Thanks for the link, ToSeek. Akos, has done a remarkable job. If more people would use his app, it would be more like triple the speed. But then, it might also put too much strain on the E@H servers.
Congratulations to Nereid for surpassing the 200,000 cobblestone mark.

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...and an also very interesting sentence from that article:

That gives me hope to get more work (from S5?) in june...
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Congratulations to Michael Brehmer and Wolverine for passing the 100,000 cobblestone mark in Einstein@Home

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Klaus, I echo the sentiments & also belatedly thank ToSeek for the post about akosf.

(As I write, Einstein@Home has been down for some hours, even the website.)
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This seems like a great idea, but read on and beware!!

The only currently operative BOINC Account Manager (the inevitable nested acronym: BAM) is the one maintained by the BOINCstats site. This is just front end code, AFAIK, and the real meat of BAM is the communication between it, the projects, and your computer, which is all code written by Berkeley BOINC. So BOINCstats is not to blame for its problems, which I'm slowly getting to :

The idea is you create a special BAM account at BOINCstats, give it your Cross Project ID, check off the projects you want BAM to manage and all further attaching, resource changes, etc, across all your projects are in future handled at the one site.

First, you must update all your computers to the latest version of BOINC, 5.4.9. Then, you must insure that all your projects' passwords are the same, and choose exactly the same password for your BAM account - because the BAM password cannot be changed, and must match all the project ones.

Then you "attach" the Account Manager, much like you do for any project.

Now the trouble begins: when you look at the BAM website for your new toy, you don't expect to see all your projects and stats listed immediately, do you, because this kind of thing needs to be updated and synced first, right?

So you press the "Update" button on your BAM account page.

But if things have not been set up perfectly right at this point, in BAM's almighty judgment, BAM will then proceed to instantly send messages to your machines and detach you from all your projects, without a word of warning, or any opportunity for confirmation.

To say the least, this is a massive bug, and so I heartily recommend you don't use the current version of any BAM!

Oh, I had been warned by a post in the BOINCstats forum that this could happen, but it was so hard to believe! It sure seemed like "Update" was the obvious thing to do after setting it up; and I can still not see what I did wrong in the setup.

Perhaps it was the column that says "attach by default?" Yeah, it would have been good to check "Yes" in this column!! Except that there is no way to enter anything there: the field is not editable, and is blank "by default!"

Fortunately, I had only attached one box to the BAM, and so I only lost the 5 running WUs for my projects on that box; and even more fortunately, it was not the machine running CPDN, or I would have lost 35 days of work on a precious coupled climate model.

So please don't use this piece of suckage: BAM is a bust!! The underlying BOINC 5.4.9 seems fine and stable, but offers no real change to previous versions, other than the account manager.

All IMNSHO & YMMV...

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After the gloom of the last post, good news:

There is at last a BOINC statistics extension for Firefox!

You just enter your CPID and/or individual project account numbers and Total Credit and/or RAC appears in the status line.

If you have multiple projects, it doesn't auto-cycle through them, but you can choose which to display, with or without icon, by a right click.

A left click takes you to your stats on the project's page, and if the status bar is displaying your BOINC total, a left click goes directly to your stats on the fabulous BOINC combined stats and graphs page mentioned earlier in this thread, by Wolverine, IIRC.

Simple and elegant.

The creator of the extension, tekywzrd, calls his site BOINC Stats; not to be confused with Willy's long-time site BOINCstats.

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Einstein@home has been down for several days to to AC failure. There's a thread at the BOINC message board but little info available on when it will be back up.

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Thx for the tip. I think i will wait a bit with using the BAM until a bug fix is included in a later version. That wasn't the reason i wanted to reply to this thread though. I don't want to minimize your post Ken Vogt, but just as a little side note, can anyone tell me what is currently wrong with Einstein@Home? Is it an expected downtime or has something gone wrong and do we know anything about when it will be back online? Einstein@Home is my favorite of the projects (haven't tried Stardust@Home yet though, i have some high expectations to that one, but for now they are out of work).

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And of course i posted while another poster told me everything there is no know. OK, nevermind with my thread then, back to the original topic.

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A warm welcome to the thread, Sporally!

And aside from being about BOINC, no post is off-topic in this thread, or is seen as an interruption: any subject is welcome, anytime!

The BOINC forum thread Klaus referenced mentioned E@H's air conditioners being out: E@H does have huge server rooms and it is very hot now in the US Midwest, so these being out is a non-trivial thing.

That thread also mentioned using a large cache so that you have plenty of WUs to run through when events of this nature occur. There are mixed feelings about this, some consider it impolite ("hoarding"): If you normally have a big stock of WUs waiting to run, you are perforce delaying the confirmation of credit for two other people, possibly for all the 25 or so WUs in a master file.

Also, cache size is a per-venue setting, so if you have several projects running on a single box, you must use a small enough cache size so that BOINC doesn't go into panic mode and think you will not be able to complete them all by deadline. It will then restrict on its own how many WUs you get, and maybe not for the projects you would prefer it to.

