I'm curious what those other clips have to do with this one. Are you attempting to prove the objects in the first clip are UFO's by showing other clips containing objects you can't explain?

Personally it seems like you ran out of ammunition concerning the first clip and you're now trying to shift attention.

Well if you guys are going to be in denial about the strange behavior of these objects... then there's no point in me pressing it any further... so i'm going to move on to other clips.

Now, how about explaining these two new clips to me?

Could bee... they could also be lightning bolts in a thunderstorm down there in the atmosphere. The frequency and distribution makes me think that likely. Again, date, location and time of the clip would establish that, as might a soundtrack.

No idea, that clip won't load for me.

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Yes there is a thunder storm going on in that clip... but that isn't what im referring too. I'm talking about the intelligently controlled crafts flying around the thunder clouds.

As to the other clip not loading... you arn't lying about that are you? lol cause thats the most interesting clip of em all.

The only person I see in denial here is you my friend.

I'm sure everyone on this board would be absolutely thrilled to hear your proof for declaring these objects UFO's. However, if the extent of that proof is "they look funny to me", do not expect many to pay you any mind.

Have you checked the link I gave you in my first reply. There are links to some STS-48 UFO stuff pages.
And I still don't see any intelligently controlled crafts flying around. If these are intelligently controlled crafts, then most debris particles in bright light I've seen in space movies must be attributed "intelligently controlled crafts".

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That last clip doesn't load for me either.

And again, what is your proof that these objects are intelligently controlled?

KHarvey16, please tell me what this object is, stop stalling.

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=U...Shuttle-NASA-F

As I said that clip does not load for me. Regardless, my ability, or lack thereof, to explain what the object is says nothing about its possibility of being intelligently controlled.

Denial? That's when you deny explainations... We've given explainations. It looks like the denial is the other way around.

The two new clips? Definitely a thunderstorm below. Definitely camera movement (the horizon appears eventually). The other objects have no frame of reference, so it could be just objects floating away from the camera in the same orbit.

Yeah, we deny that there is anything strange going on! You've made a few suggestions of strange behaviour, all of which we have countered for so far with alternative, more prosaic explanations. If you were looking for confirmation of UFO theories here, I suggest before proceeding you take a read of this post here: Advice for Against-The-Mainstream supporters.

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OK, try this clip... please fellas... tell me what these two objects are in the last two segments of this clip..

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=u...n-la-luna-nasa

I think it's rather obvious the object moves in synch with the camera, so it's most likely someting on the window the video is being shot from.

LOL!!! come on you can do better than that!!

So you're saying the object does not move in synch with the camera movement? If so I might suggest a pair of new glasses.

Again; no frame of reference, so no way of knowing distance.

What's the plan here... Lets bombard everyone until someone makes an error? Then we can concentrate on that, and disreguard everything else?

I'm still waiting for the footage of a camera lens smudge UFO. 8)

How large is this delay? I just watched the Discovery crew arriving on the ISS and was talking to a friend at KSC. He saw the crew arrive within a second of when I saw them. I attribute that to the broadcast thru RealPlayer.

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Yes, thats exactly what i'm saying. Those two objects are moving well out of synch with the camera. You're just telling straight up lies now man. What do ya work for the government?? LOL

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=u...n-la-luna-nasa

The camera is not moving anywhere near in synch with those two objects... now it's very clear.. you are in denial.

Is this really the best evidence you have for UFO's, TheyComeOften? The middle clip is to me quite obviously a water droplet on the window in front of the hand-held camera, the final clip is very blurry but could easily be the same view from a closer-in vantage point (thereby blurring the drop).

If you're just going to snow us with clips all day for us to refute, I'm going to get bored very soon.

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As the shot comes in the camera is clearly moving to the left as the object is moving right. Likewise, it moves right as the object moves left. The second portion is even easier to see as it moves right as the camera clearly moves left.

WATER DROPLET ON THE WINDOW???? LMFAO!!!

One guy says is moves in synch with camera... other guy says it's a water droplet.

WTF AM I IN? THE TWILIGHT ZONE??