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First suspected in 1993, now confirmed: There's about 2.3 Jupiter mass planet orbiting the orange giant star Pollux (Beta Geminorum). The planet orbits the star at a distance of 1.64 AU in a circular orbit.
It is the first known planet around a first magnitude star. See the Extrasolar Planets Encyclopaedia entry.
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HD 62509 = Beta Geminorum = Pollux
Astronomers don't usually use proper names of the star, often not even Bayer designations.
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Well that's pretty darn cool. Question for the experts:
Does being of Jupiter mass mean that it has to be a gas giant? Are there reasons a Jupiter size planet could not be like Earth?
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Yes. When a protoplanet is massive enough, hydrogen and helium cannot escape from it. It is nearly impossible that the planet doesn't accrete surrounding hydrogen and helium into it. Even the "hot Jupiters" that orbit very close their stars have thick hydrogen atmospheres. If gas giants can form from disk instabilities, there may be planets that don't even have solid cores of heavier elements.
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That is awesome.
Gives me a nice nostalgic thrill thinking of all those sci-fi stories and novels set around prominent bright stars. I never expected to see something like this, at least not so soon.
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Following the links I just discovered that Arcturus is also known as Alpha Boo.
I think if I get a puppy I'm going to call it Beta Boo.
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Possible, but it would have to be a truly mind-bending coincidence. Unlike tide-locked rotation, there is no process that would force a moon into such configuration. And even by some miracle it did happen, it would not last very long. A very small perturbation would make the moon's orbit slightly longer or shorter -- and instead of spending all its time in the shadow, it would spend months or years in the light followed by months or years in the shadow.
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Well, our sun and moon appear nearly the same size--and we have found planets which orbit in different directions--so it might not be such a stretch that an object might be shielded--be in a perpetual eclipse--and perhaps have life--otherwise it would be too hot for a life-giving Jovian moon of the more usual sort described elsewhere here, correct?
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I see the home page shows 194 exoplanets. 200 is coming fast. :clap"
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A hypothetical moon of Pollux b could not stay permanently in its shadow. Pollux b (a.k.a. HD 62509 b) has an orbital period of 589 days around Pollux;
in order to remain in the shadow of this planet, a moon would need to have an orbital period of 589 days around HD 62509 b also. But this would make the orbit of the moon so wide that it would be outside the planet's Hill sphere; the moon would not be in a stable orbit but would wander away to become a planet in its own right. Alternately the moon could orbit the Lagrange 2 point, behind the planet- but in this case the moon would not be close enough to remain in shadow all the time, and anyway the l2 point isn't stable in the long term.
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