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If it seems clear there is no definitive complete answer, then we will respect your judgement. If Jedi's answer is close enough, I would encourage your acceptance of it, but let us know what you understood was the answer for it is an interesting question.
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They look much like those given by me, and I think they refer to the same originals. What is transcribed as "h" in your source and as "ch" in mine is probably the same sound. If my guess of it is correct it refers to a sound in modern Chinese which doesn't exist in English, has only sort of a relative (or two) in German and similar in Russian, and a somewhat closer relative in Finnish.
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How sure of you of that answer, though? This sounds like a Chinese version of Mr. Wilson on Tool Time - hidey ho neighbor. I vote you give it to Jedi as his names at least sound like real Chinese names. Also, I would bet an ice cream sundae that it was actually in 2137 BC and not 2136, contrary to what you read in other web sites. Jedi was first with the correct date and this is the only objective element of your question. [I have checked my new Starry Night software and it shows a solar eclipse on that very day in 2137, and, on 2136 the Moon was not even close to the Sun. I have discovered that other solar eclipses are shown as being one year off confirming my view that other web sites are in error when they show the date as one year earlier because of the fact there was no year 0 AD/BC.]
[BTW, I am having trouble knowning when to capitalize Sun and Moon, and when not to. Any advice? ]
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Have you no respect for the departed, or poisoned perhaps, astronomers?
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I'm not sure what Chinese names from more than 4000 years ago are supposed to sound like. The "ch" in the German transcript is -unlike American transcripts- a fricative sound, related to "h". But when it comes to person's names from an ancient Chinese scribble which are transcribed into latin letters (usually on a phonetic basis, which in this case was probably taken from (which?) one of the modern Chinese dialects to pronounce corresponding glyphs) there is not much of "correct spelling" left. We talk about "Hi & Ho" versus "Chi & Cho", even "Ki & Ko" could be correct (The "i" is probably as in "hit" and doesn't really rhyme with "spy"). If one suggestion would be "Chop & Suey" - yes, this would indicate a difference.
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Is that your question?
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Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh. "The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly. |