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Old 19-April-2006, 10:32 AM
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OK about that Frenchman and his curtain- I know a great guy who worked during & after the Revolution. Was it Delambre? Is the object (um...) URANUS?
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Old 19-April-2006, 11:59 AM
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French Revolution,
and that Frenchman, smile on Mars.
How high that curtain?
Johann Gottfried Galle?

The "smile on Mars" is crater Galle, also known as "Happy Face".

I suppose Leverrier is that Frenchman, who calculated the position of Neptune, which Galle then found.

As for the curtain, I have no idea. The only astronomical phenomenon that comes to mind is the aurora borealis, which I can't link to Galle. Nor can I fit in French Revolution.
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Old 19-April-2006, 09:00 PM
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Just keep on trying, Eroica (and everyone else). This is a very promising line of investigation.
I think one point of a haiku is that (for lack of syllables) one cannot always write everything one wants - things might become shortened, thus inviting associations.
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Old 20-April-2006, 07:50 AM
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... one point of a haiku is that (for lack of syllables) one cannot always write everything one wants ...
My favourite haiku:

Expressing oneself
In seventeen syllables
Is very diffic

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Old 20-April-2006, 02:00 PM
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OK about that Frenchman and his curtain- I know a great guy who worked during & after the Revolution. Was it Delambre? Is the object (um...) URANUS?
Ah, sorry mercury, I overlooked your anwer.
It's not Delambre/Uranus.

Eroica is right on two counts: The haiku is about Johann Gottfried Galle, and "that Frenchman" is indeed LeVerrier.

So I should say the cigar goes to Eroica anyway .
On the other hand, I would like the missing two components to be solved.

So should we just have Eroica post the next question, or are we sticking with this one for the time being?
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Old 20-April-2006, 02:46 PM
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Since I don't have a good question prepared yet, I say let's try and tease this one out.
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Old 20-April-2006, 03:22 PM
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Lovely - on you go, and nihil difficile volenti, as someone on this board uses to say
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Old 20-April-2006, 04:47 PM
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Has it something to do with Neptune's ring system?

There are rings called Liberté, Égalité and Fraternité.
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Old 20-April-2006, 10:06 PM
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Ezactly, man, ezactly!
One down, one to go ("how high that curtain?").
Congrats, Eroica!
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Old 21-April-2006, 10:13 AM
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Has it something to do with the fall of the Iron Curtain, which astrologers claimed was caused by a planetary aspect involving Neptune? (OK, that's a long shot, but I'm all out of ideas!)
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Old 21-April-2006, 10:33 AM
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No, it luckily doesn't.
You might want to pursue one of your earlier ideas further. As I said, it was extremely promising. The "how high that curtain" line refers directly to work done by Galle.
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Old 21-April-2006, 10:50 AM
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1851 ging Galle nach Breslau, wo er zunächst die Leitung der dortigen Sternwarte und ab 1856 eine Professur für Astronomie an der Universität Breslau übernahm. Hier war er über 45 Jahre lang tätig. In diesen Jahren setzte er sich mit der genauen Bahnbestimmung von Planeten auseinander und entwickelte Methoden zur Bestimmung der Höhe des Polarlichtes sowie der Bahn von Meteoren und fasste die Daten aller bis 1894 beobachteten Kometen in einem Werk zusammen. Darüber hinaus befasste er sich mit dem Magnetismus der Erde und der Klimatologie. Insgesamt veröffentlichter er über 200 Werke.
My German isn't good enough to translate this, but Polarlicht is the German for aurora borealis, and it seems to have something to do with calculating the altitude of the aurorae from an analysis of meteor trails?
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Old 21-April-2006, 11:02 AM
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[cheesy triumph march]
So Eroica ends this round of the Ultaimate Astronomy Quiz with a final brilliant suggestion on the work of J G Galle. One big round of applause to Eroica!

[/cheesy triumph march]

Indeed, Galle developed a method for measuring the altitude of the aurora borealis. I got my idea from that same Wikipedia article.

And now we are anxiously awaiting the next question.

[drumroll...]
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Old 21-April-2006, 11:10 AM
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Not a haiku, but a Clerihew (well, sort of).

O Father dear, O messenger of Rome
'neath starlit skies thou art at home.
Thy one-two-three with ABC
Have been replaced by AJC
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Old 21-April-2006, 07:18 PM
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This is ah, um... hermetic, shall we say?

As a question from a non-native speaker: Is there an idiomatic expression in the poem that I might have missed?

Hints would be greatly aprreciated.
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Old 22-April-2006, 11:07 AM
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As a question from a non-native speaker: Is there an idiomatic expression in the poem that I might have missed?
Here's a modern translation:

Dear Father, messenger of Rome,
Beneath starlit skies you are at home.
Your one-two-three with ABC
Have been replaced by AJC


I think it's still a bit early for hints...
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Old 22-April-2006, 12:10 PM
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Arneb, I just want to interject into this pas de deux going on here, and say, 1) Eroica is the definition of "bookish" incarnate, 2) German should be the the 2nd language I learn (the Olde English is popping right out at me), 3) I'm glad I withheld my guesses, for I was way off-track.

I'm too embarrassed to say what I thought the "curtain" was, but because of the French Revolution part, in order to "support" my way off-base guess, this...

"Indeed, Galle developed a method for measuring the altitude of the aurora borealis. I got my idea from that same Wikipedia article."

...became this to me. My "curtain" was measured in meters, lol.
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...soon after the French Revolution, the French Academy of Sciences chose the meridian definition over the pendulum definition because the force of gravity varies slightly over the surface of the earth, affecting the period of the pendulum
I think it's worth noting for French history. Don't think nobody else is watching this thread, lol. Ich passe auf. <---That's probably not right.


OK, carry on with Eroica's unanswered question:

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Not a haiku, but a Clerihew (well, sort of).

O Father dear, O messenger of Rome
'neath starlit skies thou art at home.
Thy one-two-three with ABC
Have been replaced by AJC


Here's a modern translation:

Dear Father, messenger of Rome,
Beneath starlit skies you are at home.
Your one-two-three with ABC
Have been replaced by AJC

I think it's still a bit early for hints...
I think it's too early for hints as well. Others need to jump in, and I know a certain female here who might know this one.
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Old 22-April-2006, 07:54 PM
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Pope?
No, but you're actually (possibly unwittingly) quite close (in an oblique sort of way)!
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Old 23-April-2006, 05:24 PM
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Here's a modern translation:

Dear Father, messenger of Rome,
Beneath starlit skies you are at home.
Your one-two-three with ABC
Have been replaced by AJC


I think it's still a bit early for hints...
Thanks for that, Eroica - It's not that I didn't understand the words. I was wondering if there was such a thing as "to have a 1-2-3" with a fixed meaning which is impenetrabele to someone who is not in on special cases of language use. Or 1-2-3 might be a "place holder" - something that is used tcarry across things like "you-know-what" or "I-don'-tell".

The "Olde English" sound and declination are not the problem. - It's beautiful, by the way.
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Old 24-April-2006, 09:49 AM
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