When will Saturn and Mars be equally fiery?

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What do you mean with "fiery"?

Harald

PS: When you post questions, can you please formulate in a way that one can understand the question and the reason for asking without having to ask back? Thanks!

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I think he means as bright as each other.

Without doing hours of checking, I'll say that Saturn was pretty bright a few months back. It doesn't look as bright now because it's only visible shortly after sunset. Mars is hot now. When at a fashion show try not to compare the models. Each is equally as 'fiery' but at this time only one can be on the runway.

Quickly punching through the years in Skyglobe shows Saturn and Mars (EDIT: and us) away from the sun together on 21 August 2016. Should make for one great sight. Mars will be kind of far away.

Somebody with more time should answer though.

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Your are right jt-3d, I mean as bright as each other, and further more bright then you see them normally.

So there is two points here.

First Point, both Mars and Saturn should be more bright than they are now.

Second Point, this more brightness should be the case for both of them at the same time.

The Question: Which year will this be?

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I think it's pretty clear from the context that what you're trying to figure out is whether a prophecy will be fulfilled in a certain year, and you're trying to get somebody to give you the year. The problem is like this:

The brightness of both Mars and Saturn will vary in periods, i.e. they will alternately get brighter, dimmer, brighter dimmer, etc., depending, I think, mostly on how close they are to the earth. So whatever you do figure out, the answer will not be "in the year XXXX" but rather "every 52.8 years or something along those lines. I have no idea of the specifics, however.

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I have an odd feeling that Username 24 has got 23+ more usernames- one for each board and asks a whole lotta detached questions...

or something...

I dunno about others but I don't mind answering but I'm woundering about why...

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Saturn is 9AU from the Sun, which means that from Earth, it varies between 8AU and 10AU--its brightness doesn't vary that much. It gets maybe a half magnitude or so brighter than it is now, but it doesn't get much dimmer either. Mars gets close to the Earth every 2.2 years (November this year), but gets very close every 15/17 years (end of August 2003).

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And Saturn is brighter than Mars except when Mars is near opposition, so they will be of equal brightness twice every 2.2 years.

However, one of those times was within the last month, as Mars has been getting brighter. So, it was not when Mars was brighter than it is now.

However in the first part of January (after Mars reaches -2 in November), Mars will dim again to Saturn's brightness, which will be about -0.2, almost as bright as Saturn gets (it gets up to about -0.5 at other times I think). They'll also be only 80 degrees apart--so, visible at the same time.

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I'm not understanding this. Are you saying that right now, Mars and Saturn "should" look brighter than they do?

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion?

No, he followed it with "The Question: Which year will this be?"

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Why I am asking is because Nostradamus said so, that when Saturn and Mars are equally fiery there you will see a comet in the sky.

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Well you could have just asked us that.

We would have said that it does not matter how bright any of the planets are., and that nostriadarmas is wrong.

We see comets all the time- in fact there is one in virgo right now....

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Why did you also say "both Mars and Saturn should be more bright than they are now"? Did Nostradamus say something else about that?

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username24, is quatrain 67 on this page the one you're referring to?

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Hmmm...El Nino...brushfires...drought...lotza hot air...drive-bys...turf wars... :-k

...sounds like Southern California to me... :-s

Can we get a live report here from Ackshun Nuze? [-(

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