Check out this link. It is amazing. How many errors/ falsifications can you find?


http://pub32.bravenet.com/forum/show...29018393&cpv=1

Seems they can't agree what the speed of light is, or what units what want to use.

As for that person that complained about a 4d universe, he/she must not pay much attention to the modern world.
We have the three planes of space, and time. So, we got a 4d universe.

It was funny to read the person that said the planets are too big to weigh!


I seriously doubt the Quram (or however its spelled) says a thing about the speed of light.

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This reminds me of the other thread a while back where it was claimed that Islam held that the moon once split in two and then reformed as a sign. The guy who runs the local fish and chip shop claimed it was true and that Neil Arstrong found evidence of this and became a Muslim.

A claim that has been officially denied by those around Neil Armstrong.

As to the direct claims that the Koran predicted relativity, I would like to see book chapter and verse, rather than vague wand waving as that appears to be.

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Ahhh, but there are many mathematical errors and basics physics mistakes. Treat it like one of those puzzles : "There are x mistakes, can you find them?"

Other than the obvious...

Which I agree with, I don't know what you are "looking" for. Were you expecting us to go through that forum and point out "every" mistake...??

Count me out...I have better things to do with my time...

Absolutely

If I make a claim, like for instance the Old Testament makes a reference to the hydrological cycle long before we in the west worked it out, I will straight up say it is in Amos 5:8. (Incidentally before we veer off on that tangent, someone at church said that that is not a good example of Bible scientific preknowledge as people of that time were more clerverer than we give them credit, and they already knew about the hydrological cycle). I just raise this as an example, that if someone makes a claim, they should provide all the evidence right up fron instead of expecting us to go hunting for it.

I have better things to do with my time as well.

BTW I once heard someone say that Genesis 1 referenced Quantum Mechanics, but I think the guy made the comment to show how rediculous some of these claims can be.

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So what you're saying is that if I where to say that the Bible forbids christmas trees(it does), then I should show where that is written (Jeremiah 10:2-8)

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If you say that a certain text makes a claim you should give full citation, so we can check the text for ourselves to see if that is the case.

In the cases I gave, the assertions made, because the citations were known, they could be discussed and these cases dismissed. In the link given by the OP, no such citations were given.

The one on Christmas trees is interesting, but in accordance with forum rules we can not discuss it any further.

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Quite.

If anyone would like to pursue the OP taking special note of our guidelines concerning religion, feel free. Further tangents will result in this being locked.

So how far does the moon travel in a year, really? Relative to the Earth is easy enough: diameter of orbit * pi * 12, or even better, wikipedia shows the orbital circumference directly as 2,413,402 km and a synodic period of 29.530 588 days, which comes to about 29.85 million km.

But how about relative to the sun? Since the moon's orbit doesn't cross itself and is always concave toward the sun, I suppose that adding the Earth's circumference to that would be a good first approximation.

What's a better figure for that?

For those of you who wanted proof that these things were stated in the Quran.

The verse:

[I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]! (Qur'an, 86:1-3)

The word "Tariq," name of the Sura 86, comes from the root "tarq," whose basic meaning is that of striking hard enough to produce a sound, or hitting.
Bearing in mind the word's possible meaning as "beating," "striking hard," our attention may be being drawn in this to an important scientific fact. ( Sura means chapter )

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Ok, given BAUT rules I don't want to get into a big discussion of religious text, but I'm honestly curious what scientific fact you believe is represented there. Frankly, I'm at a complete loss.

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Me too - I cannot see anything that comes near stating what that website states, or anything else in science but possibly some of the most basic idesa.

What is it that you see in that specific quote other than that there is supposedly some important (nonexistant as far as I can tell) fact?

Any religion that tries (is tried) to prove itself by scientific data forgets that the basis of religion is in belief and faith. The basis of Science is in supported evidence. So never these two will meet. This is also forgotten by creationists.

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