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Old 29-April-2006, 01:07 PM
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Aaah, back in the astronomy section. Feels right. Thanks, antoniseb, for heeding IMO's and Melusine's requests in the "About BAUT" section. It's a good move .

Ooops, new page: The current question can be found on the last page (here it is)!
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Coming to our next question, I wish everyone a happy time researching this Gentleman. Hint: It is not the webmaster of the site attached to this board, although they may seem to have a few things in common :

His brother said of him: "Even as a jung lad my brother would sit in his winter coat behind his telescope, by the open bedroom window. He would freeze for his beloved science, which our father had declared to be an art to win no bread."

He was the first to formulate the famous dough-and-raisin analogy for the expansion of the Universe: "As far a I'm concerned, imagine the expansion of space as the expansion of a dough laced with raisins. Every raisin represents a galaxy, and it is not the raisins that expand, it is the space between them that does. So the distances within a galaxy do not increase, only the space between them expands.

Of his profession, he said: He who has even once beheld the cosmos with a conscious mind, must become humble and see he is really but a speck of dust.

One of his colleagues said in a commemorative ceremony: "If you say Kopernikus deposed the Earth from its position at the center of the Universe, you can say of him that he doubled the extent of the researchable Universe".

(You might say this honour should go to someone else. Well, at least he was one of the first to be informed of it.)Another colleague said: "[His] discovery is the most important contribution in the last ten years towards our understanding of the properties of the Universe. It had an outright revolutionary effect on our concept of the composition of the nebulae, and I am convinced his discovery will prove to be an important tool for our study of the Universe.

About his science? Well, he was one of the few Germans to whom WWII represented a genuine opportunity. He used it to accomplish a then much sought after observational feat.

A hole in the wall is named after him.

He determined that not only is the Earth not at the center of the Universe, he determined that it is a very considerable distance to anything that could remotely be called a center.

Below are two photos of the scientist as a young man: Fifth from left in the first row on the primary school photo, second from left in the first row of the high-school photo.

No use to Google the quotations. I (re-)translated them from the German. Accuracy of wording should not be assumed.

I have a wonderful source for this riddle, which - honour where honour is due - will be announced after the solution is found.

It would be too simple if this were Walter Baade
http://www.phys-astro.sonoma.edu/brucemedalists/baade/
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Old 29-April-2006, 09:20 PM
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I am adraid this was too simple!
On to you, IMO !

Ah, and here is my source...
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I am adraid this was too simple!
On to you, IMO !

Ah, and here is my source...
It helps when you have met the subject. I may be a little while ... meanwhile folks should read about this wonderful man. The poor guy was restricted to Mt. Wilson during the war because of his nationality. Almost all the rest of the staff went off the mountain to defense work. The real question is ... who was that guy with the german accent who called in reports of submarine sightings off Long Beach? That usually forced a LA basin-wide blackout.
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Hello, Im a student in high school doing research on this subject i was wondering if anyone could help me?
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Welcome to the forum, baby boom.

I'd say starting with the link IMO prvoided (mine is also good but it's in German) would be a good start. You can then follow the links provided on that page; the obituaries in particular give excellent information on W. Baade's life.

Good luck with your project.
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One of Walter Baade's contributions depended in large measure on the work of a woman who was, herself, never allowed to follow up on her important discovery. This should be easy ...
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I have all the information i need im looking for someone to interview about the universe so i can finish my project.If anyone can direct me there i'll be thankful.I i could interview someone who is knowing about it on this site that will be good too.im on aol at 5:00 every night name=killU130.

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One of Walter Baade's contributions depended in large measure on the work of a woman who was, herself, never allowed to follow up on her important discovery. This should be easy ...
Henrietta Hill Swope?

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Henrietta Hill Swope?

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Not who I'm thinking of ... Swope worked in the right research area and did assist Baade but I think any limits on the range of her work were not externally imposed.
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Eleanor Margaret Burbidge?

She helped her Husband, Geoffrey Burbidge, William Fowler, and Fred Hoyle discover that heavy elements came from ligher ones.

Baade came in because was the first to discern between Population I and II stars. Their works supported each other's even though originally he didn't realize Pop II stars were older than I nor did he know that they differed in metalicity.
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Eleanor Margaret Burbidge?

She helped her Husband, Geoffrey Burbidge, William Fowler, and Fred Hoyle discover that heavy elements came from ligher ones.

Baade came in because was the first to discern between Population I and II stars. Their works supported each other's even though originally he didn't realize Pop II stars were older than I nor did he know that they differed in metalicity.
No ... the woman I am looking for made a significant discovery that predated and provided the foundation for a portion of Baade's significant work. My subject also established the primary calibration of the techniques essential to her work.
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are we talking 20 years earlier?



Williamena Fleming developed the star classification we have now, changed since then by Annie Jump Cannon who realized the H line strength was related to temperature



Both developed techniques.


I'm kinda guessing now
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Henrietta Leavitt, who discovered Cepheid variables. Wasn't it Baade who discovered that there were two classes of Cepheids, thus correcting the scale of the universe based on Leavitt's first class?
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Henrietta Leavitt, who discovered Cepheid variables. Wasn't it Baade who discovered that there were two classes of Cepheids, thus correcting the scale of the universe based on Leavitt's first class?
Indeed ... Leavitt discovered that Cepheid variables exhibit a Period-Luminosity relationship and provided a basic calibration. This allowed Cepheids to be used for distance measurements. Baade's observation of Cepheids in M31, and the relization that they came in two flavors recalibrated the relation. See for example http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank...es/baleav.html for more.
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Why do I keep answering these? Now I have to come up with a suitable question!

What am I?

I'm a DSO, part of a large complex of nebulosity.
I'm currently involved with an open cluster of stars.
My vital statistics are 20'x20', though my fainter outer parts increase this to almost 30'x30'.
Although I'm quite bright, I have three dark lanes, which have been classified by Burnham.
I contain a notable multiple star, which is one of my principal sources of illumination.
My nickname is commonly misunderstood, owing to a much later work of science fiction.
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I thought this might be a bit difficult, but IMO PM'ed me the correct answer within 8 minutes of my posting!
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I believe I know the answer to your question, assuming that the obvious reply is the correct one, and doesn't require a game of 20 questions.

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So why don't you solve?

Well, I might as well give it a shot: M20, the Trifid nebula?
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So why don't you solve?

Well, I might as well give it a shot: M20, the Trifid nebula?
Because IMO saw and answered the question before I did. I did leave a clue by mentioning 20 (M20) questions.

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