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Old 18-August-2005, 01:01 PM
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I just got word that John Bahcall died Tuesday night. In the words of one colleague who was part of the WFPC2 instrument team "If Lyman Spitzer was the father of HST, then John was its big brother". He is perhaps best noted for his decades-long pursuit of the answer to the solar-neutrino puzzle, as well as tremendous service to the HST project starting back when it was the LST (Large Space Telescope); his contributions using this instrument included studies of quasar host galaxies and gravitational lensing.
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The Bachall & Davis neutrino detection experiment using chlorine is one of my favorite stories. Sad to see the loss.
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Institute of Advanced Studies, Princeton announcement.

The passing of a great; one of my heroes.
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A very sad loss to astronomy indeed.
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Here's the NY Times obituary.
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Sad news indeed. I did not know he'd been ill.

I had both good and not-so-good encounters with Dr. Bahcall over the years. I always found him to be completely knowledgeable in any subject I asked him about.

Sorry to hear about this.
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A great loss of a great man. At age 70 he probably had many more productive years ahead of him.

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Bahcall never lost his enthusiasm for what he studied. In a February 2003 interview with The Star-Ledger of Newark, he described the universe as "unattractive, implausible, crazy, but beautiful."
So long and thanks for all the science!
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What is the Bahcall paper (or other published work) that has had the most lasting impression on you?

For me, it is Does the fine-structure constant vary with cosmological epoch?. The method is simple, elegant, and very robust ... the question it addresses, while not the hottest of hot astrophysics topics, is nonetheless important (and if the result were other than null, the implications enormous).
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What is the Bahcall paper (or other published work) that has had the most lasting impression on you?
I think this paper raised some points early on in the dark matter discussion that are just as important today (20 years later!).
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I think this paper raised some points early on in the dark matter discussion that are just as important today (20 years later!).
What would those be, BTW? The abstract doesn't seem to be of much help.
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I think this paper raised some points early on in the dark matter discussion that are just as important today (20 years later!).
What would those be, BTW? The abstract doesn't seem to be of much help.
Here are some of the points taken directly from the article:

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The most striking feature of rotation curves is that there are no striking features. There is no overall change in the observed rotation curves that marks the transition between the inner region, in which the visible material dominates the gravitational field, and the so-called halo region which is filled with unseen material or missing mass.
which leads to this point in the conclusion:

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(1) Featureless rotation curves require fine tuning if the inner galactic material (stars and gas) is physically different from the halo (dark mass).
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(2) There are regularities in the mass models (eqs. [1]-[3]) that suggest a close relation beween the visible and invisible matter.
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(3) The missing matter in the disk is dissipational, like the visible material.
These conclusions were made with a small sample of 8 galaxies with well studied rotation curves. Research since then has confirmed these conclusions. It is related to the point I was making here . If dark matter is collisionless non-baryonic CDM then fine tuning is required to explain the observed rotation curves. We can see from Bahcall&Casertano that this has been an issue from the very beginning who also stated in the paper:

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Figure 1 shows that at least one parameter of a two-component mass model must be finely tuned in order to reproduce the observed flatness of the rotation curve. The simplest interpretation of Figure 1 may be that there is only one type of galactic mass.
By "one type" they mean entirely baryonic as opposed to the currently preferred model of a baryonic disk with a non-baryonic halo.
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