Is this new planet the only planet outside the planet disc?
I read the it is 45 degrees from the planet disc, why is this the case.


so in real life do we see the solar system like this


.................................................. ...................................new planetO
(from my drawing you see that the new planet is 45 degrees upward)
sunO......marsO......earthO....jupitorO..mercuryO. .saturnO...niptuneO....plutoO.....


What do you think of my above drawing, kind of cool, ha

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No, Pluto and the other newfound "Planets" are outside too.

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Man, I must be more tired than I thought. #-o

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the only fault i can find with your drawing is the order of the planets around the Jupiter/Mercury binary system...

You do realize that Pluto is inclined 17 degrees from the ecliptic, right?

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Another reason to demote Pluto to a non-planet.

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I have to agree there, I have long thought that Pluto should not be a planet. Its size says enough, it is smaller than many moons in our solar system. When you take into consideration that it is not very close to the plane of the rest of the planets, then it seems obvious to me that it should not be a planet.

Yesterday, I ate with my parents and happened to mention that I thought Pluto should be demoted. They reacted as many others have, saying that it always has been a planet. To me that is no reason to leave it as a planet. If you live much of your life calling a floor a ceiling, when you find out evidence that you have called it the wrong thing all your life, do you continue to call it by the wrong name? I wouldn't.

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Azuzal, Maybe we could convince people that a planet is a plane-t meaning it should be in the same plane as all the rest. I'm not sure if the t should mean anything special. Maybe something off of the plane could be called a planoff. Maybe there could be an eccentricity limit as well.

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So what do you call Indians, now?

RBG

I noticed that too... It should be something like:

Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto ...

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RBG,

They are called Indians. Unless you meant the folks who were native to the Americas, who are now called ... Native Americans.

And how come nobody has pointed out that username24's picture implied a very unlikey, if not impossible conjunction of all 9 (or 8 or 10) planets?

I thought this guy was banned. Has anyone contacted Mr. Plait?

Not to mention fixing NIPtune.

Or indigenous peoples. I don't think any americans are native as anthropologists seem almost positive that humans evolved in Africa. I've heard that pre-columbian inhabitants of north america like to be called by the name of their nation: Cherokee, Sauk, Chippewa, Navajo, etc. just like the south and meso american pre-columbian inhabitants are called Inca, Aztec, etc. Some anthropologists think that even these inhabitants were not the first transplants but that another immigration occured previously that died out in some or all areas.

It might also be noted that the people we currently call Indians may not have been the first people to inhabit India.

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That depends on how PC you want to be. The new Smithsonian museum is the Museum of the American Indian, in part because the various tribes couldn't agree on a better name.

Reminds me of a deaf person who once told me "I am Deaf. I am not hearing imparied, i and not audiologically challenged; I am Deaf. just because somebody how can hear perfectly thinks that the term Deaf is somehow offensive doesn't make it so."


Now back to the topic. We have 8 planets, and we have known about them for 150 years or so. My thought about why Pluto and this new planet, which we can call Planet X for lack of a better name , are so far off the ecliptic is because they are so far away. I thought the tendency to orbit near the ecliptic was due to the tidal bulge of the Sun. The farther away you get, the less important this becomes, so that by the time you get past Neptune, it its influence is trivial. Maybe I'm completely wrong about this. If so, I'm sure I will be told so very soon.

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I personally call them native americans.

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Do you really think they appreciate being named after a Spaniard?

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Italian, actually--Amerigo Vespucci isn't exactly a Spanish name.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Correct. While his voyages were sponsored by Spain, Vespucci (like Columbus) was very much an Italian.

Besides, how is it better for them to be named after Indians?