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Old 09-May-2006, 09:01 AM
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You're right about the amateur astronomer connection but the star you mentioned, while a clever guess, is not the correct one. My next clue is that the stellar type in question bears a resemblance, but not an exact one, to the title of a certain British science fiction program.

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Well, that's something. Am I right about Chandler, too?

Oh , by the way - in case the others wonder why of all people I proposed Chandler: Among the many distinguished "amateurs", I chose Chandler because he as well as the other two was into variables.
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That's the show but be careful.

Chandler was about a century too early as an answer.

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Has this turned into 20 questions?
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I fail to see any difference between the doling out of clues in this case and many of the other trivia questions in this thread.

This star has another distinction that is central to its nature.

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Dave, can we have a clue we can better sink our teeth into? If this person is 100 years later than Chandler, then that puts him or her into the 1980s. OK, I've done some searching, but what's the degree of "unusual" or "another distinction that is central to its nature"? Those are so vague as to be put on a wild goose chase, and frankly, I don't know about anyone else, but exasperation leads to another thread.

In my searches, I found this French guy who has a great site, however, and his 1001 Links are nicely organized. You might agree with his sentiments here, Dave:
http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/research.htm
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I fail to see any difference between the doling out of clues in this case and many of the other trivia questions in this thread.

This star has another distinction that is central to its nature.

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my question wasn't directed at you; it was a general question based on recent observations.


Sorry for the interruption; especially since I haven't participated much.
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It seems that some of the natives are getting restless.

To review: this unusual central star was discovered relatively recently by an amateur astronomer.

My next clue is that it's located in a prominent northern hemisphere summer constellation.

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Well here's another clue for you all,
The walrus was Paul.

Oops, that's from the wrong 1960s British pop idols.

Part of the title of a hit Rolling Stones song is a clue as to the almost unique nature of this star and, come to think of it, one of the words in the chorus is likewise related.

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... this unusual central star ...
Aha! It's a planetary nebula!

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Part of the title of a hit Rolling Stones song is a clue as to the almost unique nature of this star and, come to think of it, one of the words in the chorus is likewise related.
Any of these?

Little Red Rooster
Heart of Stone
Get Off Of My Cloud
Paint It Black
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I'll try.

V4334 Sgr (Sakurai's object), is a star in transition between Red Giant and White Dwarf. Didn't Dave tell us to be careful with the title of the show?). It was discovered in 1996.

Discoverer Yukio Sakurai is another amateur astronomer who is into observing variable stars while actually searching for comets.

This star, far into the Planetary nebula phase, somehow found enough helium in it's surroundings to ignite a helium to carbon/oxygen fusion event for a very short time, exploding in a helium flash.

This is an event of extremely short duration, thus,Sakurai's object is currently the only definite helium flash star on record. Other candidates exist, but their nature is not as certain as that of Sakurai's object.

As the Stones sang in Jumpin' Jack Flash:

But it's all right now, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash
It's a gas! Gas! Gas!

(Well, helium certainly is )

Here is more.
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Congratulations, Arneb, you've solved my cosmic conundrum. Rock on!

My next clue was going to be that this star is one of the relatively few deep-sky objects named after a person but I figured that someone would probably come up with the answer before I could pose it.

There's more on Sakurai's Object at http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2005/sakurai/ and http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/308/5719/231 and http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/0...tar/index.html

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Nice one!

The third link made an intersting statement...
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Some carbon grains found in a meteorite show isotope ratios identical to those found in Sakurai's Object, and we think they may have come from such an event. Our results suggest this source for cosmic carbon may be far more important than we suspected before."
A very interesting object, indeed. I wonder if it was a "hot" white dwarf (say 50,000K) which are blue, but now it is red.

Here is a site showing some images. Apparently, it hasn't been seen optically since 1998.

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O.K., here rocks.

This is where illicit lovers can be joined forever, even if their pursuers and wrathful husbands are always close.
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Hmmmm, no takers for 30 hrs?
Hints required?

This one is difficult to hint at without gving it away, I must say.
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Eros?

The craters of asteroid 433 Eros are named after lovers. I see (here) Pelleas and Melisande, but not Golaud.
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Old 14-May-2006, 06:44 PM
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Beautiful idea, Eroica, but not what I'm thinking of.
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O. K., maybe a hint is in order: You don't have to look further than the orbit of Neptune, that's guaranteed.
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Is it one of the moons of Neputne: Galatea (with the one-eye lover) or the nymphs of Naiad?
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I was thinking of Jupiter and his lover moons.
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Old 17-May-2006, 09:15 PM
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george, and crosscountry, I am thinking of something different. Illicit is important here; and wrathful husbands (not wives, as in Jupeter's case) are, too.
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