Darn it I just noticed this with a few minutes left on my "h1XXX..." WU . 13 hours of CPU time down the drain hehe.

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Latest on the h1>H2 SNAFU
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The CPU time for science was wasted. But nice gesture to show the E@H team appreciates the time people donate.

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Thanks again, Klaus. This may ease things, gopher, but I don't know exactly how it will give credit for aborted WUs. No matter, not a big issue for me, even if no "extra credit" is given.

And a couple posts down in the thread Klaus links:
And not an easy mistake to be brutally honest about. We are lucky in both our projects to have such quality individuals in charge. Me, I cover up my mistakes like my cats in their litterbox whenever I can get away with it. Not a bad analogy, on several fronts.

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Nice, all systems are nominal again. =D> Go Team BABB

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Excellent, Minbari, excellent!

Somewhat mixed feelings as we pass my original team Spread Fiefox into 31st place; also now 21st in RAC.=D>=D>

Impending doom on the personal credit front, but I will try to be brave. :wink: 8)

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Wounderful news, though it isn't really about the credits is it

All these new members are really helping push team BABB's Avg credts up. A few more members and/or hosts then we be looking at passing more on the ladder that are in our sights

Who would of ever thought that the public could of become this useful in conducting such important scientific research as this.

Totaly cool. Its great to feel one can truley contribute in a great way (regardless of occupation), also its excellent how these projects can bring together communities of similar minded people.

Great stuff.

=D>

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Joined the team for Orbit@Home...

Still busy'er than such-n-such and will attempt a distrbuted install with BoincView after I get in our new Celeron 2.0 GHz PCs... 8)

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OVER 70 MEMBERS STRONG! =D>

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Einstein@Home

Congratulations to our newest members with 50,000 credits: Minbari, azazul, and, rapidly being left in the dust by the above, yours truly.=D>=D>

And a very warm welcome to our 76th member, Udo, who joins with over 19,000 in prior credit and immediately becomes BABB team leader in RAC with over 844.=D>

Edit: And a very warm welcome also to our 77th member, KHarvey16, who joins with 1500 prior credits.=D>[/edit]

We now have a total of 109 computers registered to the team. Congratulations to all team members whose landmarks I've forgotten to post.

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Incidentally, I just realized that the later versions of BOINCmanager also allow remote control, although much less flexibly than BOINCview. You switch between viewing your local and remote boxes by using "select computer" from the file menu.#-oops: You first have to create the remote_hosts.cfg file on the remote box, just as with BV.

Biggest disadvantage to the BOINCmanager remote control is that you see only one computer at a time, and must switch manually between them, rather than all boxes in one view, like BOINCview. If there is interest, I'll try to update the ancient post about BV with the BOINCmanager method.

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As we are still slowly rising on RAC (recent average credit), and some of the teams ahead of us are dropping (due to the summer?), it looks like we may enter the top 20 (the first page!) on RAC pretty soon. I'm preparing a celebration already :wink:

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My contributions have diminished a bit due to a newly developed Battlefield 2 addiction. ops:

I hear that is a pretty computer intensive game .

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I've also had to reduce mine because I've "upgraded" my system. I got some high-performance memory, but it is so power-thirsty, I can't overclock my system anymore with my stock 400 W power supply. I'm looking to get a new power supply, but that may be a while.

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Fram, Top 20 RAC, Indeed! =D> =D>
Congratulations to the whole team for this achievement.

[Edit]: Temporarily, one hopes, we've slipped back to #21, by 44 points to Poland.ops: The competition for these top 20 spots is fierce, see this from #18 Team Canada.[/edit]

And a warm welcome to member #78, Stagefright.

Thanks also to Archer17 for bumping the BAAB blurb he posted over at the Cafe Einstein.

Sympathy to Laser Jock on the power supply. And to Wolverine...well...Battlefield 2 also advances the cause of Scientific Progress? :wink: Or displaces aggression, also a good thing?

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For those who don't read BABBling, here is a post about the team's future web page.

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I've noticed another oddity on one of my machines. It is claiming ~74 credits/WU instead of ~96 credits/WU. The time it takes to complete a WU seems about the same. It seems to have started with the new S4 data set. My other machine did not seem to change much; 93/WU instead of 91/WU. Has anyone else noticed anything?

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Is this the machine you recently declocked? Did BM redo the benchmarks when you restarted? If not, you might try that; I know when I changed OCing a while back it had to run renchmarks before crunching again.

Other than that L J, I can't think of anything; your results for computer does look strange with the sudden shift to lower credit.

Both my boxes show no appreciable change before and after S4. Anyone else know something?

