Chatroom
 

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum > Space and Astronomy > Astronomy
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 04:50 PM
Mr. Milton Banana's Avatar
Mr. Milton Banana Mr. Milton Banana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Over There
Posts: 351
Default Giant Methane Lake Found On Titan

Cassini has found a giant lake, with island, at Titan's north pole. You can view the image and read the article here.

Amazing stuff!!
__________________
"Yes...! To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance...was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it??"
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 09:40 PM
VPCCD's Avatar
VPCCD VPCCD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Earth...I think
Posts: 203
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Milton Banana View Post
Cassini has found a giant lake, with island, at Titan's north pole. You can view the image and read the article here.

Amazing stuff!!
Thanks that just made my day! That has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever saw.
__________________
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit."
Stephen Hawking

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 09:44 PM
George's Avatar
George George is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio, Tx.
Posts: 7,212
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPCCD View Post
That has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever saw.
Yes, very cool. Does the Polar Bear Club know about this yet?

Regardless, great news.
__________________
Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 10:03 PM
Glutomoto's Avatar
Glutomoto Glutomoto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Edwardsville, Illinois
Posts: 154
Default

I wonder how long it will be before Brad Guth starts seeing bridges airports and other signs of intelligent life
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 10:38 PM
Mr. Milton Banana's Avatar
Mr. Milton Banana Mr. Milton Banana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Over There
Posts: 351
Default

I wonder how big the waves get, and if there are whitecaps....
__________________
"Yes...! To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance...was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it??"
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 10:39 PM
VPCCD's Avatar
VPCCD VPCCD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Earth...I think
Posts: 203
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Milton Banana View Post
I wonder how big the waves get, and if there are whitecaps....
I don't see anyone surfing on titan any time soon!
__________________
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit."
Stephen Hawking

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 10:51 PM
Mr. Milton Banana's Avatar
Mr. Milton Banana Mr. Milton Banana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Over There
Posts: 351
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPCCD View Post
Thanks that just made my day! That has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever saw.

Well, at -290 degrees Fahrenheit, it would be.
__________________
"Yes...! To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance...was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it??"
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 10:54 PM
Mr. Milton Banana's Avatar
Mr. Milton Banana Mr. Milton Banana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Over There
Posts: 351
Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by VPCCD View Post
I don't see anyone surfing on titan any time soon!
It's too bad we didn't have some inkling of this before, otherwise we could have landed Hyugens in this lake.

It does open the doors for further probes. Would there be low/high tides, due to Saturn's gravity and that of the other moons?
__________________
"Yes...! To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance...was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it??"
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 11:11 PM
Kaptain K's Avatar
Kaptain K Kaptain K is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Elgin, Tx
Posts: 7,568
Default

Quote:
It's too bad we didn't have some inkling of this before, otherwise we could have landed Hyugens in this lake.
...and we would have gotten no data from the surface, since the probe would have sunk like a rock!
__________________
Any day you wake up on "the right side of the dirt" is a good day.

T. Anderson
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 11:12 PM
Doodler's Avatar
Doodler Doodler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 9,383
Send a message via AIM to Doodler Send a message via MSN to Doodler
Default

Well...truth be told, I'm kinda happy it landed where it did. Designed to float and able to float aren't necessarily the same thing. It would be just our luck that turbulent lake surface would have screwed with the transmissions from the lander, and with the headaches we already had with one datachannel being off, it was just as well we didn't run into other complications.
__________________
I'm not completely heartless, the doctor who removed it told me he'd never be able to get it all.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 28-February-2007, 11:14 PM
Ronald Brak Ronald Brak is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,234
Default

Quote:
It's too bad we didn't have some inkling of this before, otherwise we could have landed Hyugens in this lake.
It's a giant lake of liquid natural gas. A sample return mission could land in it and use it as rocket fuel. It would need to bring its own oxident however.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-March-2007, 11:47 PM
novaderrik novaderrik is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ashby, MN, USA
Posts: 2,327
Default

even if Huygens couldn't actually survive landing on the surface of this lake, just think of the cool pictures on the way down..
__________________
"blacker than the blackest black... times infinity."- Nathan Explosion
The.. Best.. Thread..Ever...
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 03:38 AM
Mr. Milton Banana's Avatar
Mr. Milton Banana Mr. Milton Banana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Over There
Posts: 351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doodler View Post
Well...truth be told, I'm kinda happy it landed where it did. Designed to float and able to float aren't necessarily the same thing. It would be just our luck that turbulent lake surface would have screwed with the transmissions from the lander, and with the headaches we already had with one datachannel being off, it was just as well we didn't run into other complications.
Well, even off-shore would have been nice, although I wonder how much you could really have seen of the lake.

Seriously-I wonder about whitecaps. I wish there was some way we could tell. Obviously, the northern latitudes are very stormy, given that huge cloud over Titan's north pole.
__________________
"Yes...! To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance...was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it??"
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 02:43 PM
Saluki's Avatar
Saluki Saluki is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Springfield, Illinois, USA
Posts: 744
Send a message via Yahoo to Saluki
Default

That link does not seem to be working for me. Does anyone have an alternate link?
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 02:54 PM
Saluki's Avatar
Saluki Saluki is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Springfield, Illinois, USA
Posts: 744
Send a message via Yahoo to Saluki
Default

Did some looking. Is this the image we are discussing?

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedi...m?imageID=2502
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 03:34 PM
Ilya's Avatar
Ilya Ilya is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Boston
Posts: 2,944
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain K View Post
...and we would have gotten no data from the surface, since the probe would have sunk like a rock!
It wouldn't have sunk. Huygens was designed to float in liquid methane, for just such eventuality.
__________________
Fiction has to be plausible. Reality is under no such constraint.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 03:54 PM
Disinfo Agent Disinfo Agent is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,246
Cool

Fantastic news! I wonder what they'll call them.

UT piece.
__________________
"All your bias are belong to us." Ara Pacis
"A witty saying proves nothing." Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 04:10 PM
Squashed Squashed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,031
Default Tire Tracks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glutomoto View Post
I wonder how long it will be before Brad Guth starts seeing bridges airports and other signs of intelligent life
I see a set of tire tracks running right through the center of that image: picture
__________________
°
°
My invisible elf ??? Why he is made of dark matter and lives off of dark energy !!!
°
°
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 04:52 PM
Doodler's Avatar
Doodler Doodler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 9,383
Send a message via AIM to Doodler Send a message via MSN to Doodler
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Milton Banana View Post
Well, even off-shore would have been nice, although I wonder how much you could really have seen of the lake.
From the ground, not much, but the shots coming in would have been jaw dropping.
__________________
I'm not completely heartless, the doctor who removed it told me he'd never be able to get it all.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 02-March-2007, 05:30 PM
Kaptain K's Avatar
Kaptain K Kaptain K is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Elgin, Tx
Posts: 7,568
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilya View Post
It wouldn't have sunk. Huygens was designed to float in liquid methane, for just such eventuality.
I did not know that! Not the first time my memory has failed me.
__________________
Any day you wake up on "the right side of the dirt" is a good day.

T. Anderson
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 06-March-2007, 04:15 AM
Glutomoto's Avatar
Glutomoto Glutomoto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Edwardsville, Illinois
Posts: 154