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I'm interested in this test for real expansion, but I'm unsure how the surface brightness falls off as (1+z)^4.
Most of the literature I've come across deals with the practical problems associated with measuring the actual surface brightness, but not how the above relationship is derived. Can someone explain (for an interested layperson) how this relationship is derived or a reference to a site that deals with the basics of the Tolman test.
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Thanks Ken G.
Here's a snip from: "THE TOLMAN SURFACE BRIGHTNESS TEST FOR THE REALITY OF THE EXPANSION. I." by Sandage and Lubin "Tolman (1930, 1934) derived the remarkable result that, in an expanding universe with any arbitrary geometry, the surface brightness of a set of "standard" (identical) objects will decrease by (1 + z)4. One factor of (1 + z) comes from the decrease in the energy of each photon due to the redshift. The second factor comes from the decrease in the number flux per unit time. Two additional factors of (1 + z) come from the apparent increase of area due to aberration." The part I don't understand is the two additional factors from the apparent increase in area due to aberration. You cover the redshift and time dilation contributions, but have you included (in your own words) the effect due to aberration and what do they mean by this?
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I think aberration here is another way to say that the flux is spread over a larger area, due to the expansion, i.e., the inverse-square effect in another form. The latter way takes the point of view of the photons, the former, the point of view of the observer. I think you'd really only call it aberration if it was a bound system doing the emitting, so that it doesn't take part in the expansion and ends up looking much larger than it actually is. If it looks larger, it has to be less bright to compensate, for a fixed total energy flux.
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Here's a paper on the subject that shows that the universe is not expanding.
http://photoman.bizland.com/bbnh/lernerpaper4.pdf |
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"If it looks larger, it has to be less bright to compensate, for a fixed total energy flux."
Now this is where I'm confused. I understand that the surface brightness remains conserved in Euclidean cosmology and falls off as (1+z) in a non-expanding universe with a redshift mechanism, but still can't understand why any emitter would actually look larger- be it an expanding universe or not. Thanks Ken "Here's a paper on the subject that shows that the universe is not expanding" Thanks John. Only just had an opportunity to look at the paper, but it appears to be both relevant and interesting.
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photon number. One power of 1+z is from the loss in energy, and the other is from the mapping of the energy into wider wavelength bins. Quote:
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I'd be curious to know what current tests are showing relative to which is correct, the Big Bang model or the static model. Since Spaceman Spiff indicates a discontinuity at z > 1.5 or so, I would be most interested in results at lower z's than that.
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Also, your second reference -section on "Angular Diameter Distance" helped me understand. I found it a difficult concept to grasp that the 'space' between an emitter and receiver is still expanding while the photon is traveling between them.
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0210/0210394.pdf
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