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Old 23-June-2005, 03:47 PM
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Question- where the heck is that experimental solar sail thing gone?
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Old 23-June-2005, 04:05 PM
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Uranus was not correctly identified as a Planet until march 1781 when the English astronomer William Herschel correctly identified it, he named it "Georgium Sidus" in honour of King George III. The Planet was not commonly known as Uranus until the mid 19th century when it was deemed more in keeping with the names already given to the other Planet's to re-name it Uranus at the suggestion of the German astronomer Johann Elert Bode 1747–1826.
So I'm going to change my earlier assumption and guess it was called Georgium for about 40-80 years. (Probably dependant on where you were at the time)

There doesn't seem to be a definite date but it looks as if it was also known a Herschel for a time as well
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Old 23-June-2005, 04:34 PM
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Uranus was not correctly identified as a Planet until march 1781 when the English astronomer William Herschel correctly identified it, he named it "Georgium Sidus" in honour of King George III. The Planet was not commonly known as Uranus until the mid 19th century when it was deemed more in keeping with the names already given to the other Planet's to re-name it Uranus at the suggestion of the German astronomer Johann Elert Bode 1747–1826.
So I'm going to change my earlier assumption and guess it was called Georgium for about 40-80 years. (Probably dependant on where you were at the time)

There doesn't seem to be a definite date but it looks as if it was also known a Herschel for a time as well
One source said 50 years. However, I suspect the departure of King George III in 1820 did not hurt the Uranus proponents. (the rascals :-? )
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Old 23-June-2005, 04:37 PM
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Question- where the heck is that experimental solar sail thing gone?
The Russian booster failed about 2 minutes after it's submarine launch. I suppose it went back to sea. :-?
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Herschel had originally intended to call it "George" in honour of the King, and for many years it was known as "Herschel". Astrologers associate the planet with sudden change and revolution, and say that Uranus had no influence prior to it's discovery (which is just as well, because earlier astrologers should have known about it if it did).
Conflicting sources. :P

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Ok - Easy history question

When was Spunik 1 launched, year and date - extra kudos for the launch time.
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Herschel had originally intended to call it "George" in honour of the King, and for many years it was known as "Herschel". Astrologers associate the planet with sudden change and revolution, and say that Uranus had no influence prior to it's discovery (which is just as well, because earlier astrologers should have known about it if it did).
Conflicting sources. :P

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The discoverer had the honor of christening the planet, and Herschel proposed Georgium Sidus (George's Star) in honor of King George III. However, the French mathematician who had helped to calculate the orbit proposed the name Herschel, while Johann Bode, editor of the Astronomical Yearbook for Berlin, suggested Uranus to keep the planet names tied to mythology. Georgium Sidus was quite unpopular outside of England, being named for George III, whom the American colonists had declared a tyrant, and against whom they had recently fought their war for independence.

The name Uranus was immediately accepted in Germany, and eventually found favor in France and the rest of the world. Yet for the next 60 years in England, Herschel's discovery was referred to as the Georgian Planet.
From ..... here
Ya'll's pedanticness, though honorable, is making this more interesting, albeit, somewhat less comical.

It was King George III that made Herschel Royal Astronomer. Herschel, supposedly, wanted to honor him for this act.

Herschel thought it was a comet originally. Olber realized the orbit was more planetary. So, in summary, Herschel called it a star, "Sidus", thinking it was a comet but it was really a planet (one which is half-way upside down )

A French mathematician helped with the orbit and promoted, apparently, the Herschel name.

It was the German which settled it. Another English, French and German affair. :P
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When was Spunik 1 launched, year and date - extra kudos for the launch time.
I know it was 1957, I think it was oktober, I have a hunch for the 21st, and I'll guess 10.23 AM CRT (Central Russian Time).
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Old 23-June-2005, 09:11 PM
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Ok - Easy history question

When was Spunik 1 launched, year and date - extra kudos for the launch time.
I know it was 1957, I think it was oktober, I have a hunch for the 21st, and I'll guess 10.23 AM CRT (Central Russian Time).
Right year, right month, wrong day
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Old 23-June-2005, 11:14 PM
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Ok - Easy history question

When was Spunik 1 launched, year and date - extra kudos for the launch time.
I know it was 1957, I think it was oktober, I have a hunch for the 21st, and I'll guess 10.23 AM CRT (Central Russian Time).
Right year, right month, wrong day
It was October 4th, 1957.

Since Fram's probably asleep, I'll ask:

Who said, "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." (hey, it's in an astronomy book!)

Edit, and it's not The Pretenders. :wink:
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Old 23-June-2005, 11:32 PM
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Correct Melusine

I really had to scratch around for the launch time though

ugcs.caltech.edu Sputnik1

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Launch Date/Time: 1957-10-04 at 19:12:00 UTC
Launch Vehicle: Modified SS-6 (Sapwood)
On-orbit dry mass: 83.60 kg
You can also hear Sputnik 1 at the AmSat website (scroll down the page to the second item)
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Old 23-June-2005, 11:32 PM
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Question: Name as many possible planets has you can (Like Qu****

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Old 24-June-2005, 12:33 AM
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Now, why are you laughing at me, Frog?? :P Oct 4th ---> Nov 3rd ---> Poor Laika (don't talk about it though, it depresses me even though I wasn't even alive).

Who remembers launch times of the Sputniks? I think Glom may have done one of these Q&A's in the Apollo Hoax forum; I have some great coffee-table books with lots of 1950's-1960's pictures and cultural info--a little girl wearing some beanie-like hat with "Sputnik Spotter" and a radar propeller on top while she's looking through some toyish telescope, lol. I actually know more about that era than astronomy- -but I'd like to change that. 8)
Is CC Irish? Wilde had some great epigrams. Sorry, carry on...

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Question: Name as many possible planets has you can (Like Qu****
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This is a pretty ambiguous question....the person who names the most wins?

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, George (oops, Uranus :P) Neptune, Pluto, Sedna, Quaoar (spelt wrong )....that's it from me.

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This is a pretty ambiguous question....the person who names the most wins?

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, George (oops, Uranus :P) Neptune, Pluto, Sedna, Quaoar (spelt wrong )....that's it from me.

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I'm confused...he wants names to planetoids and asteroids?

Quaoar and Sedna

Does Ceres and Pallas count? I looked this up in my books, and they don't count these under planets (my Covington book doesn't either), but under asteroids and comet chapters. Wikipedia discusses "the definition of planet" here:

"Even with the Pluto and lunar controversies excluded, there is no agreed consensus on what a strict definition of a planet should be. The criteria for most definitions generally include that it must orbit a star, be big, and yet not big enough to produce nuclear fusion in its core. However, none of these criteria are as clear-cut as they seem."

C-Munch, CC has gone AWOL for now, so I would just ask a question.
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I agree, the question is too vague. It doesn't even specify whether we should be limited to just the Solar System.

Otherwise my list starts with HD 147513-b
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Old 24-June-2005, 12:40 PM
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But you are all only listing the planets. Can you name them, like the question was?

Umm, time for a new question, I think. Anyone?
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But you are all only listing the planets. Can you name them, like the question was?

Umm, time for a new question, I think. Anyone?
Alright, How About this One:

What was The Planet Uranus', Original Name?

And, No One Say, "Urectum," OK ...
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But you are all only listing the planets.