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no change on my machine

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No, I haven't ever changed the clock on this machine. I also upgraded to BOINC 4.45 from 4.19 at about the same time; would that have anything to do with it?

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I didn't change my computer, BOINC, or Einstien@home at all. With the new dataset my claimed credit rose from ~65-70 to 70-75. Average CPU time is still the same.

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There often is a change in time and/or credit with a change in version. I think I recall something like this for 4.19>>4.45, with some posts over at Cruncher's Corner saying the credit is less with 4.4x &amp; several people sticking with 4.19 because of it. May even be the reason 4.19 is still supported? I've been on 4.45 for a long enough time that I've forgotten what happened for me. I did look for those old posts over at CC, but can't find a relevant one ATM.

Best way to check, of course would be revert back to 4.19 and see. (For those who don't know: changing to and fro between 4.19 requires uninstalling first; sometimes I've found going backwards in version even above 4.19 requires a 2nd repair install to insure the correct .exes get installed.)

Also, requested credit is modulated somewhat by granted credit, but still, a difference of about ~20 is pretty large. If version change is the cause, only you can decide whether the 4.45 gui is worth the credit hit. The science done is the same of course: just as many WU per unit time get crunched.

I have a feeling orbit@home will require a newer version, since 4.4x has a much better scheduler, but since you won't be doing o@h initially, I don't see any reason not to continue with 4.19. They are testing a new einstein application, but it is just 4.80 (up from 4.79) and AFAIK, does not require anything more than BOINC 4.19.

Hope this helps?

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going from 4.19 to 4.25
Changed benchmarks, so therefore changed claimed credit.

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This is what I was struggling to find and say in previous post, Laser Jock. As always Klaus does good research. Thanks.

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We have finally gotten into the top 20 in RAC.

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Run the benchmark on the same computer 10 times in a row and you will see just how inaccurate the benchmark is, in that it can vary as much as 40%!

Erradic results like this certantly does not lend any credence to this being a benchmark.

I've had the Opteron read in at anything between 1400 and 5300 on the benchmark, bizzar behaviour.

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Well that did it. I switched back to 4.19 and my most recent WU claimed 94.69 credits. I like the "No New Work" option in 4.45, but I'm going to stay with 4.19 for a while. I tried switching my Athlon 64 to 4.45 around the same time and found that it refused to download WUs, so it's already back at 4.19.

I went ahead and ordered an awesome power supply that will most definitely solve my power problems. I love the modular cable design so that the only cables that are cluttering up my case are the ones in use.

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Laser Jock,

Glad this works for you. My Antec TruePower also has the cable saving feature; it's very nice. Of course, it's a mere 480.

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We are at #19 in RAC just ATM, flip-flopping with Greece United.

We're really getting in amongst the big boys now, for example #10 CoBPA - University of North Dakota. Here's the list of computers for the best of their 3 active members, a person called Lab Computers. We'll never catch this guy.

But it's still awesome for the BABB team to have done so well! to us!

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Ken I have a question. You know how "Special: OffTopic" has a custom name in the team listing? Could we do that or is it only the Special team that can do that?

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Ah. I see the average credit has gone up again. Just as I was about to celebrate reaching the point where my total credit was worth a whole day's work.

It's somehow depressing that I've been on the team this long, and I still haven't achieved that...

There is a space on the team form for Team name, HTML version. It says:

"You may include HTML formatting, link, and image tags. If you don't know HTML, just leave this box blank."

I left it blank for that very reason.

Also, if you look at S:OT's entries on 3rd party stats sites, you see this, for example. The HTML from their name corrupts their entry. Possibly that's because they put the image in the Team Name, Text Version space, but I suspect that since no other team does it, it's a trade off between an HTML listing on the official site and a garbled one on 3rd party sites.

I don't honestly know which is more influential in recruiting, certainly that Top Twenty official team page is the first place many new people would look. I'd be glad to try putting a valid html name in one or both of the name slots to see what happens.

How do others feel about using an image? Maybe a poll in Scotsons Shack? Here's the image used by , if you haven't seen it.

I'm going to take it that there's a rueful smilie in there somewhere mid. Otherwise, we can ask Evan or Udo to turn off their machines for a few days so your individual TC can catch up with team RAC? 8)

Seriously, 8200+ credits is a bunch, and I for one value every member of this team, [swelling violins] especially ones who've stuck with the project for a long time. I mean, I'm the main person guilty of offering "Congratulations for your hard work in reaching xx,xxx credits," but really we all do about the same amount of "work" to crunch: Download an app, a few clicks, see if it overheats or conflicts with other programs, fume if the server goes down, then basically let it run. Everyone's contribution is really the same, and every WU counts. [cymbals crash]

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