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gee how do you define dimmest....

microscopium is quite faint...
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gee how do you define dimmest....

microscopium is quite faint...
Yeah, it's a bit rough but the dimmest constellation is Mensa (nothing brighter than 5th magnitude I think).

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lol that's pretty funny

Mensa isn't very bright
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An easy one: What is the brightest star in virgo called?
Spica. The ear of the corn, I think. :P

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Arggh, Spica, really Demeter, earth goddess, could be corn or wheat. Daughter of Kronos, a Titan (see Greek-Saturn thread). But what's in a name? Would it still not be so bright? (kidding about name theft...sort of).

Mickal, that Mensa comment was funny.

You guys are too slow, :wink: it was Champion's turn, but I'm going to steal it and go to bed:

What white dwarf star has almost the mass of our Sun, but is only about four times as large as Earth? Packs a punch.
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An easy one: What is the brightest star in virgo called?
Spica. The ear of the corn, I think. :P

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Arggh, Spica, really Demeter, earth goddess, could be corn or wheat. Daughter of Kronos, a Titan (see Greek-Saturn thread). But what's in a name? Would it still not be so bright? (kidding about name theft...sort of).

Mickal, that Mensa comment was funny.

You guys are too slow, :wink: it was Champion's turn, but I'm going to steal it and go to bed:

What white dwarf star has almost the mass of our Sun, but is only about four times as large as Earth? Packs a punch.
Actually, I think it was Mickal's turn, but it doesn't matter. Can't say I know the answer to this one off the top of my head. :-?

Don't most white dwarfs share this characteristic?

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What white dwarf star has almost the mass of our Sun, but is only about four times as large as Earth? Packs a punch.
Are you sure about those numbers? That seems far too large. Sirius B has nearly the mass of the sun and is roughly the size of earth. Also the maximum mass for a white dwarf is about 1.4 solar masses.
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What white dwarf star has almost the mass of our Sun, but is only about four times as large as Earth? Packs a punch.
Are you sure about those numbers? That seems far too large. Sirius B has nearly the mass of the sun and is roughly the size of earth. Also the maximum mass for a white dwarf is about 1.4 solar masses.
My understanding was that a white dwarf was usually about the size of Earth. 4 times the size of the Earth? That means we're speaking the size of Neptune/Uranus. Are there really any white dwarfs that large?

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My understanding was that a white dwarf was usually about the size of Earth. 4 times the size of the Earth? That means we're speaking the size of Neptune/Uranus. Are there really any white dwarfs that large?

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That is a very good question. I don't think so, since anything over 1.4 solar mass will collapse into a neutron star. But that does bring up a related question: What is the maximum size of a white dwarf? (and I don't know the answer to that one)
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That is a very good question. I don't think so, since anything over 1.4 solar mass will collapse into a neutron star. But that does bring up a related question: What is the maximum size of a white dwarf? (and I don't know the answer to that one)
Also he used the word "only" implying that he thinks this is small ....

Do all white dwarfs have the same/similar density? If so then there would be a limit to the maximum size of a white dwarf.

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Here is a Wikipeda article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf
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It can be shown that the radius of a white dwarf can be determined from its mass. The more massive a white dwarf is, the smaller its radius will be (since a more massive star has a higher gravity and is therefore compressed to a smaller size).
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Those two statements prove that anything more than 0.6 solar masses (Melusine said ALMOST, so we can assume that it is between 0.6 and 1) would have a radius that is less than Earth's. So I guess that voids this question?

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Here is a Wikipeda article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf
Thanks for the link. This is an interesting thread. :P

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Hmmm...I suppose I can go onto the next question now (we all seem to be making up the rules as we go anyway).

What is the densest planet in our solar system?

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What is the core of the sun made off?
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What is the core of the sun made off?
Lots of hydrogen and helium. :P As much as I can remember, nuclear fusion goes on all the time burning hydrogen into helium, releasing energy in the form of photons and nutrinos.

