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Old 24-August-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default SWIFT sees new born black holes

This just in from Scientists Watch Baby Black Hole Get to Work Fast, a NASA feature story released Aug 18:

Baby black holes apparently come into the world kicking and screaming, not unlike humans. And they're fussy eaters, too. Scientists using NASA's Swift satellite say they have found newborn black holes, just seconds old, in a confused state of existence, sloppily gorging on material falling into them while somehow propelling other material away at great speeds.

There will be a paper appearing in the Sept 9 issue of the journal Science.

SWIFT is a two year mission to study gamma ray bursts. It has three main instruments; an XRAY telescope, an ultraviolet and visible light telescope, and a "Burst Detector". The idea is that the burst detect identifies a gamma ray burst, and then swings the satellite around to bring the telescopes to bear. SWIFT has already been useful in bringing new data for astronomers. Here are some more extracts:

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These black holes are born in massive star explosions. An initial blast obliterates the star. Yet the chaotic black hole activity appears to re-energize the explosion again and again over the course of several minutes. This is a dramatically different view of star death, one that entails multiple explosive outbursts and not just a single bang, as previously thought.

"Stars are exploding two, three and sometimes four times in the first minutes following the initial explosion," said Prof. David Burrows of Penn State, lead author on a paper appearing online today on Science Express and in the September 9 issue of Science. "First comes a blast of gamma rays followed by intense pulses of X-rays. The energies involved are much greater than anyone expected."

Scientists have seen this phenomenon in nearly half of the longer gamma-ray bursts detected by Swift so far. These gamma-ray bursts, the most powerful explosions known, are harbingers of a type of massive star explosion called a hypernova, bigger than a supernova. With the Swift satellite, scientists are finally able to see gamma-ray bursts within minutes after the trigger, instead of hours or days, and are now privy to newborn black hole activity.

Until this latest Swift discovery, scientists had assumed a simple scenario of a single explosion followed by a graceful afterglow of the dying embers. ...
There is also a website where you can find out about the observations from day to day. SWIFT is picking up these massive explosions at the rate of one every couple of days; and other observatories also make occasional contributions. The web site is http://grb.sonoma.edu/. There is a scrolling lists of bursts; click to get more detail of what was observed. This is an amazing site, able to bring cutting edge big project astronomy right into your computer screen as it happens.

Easy background information at Gamma Ray Bursts: Introduction to a Mystery, at the NASA "Imagine the Universe" site. This is a NASA educational resource intended for kids, 14 and up. It's high quality, with lots of scope to press deeper. I frankly use it as a resource to help get a handle on the subject.

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Old 24-August-2005, 05:03 PM
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This is an amazing site, able to bring cutting edge big project astronomy right into your computer screen as it happens.
I think I might know someone who helped with that site.
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Swift satellite say they have found newborn black holes, just seconds old, in a confused state of existence, sloppily gorging on material falling into them while somehow propelling other material away at great speeds.[/i]
I would be fascinated to know the mechanism that allows it to be choosy about what it attracts.

Edit: That sounded kinda snarky which wasn't my intention, I would truely be intersted to know what the scoop is here.
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I would be fascinated to know the mechanism that allows it to be choosy about what it attracts.
Same here! It might be resulting from wild turbulence, with some material end up in the hole and other material flung out into space; or with the infalling material interacting in the big explosions and ejecting some material. I'm hoping the science paper will have more in the way of models for what could be going on.

PS. ToSeek... who was involved in the grb site?

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who was involved in the grb site?
You may have heard of him.
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