The solutions Udo and Laser Jock arrived at above, though for somewhat different problems, is still a good way to keep your machine busy: attach to more than one project, give the new ones a smallish share, and use moderate cache sizes. There's a bunch of great projects out there well worth crunching for.

But I understand that Einstein@Home is the first love here, and I too hope it comes back up real soon.

(And once it does, a good practice might be to not over-press the Update button: their server load will be huge, and clearing the UL/DL backlog will only be slowed by manual requests, AFAIK.)

Sorry for preaching...

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My WUs have begun uploading!!!

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Thx for your welcome speech, and great that it is back and running. I think it should be possible to selected a amount of WU you want to have at a time. Choosing between let's say 1-3 or 1-5 WU. This way the science will go on while servers are down - unfortunately, i think we will end up loosing finished work as some ppl will get fed up with the delays, and the work done by them will exceed the work done by ppl when the servers are down.

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Hello Sporally,
as mentioned somwhere up in this thread, I have an Server in my office which is attached to E@H but due to 'office firewall policies' has no connection to the E@H Servers.
I copy the BOINC and Application data and transfer the WUs from home. That explains why some of my computers seem to be the same one (currently my notebook with Pentium M 1.6GHz processor).

To feed this server with enough WUs, I set the 'Connect to network about every ' to 10 days. Today I succeeded to download the 77th (big) WU (32 per day). I will upload them tomorrow (sunday) and they will be finished within 45h...

I barely survived the 3 day outage at E@H... only 2 WUs timed out... and my server was crunching for CPDN...

...still waiting for E@H S5 data.... (only 20 days left on S4)...
Udo

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Congratulations to Sarah MacIntyre, for exceeding 200,000 in credits!

There is one in the 300k club (Udo), three in the 200k club, and nine in the 100k club.

The next milestone would seem to be Udo's transition to the 400k club, followed by Klausnh's to the 100k club.

It would seem that several BAUT team members are warming their homes and offices with their computers, oh, and also contributing (inefficiently) to Einstein@Home ... is there any way we can encourage them to switch to the more efficient akosf app(s)?

If you consider all of the projects, Udo is already well past 400k. Also, Ken is very close to 300k.
Azazul had mentioned earlier that he was going to send out an e-mail to the entire team; I don't know if he ever did.

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There is an interesting new thread from Bernd saying

1.) I put a new Windows App (4.62) for testing on the Beta Test Page.
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This is not as fast as Akos' Apps with architecture-specific optimizations, but as this will probably be the official Windows App we start the next run with (if this test turns out to be successful), I strongly encourage you to test it beforehand.

2.) ...in the next run, starting in about two weeks...

3.) So in the next run, ... we will grant a rather fixed credit for each Task done

Those who don't want to use an 'inofficial' application (from akosf) may be interested in testing the 'official' beta test applications...

greetings from germany...
Udo

P.S. Today I uploaded another 600h CPU time in CPDN which gave the BAUTs team score a boost...

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Quite right.

I 'fess up ... I am unabashed, heavily biassed in favour of Einstein@Home, to the point where I have nothing else running on the computers I can influence*.Well, I don't seem to have got one ... (but I may have overlooked it).

*OK, I do have a 'backup' BOINC app, for when any computer runs out of E@H WUs to process, but it's a math one, not any that are counted by the BAUT team.

Udo,

That's very good information, the best news being we get to start on S5 soon! Bad news is that everyone will (automatically) get the new official app, and the akosf apps will likely not work for the new WUs, and so the relative advantage of those people and teams (i.e., us) now heavily using the akosf apps will disappear. Oh well, nice while it lasted?

(Conspiracy theory): And now that akosf is employed by E@H, how likely is it we will see an optimized app for S5? 8)

So probably there would be little gain for the team in a mass email now. OTOH, if the claim in that thread that the new official app will itself be 3-4 times faster, it would open up E@H for many with slower computers.

And there are a lot of folks who have become discouraged for one reason or another and stopped crunching E@H, a faster app generating more results and possibly more relative credit might inspire some to rejoin. That and the chance to crunch S5!

So since it is pretty likely that any such people would no longer be reading this thread, a mass mailing after S5 starts and we can judge the performance of the new app sounds like a solid idea. IMO, of course.
Nereid,

Which project is that of which you speak?

azazul has permission to start BAUT teams for any math-/science-related BOINC project; a couple even have only one member ATM. So anyone can post here or PM him about creating a team for a project. As long as you are getting credit for a BOINC project, it might as well be for the BAUT team... The only restriction is the project must be officially at beta stage, which as far is BOINC is concerned is about equivalent to release stage for some other software I could name: if an app has gone through alpha, it's probably done thousands of cycles on hundreds of enthusiasts' machines; so it's been pretty well tested, IMO.

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