albedo: Guessing off the top of my head Venus
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I said it first- but I bet it turns out to be some obscure moon of neptunes...
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Old 09-July-2005, 02:40 PM
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Nope, nope, nope, and nope. 8).

Some sources name Venus, but there is at least one body whose albedo exceeds Venus's 0.79.
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well Enceladus would be my next guess- it seems quite flashy
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well Enceladus would be my next guess- it seems quite flashy
=D> =D> =D>

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Easy one clear! gtg and observe!

what does mimas resemble
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what does mimas resemble
Oh, but we had that! The death star!
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

opps

well YOu've got it anyway

btw I made a quick page on it

www.scotsons-shack.com/mimas.htm
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Nice page, mickal!

Fun to have the quiz going again. Another quick and easy: Which star is a binocular-resolved double whose components turn out (by moderate telescope) to be doubles again?

Well-known constellation, up in the night sky at this time of the year (in both hemispheres, I think.)
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Which star is a binocular-resolved double whose components turn out (by moderate telescope) to be doubles again?

Well-known constellation, up in the night sky at this time of the year (in both hemispheres, I think.)
Epsilon Lyrae, the Double-Double?

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I've since found an even further one! According to Starry Night Pro it's almost exactly twice as distant as V762 Cas! (Yup, that's 32,616.3 light-years!) Its absolute magnitude is supposedly -10!

Hint: it's in Orion.
ChiČ Orionis was the answer.
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