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Old 06-September-2006, 07:55 PM
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An ultramassive white dwarf in Eridanus may have escaped from the Pleiades star cluster, say astronomers in England. If so, the lost Pleiad was once a bright blue star that outshone all the current cluster members. The discovery implies that the white dwarf evolved from a single star, contradicting theories that say ultramassive white dwarfs form only from the merger of two lesser white dwarfs.
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Doesn't a star turn into a white dwarf after it creates a planetary nebula? where's the planetary nebula if this happened recently?
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Title: On the origin of the ultramassive white dwarf GD50
Authors: P. D. Dobbie (1), R. Napiwotzki (2), N. Lodieu (1), M. R. Burleigh (1), M. A. Barstow (1), R. F. Jameson (1) ((1) University of Leicester, UK, (2) University of Hertfordshire, UK)

We argue on the basis of astrometric and spectroscopic data that the ultramassive white dwarf GD50 is associated with the star formation event that created the Pleiades and is possibly a former member of this cluster. Its cooling age (~60Myrs) is consistent with it having evolved essentially as a single star from a progenitor with a mass M>6Msun so we find no need to invoke a white dwarf-white dwarf binary merger scenario to account for its existence. This result may represent the first direct observational evidence that single star evolution can produce white dwarfs with M>1.1Msun, as predicted by some stellar evolutionary theories. On the basis of its tangential velocity we also provisionally identify the ultramassive (M~1.2Msun) white dwarf PG0136+251 as being related to the Pleiades. These findings may help to alleviate the difficulties in reconciling the observed number of hot nearby ultramassive white dwarfs with the smaller number predicted by binary evolution models under the assumption that they are the products of white dwarf mergers.

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The `lost Pleiad' legend came about to explain why only six are easily visible to the unaided eye. This sister is variously said to be Electra, who veiled her face at the burning of Troy, appearing to mortals afterwards only as a comet; or Merope, who was shamed for marrying a mortal; or Celæno, who was struck by a thunderbolt. Missing Pleiad myths also appear in other cultures, prompting Burnham to speculate stellar variability (Pleione?) as a physical basis. It is difficult to know if the modern naming pays attention to any of this. Celæno is the faintest at present, but the "star" Asterope is actually two stars, each of which is fainter than Celæno if considered separately.
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Doesn't a star turn into a white dwarf after it creates a planetary nebula? where's the planetary nebula if this happened recently?
Planetary nebulae last only a few tens of thousands of years. According to the article, the white dwarf is 60 million years old--so the planetary nebula that arose when it was born is long gone.
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Planetary nebulae last only a few tens of thousands of years. According to the article, the white dwarf is 60 million years old--so the planetary nebula that arose when it was born is long gone.
Then this star could not be the "lost sister" of legend.

I was confused by the subject line.
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It is a joke. According to the mythology, there were seven Pleiads, one of which became mortal and wasn't placed into the sky. Now they're find a star that may have been a part of the cluster, so it is the lost "seventh sister".

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The diameter of a white dwarf or a neutron star depends on how massive it is. More massive the object is, the smaller is its diameter. Sirius B, which is a relatively massive white dwarf, has a diameter about that of the Earth. According to Ken Croswell's webpage, the diameter of GD 50 is only 54% of Earth's diameter!
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Side question:

1) If the Pleaides are the seven sisters.
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2) Only six stars are easily visible to the naked eye.
and
3) Two of those stars are their father (Atlas) and mother (Pleione).

Where are the other three sisters?
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Most people count 6 or 9 Pleides without optical aid. If you can see 9, then the 2 parents and 7 sisters add up. Otherwise...who knows?

Does "seven-sisters" form an illiteration in Greek?
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