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What is the core of the sun made off?
I think it is hydrogen. I remember reading that the sun is made out of 95% of hydrogen. Either that it's helium.

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What is the core of the sun made off?
I think it is hydrogen. I remember reading that the sun is made out of 95% of hydrogen. Either that it's helium.

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I'd have watched it but the only TV I had access to only supplied 5 channels (none of which were SBS ).

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What is the core of the sun made off?
Lots of hydrogen and helium. :P As much as I can remember, nuclear fusion goes on all the time burning hydrogen into helium, releasing energy in the form of photons and nutrinos.

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It's a metalic hydrogen mixture.....

I dunno...
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What is the core of the sun made off?
I think it is hydrogen. I remember reading that the sun is made out of 95% of hydrogen. Either that it's helium.

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What white dwarf star has almost the mass of our Sun, but is only about four times as large as Earth? Packs a punch.
Are you sure about those numbers? That seems far too large. Sirius B has nearly the mass of the sun and is roughly the size of earth. Also the maximum mass for a white dwarf is about 1.4 solar masses.
I'm rushing here now, but putting aside my "vague about 4x times..", (hey, it was late!)it says in my book that Sirius B has a diameter of 19,000 miles. I just looked up Google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ius+b+diameter, and my book isn't the only one who says that. I'm confused. They agree with you here http://www.siriusresearchgroup.com/a...igitaria.shtml, but I'm confused about the disparity in the diameter, and secondly, if my book is unreliable. Has it shrunk? Lol. I know I'm not reading 19,000 miles incorrectly--it's right in it's own special blurb. ???

I like that "sirius" means "scorching, searing."

Either way Van Rijn, however vague (I promise to be more specific), you are correct and you have a turn at a question (and now I'm glad I was vague/incorrect).
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Either way Van Rijn, however vague (I promise to be more specific), you are correct and you have a turn at a question (and now I'm glad I was vague/incorrect).
Well, If someone else asks a question instead I'm not gonna hold it against 'em.

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I'm rushing here now, but putting aside my "vague about 4x times..", (hey, it was late!)it says in my book that Sirius B has a diameter of 19,000 miles. I just looked up Google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ius+b+diameter, and my book isn't the only one who says that. I'm confused. They agree with you here http://www.siriusresearchgroup.com/a...igitaria.shtml, but I'm confused about the disparity in the diameter, and secondly, if my book is unreliable. Has it shrunk? Lol. I know I'm not reading 19,000 miles incorrectly--it's right in it's own special blurb. ???

I like that "sirius" means "scorching, searing."
I'm curious how old the book is? There were different estimates in the past and it is hard to get good direct measurements on white dwarfs. I remembered it being about the size of earth and it seems that has been confirmed:

http://www.universetoday.com/am/publ...rf_theory.html


Ok, this will be easy to google, so please hold off and give others a chance if you don't know the answer: What is the maximum mass of a neutron star?
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I'm rushing here now, but putting aside my "vague about 4x times..", (hey, it was late!)it says in my book that Sirius B has a diameter of 19,000 miles. I just looked up Google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ius+b+diameter, and my book isn't the only one who says that. I'm confused. They agree with you here http://www.siriusresearchgroup.com/a...igitaria.shtml, but I'm confused about the disparity in the diameter, and secondly, if my book is unreliable. Has it shrunk? Lol. I know I'm not reading 19,000 miles incorrectly--it's right in it's own special blurb. ???

I like that "sirius" means "scorching, searing."
I'm curious how old the book is? There were different estimates in the past and it is hard to get good direct measurements on white dwarfs. I remembered it being about the size of earth and it seems that has been confirmed:

http://www.universetoday.com/am/publ...rf_theory.html


Ok, this will be easy to google, so please hold off and give others a chance if you don't know the answer: What is the maximum mass of a neutron star?
I've got a feeling it's 3 solar masses when neutron degeneracy breaks down over the forces of gravity.

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